"New Wave" and the 1980s - one-hit wonders and biggest hits

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Postby NothingFails » Tue May 08, 2018 5:35 pm

While I know this is UK-based, The Cars literally are in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame and had multiple successful albums and hits in the US to the extent that their number of albums sold and hit singles there should nullify one hit wonder status elsewhere. Kinda like how Robbie Williams and Status Quo are nobodies in America but European success carries them.

Hell, the album with Drive alone had four top 20 singles in the US as well as the first "Video Of The Year" winner at the VMA's with You Might Think. Heartbeat City isn't even their highest selling album, their debut from 1978 and their 1985 Greatest Hits albums are. They are definitely a well-established band with a lot of hits under their belt. They were pretty constantly successful between 1978-1986 and only dropped off with "Door To Door" in 1987, and even that had a top 20 single with "You Are The Girl". Easily one of the bigger bands of the early MTV era and a group that somewhat bridged new wave and classic rock. Four albums that sold at least 4x in the US is definitely a force.

Saying they're one hit wonders because Drive's their only big hit there is like me saying that Spandau Ballet are one hit wonders because True's the only song they're known for here.
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Postby Passing_Strang » Tue May 08, 2018 5:36 pm

55. THE NEVER ENDING STORY by Limahl

Written by: Giorgio Moroder/Keith Forsey
Produced by: Giorgio Moroder
Country of origin: UK
Release date: August 1984

Australia
10 December 1984 - #6 - 26 weeks

Austria
Ö3-Hitparade: 14 October 1984 - #1 (6) - 12 weeks
Der Musikmarkt: 15 October 1984 - #2 - 16 weeks

Canada
RPM: 18 May 1985 - #7 - 20 weeks
The Record: ? 1985 - #17 - 11 weeks

Denmark
20 October 1984 - #1 (2) - 13 weeks

Finland
September 1984 - #24 - 2 months

France
2 March 1985 - #7 - 21 weeks

(West) Germany
3 September 1984 - #2 - 22 weeks

Iceland
Þróttheimar: 9 November 1984 - #6 - 2 weeks

Ireland
11 November 1984 - #4 - 4 weeks

Israel
#2

Italy
TV Sorrisi e Canzoni: 11 November 1984 - #2 - 23 weeks
Musica e Dischi: 24 November 1984 - #2 - 21 weeks
RAI Hit Parade: 23 December 1984 - #2 - 13 weeks

Japan
Oricon: 21 November 1984 - #5 - ?
Oricon International: #1 (5)
Music Labo: 18 March 1985 - #5 - 8 weeks

The Netherlands
Nationale Hitparade: 29 September 1984 - #28 - 5 weeks
De Nederlandse Top 40: 29 September 1984 - #34 - 4 weeks

New Zealand
26 May 1985 - #28 - 6 weeks

Norway
21 November 1984 - #1 (8) - 12 weeks

Poland
15 September 1984 - #1 (1) - 28 weeks

Portugal
17 November 1984 - #3 - 17 weeks

South Africa
11 January 1985 - #2 - 17 weeks

Spain
15 December 1984 - #1 (1) - 25 weeks

Sweden
Trackslistan: 29 September 1984 - #2 - 10 weeks
Topplistan: 26 October 1984 - #1 (4) - 16 weeks

Switzerland
23 September 1984 - #3 - 14 weeks

UK
Music Week: 13 October 1984 - #4 - 14 weeks
Melody Maker: 27 October 1984 - #5 - 11 weeks
New Musical Express: 10 November 1984 - #4 - 9 weeks

USA
Billboard: 23 March 1985 - #17 - 19 weeks
Cash Box: 23 Marсh 1985 - #22 - 19 weeks
Radio & Records: 19 April 1985 - #21 - 9 weeks

Zimbabwe
26 January 1985 - #2 - 15 weeks
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Postby Gambo » Thu May 10, 2018 2:34 pm

Corny, but a surefire catchy tune that you'll always find yourself humming after hearing it.

I didn't know this was co-written with Keith Forsey - he co-wrote 'Don't You Forget About Me' by Simple Minds among other big hits.
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Postby Robbie » Thu May 10, 2018 3:32 pm

'Never Ending Story' features uncredited vocals by Beth Anderson. She had previously worked as backing vocalist with Keith Forsey (and Giorgio Moroder) on the 'Flashdance... What A Feeling' spin-off album by Irene Cara. London-born Forsey had worked alongside Moroder since the very early 1970s and was the drummer on Moroder's productions including all of the work he did with Donna Summer. Notably the only non-electronic instrument on 'I Feel Love' by Donna Summer is the drums (played by Forsey) as Moroder was unable to perfect an electronic equivalent that he was happy with.
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Postby Passing_Strang » Thu May 10, 2018 8:31 pm

Forsey is a really notable figure for all the 1980s, doing some work that still endures among the symbols of the decade. I admire him not for his soundtrack work, say, but for producing Icehouse's "Primitive Man", one of my best-loved albums of the 1980s - stellar work both in songwriting department and soundwise, recommend to everyone :D

Limahl's a strange case - the guy seemed tailor-made to be a big star, but was on a downward spiral by 1986, only three years since he started in a big way! Only recently I came across an interview with him that highlighted his conflicts with his record company and it became clear what happened. Another early 1980s pop star Nick Heyward comes to mind. Still, they at least had several years - whereas by the 1990s even this was over as soon as it started (Chesney Hawkes, anyone?).

Now, speaking of flash-in-the-pan carriers, here's another huge European hit - and the story of a female lead has to be read as an example of how not to launch a young performer. Or was it a particularly severe case of the general bad luck in, well, almost everything she tried her hand at? As for a song - perfect example of how the early 1980s synth sound became incorporated in the mainstream and used to score at least European-wide smashes. Next, it features a Jackson brother that sang on Rockwell's hit :D And lastly, it's a great catchy song!
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Postby Passing_Strang » Thu May 10, 2018 8:32 pm

56. WHEN THE RAIN BEGINS TO FALL by Jermaine Jackson & Pia Zadora

Written by: Peggy March/Michael Bradley/Steve Wittmack
Produced by: Jack White
Country of origin: USA
Release date: October 1984

Australia
1 April 1985 - #63 - 9 weeks

Austria
O3-Hitparade: 2 December 1984 - #4 - 12 weeks
Der Musikmarkt: 15 December 1984 - #2 - 14 weeks

Belgium
Belgie Super 30: 20 October 1984 - #1 (5) - 15 weeks
BRT Top 30: 3 November 1984 - #1 (4) - 14 weeks

Canada
16 February 1985 - #42 - 15 weeks

Denmark
29 December 1984 - #12 - 2 weeks

Finland
December 1984 - #10 - 4 months

France
3 November 1984 - #1 (3) - 27 weeks

(West) Germany
22 October 1984 - #1 (4) - 18 weeks

Italy
Musica e Dischi: 16 February 1985 - #5 - 12 weeks
RAI Hit Parade: 3 March 1985 - #10 - 10 weeks
TV Sorrisi e Canzoni: 10 March 1985 - #11 - 12 weeks

The Netherlands
De Nederlandse Top 40: 20 October 1984 - #1 (4) - 10 weeks
Nationale Hitparade: 27 October 1984 - #1 (4) - 15 weeks

New Zealand
21 April 1985 - #15 - 9 weeks

Spain
8 December 1984 - #10 - 22 weeks

Switzerland
11 November 1984 - #1 (5) - 14 weeks

UK
Music Week: 27 October 1984 - #68 - 3 weeks

USA
Billboard: 2 February 1985 - #54 - 11 weeks
Cash Box: 16 February 1985 - #48 - 10 weeks

56.2. When the Rain Begins to Fall by Pappa Bear feat. Van der Toorn

Australia
7 June 1998 - #50 - 1 week

Austria
12 April 1998 - #6 - 13 weeks

Germany
13 April 1998 - #9 - 12 weeks

The Netherlands
Mega Top 100: 2 May 1998 - #21 - 10 weeks
De Nederlandse Top 40: #15 - 6 weeks

New Zealand
21 June 1998 - #4 - 12 weeks

Sweden
3 July 1998 - #56 - 2 weeks

Switzerland
12 April 1998 - #16 - 12 weeks

56.3. When the Rain Begins to Fall by Nouky

The Netherlands
Mega Top 100: 15 February 2003 - #41 - 5 weeks
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Postby Passing_Strang » Mon May 14, 2018 11:16 pm

Now for something a little more sensitive - biggest solo hit by the UK singer who found fame and recognition on the other side of the Atlantic. Not an uncommon story for the 1980s. So while the song was a hit in both the US and UK, it seems to be almost forgotten in the latter while in the former it's a certified pop standard well-remembered and much-loved. It was a late discovery for me and I can't say the song is all to my liking but it's definitely has that certain something and "New Wave" stylings are a nice touch in any case.

By the way, Tina Turner's version was produced by Trevor Horn! Surprised by both performer and producer of that cover :D
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Postby Passing_Strang » Mon May 14, 2018 11:17 pm

57. MISSING YOU by John Waite

Written by: John Waite/Chas Stanford/Mark Leonard
Produced by: John Waite/David Thoener/Gary Gersh
Country of origin: USA
Release date: June 1984

Australia
27 August 1984 - #5 - 22 weeks

Belgium
Belgie Super 30: 15 September 1984 - #14 - 5 weeks
BRT Top 30: 15 September 1984 - #16 - 4 weeks

Canada
28 July 1984 - #1 (2) - 29 weeks

France
TMP France: 7 October 1984 - #65 - 8 weeks

(West) Germany
22 October 1984 - #13 - 15 weeks

Iceland
Rás 2: 28 September 1984 - #20 - 1 week

Ireland
7 October 1984 - #6 - 5 weeks

New Zealand
23 September 1984 - #18 - 9 weeks

Portugal
13 November 1984 - #5 - 14 weeks

South Africa
4 January 1985 - #14 - 8 weeks

Spain
2 March 1985 - #21 - 5 weeks

Switzerland
21 October 1984 - #12 - 10 weeks

UK
Music Week: 29 September 1984 - #9 - 11 weeks
Melody Maker: 6 October 1984 - #8 - 8 weeks
New Musical Express: 13 October 1984 - #8 - 9 weeks

USA
Billboard: 23 June 1984 - #1 (1) - 24 weeks
Cash Box: 30 June 1984 - #1 (2) - 24 weeks
Radio & Records: 13 July 1984 - #1 (2) - 16 weeks

Zimbabwe
7 September 1985 - #19 - 2 weeks

57.1. MISSING YOU (1993) by John Waite

UK
13 February 1993 - #56 - 2 weeks

57.2. Missing You by Tina Turner

Canada
6 August 1996 - #23 - 17 weeks

Germany
9 September 1996 - #66 - 9 weeks

Poland
23 August 1996 - #20 - 7 weeks

UK
27 July 1996 - #12 - 5 weeks

USA
Billboard: 5 October 1996 - #84 - 9 weeks

57.3. Missing You by Brooks & Dunn

USA
Billboard: 16 October 1999 - #75 - 3 weeks
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Postby Robbie » Tue May 15, 2018 10:20 am

I remember the Jermaine Jackson / Pia Zadora single from the time. It was a big radio hit here in the UK but just couldn't make the crossover into being a big chart hit.

I bought 'Missing You' by John Waite. I still think it's a great song. I remember at the time thinking that the first line of the song ("Every time I think of you") was possibly a nod back to his time as lead singer of The Babys as their second US Top 40 single, a #13 hit on the Billboard Hot 100, was titled "Every Time I Think Of You". In a rather sinister twist, O.J. Simpson once described the lyrics to 'Missing You' as perfectly describing his obsession with his wife, Nicole.
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Postby Gambo » Wed May 16, 2018 12:44 pm

Yeah 'Missing You' is still a classic soft-rock number of the period, with a well-trodden but appealing sentiment, and a pleasant if simple melodic production. Ten points to me in the office the other day when this song came up in conversation but nobody could recall who performed it - naturally I rarely have such difficulties and often can't resist providing additional info such as when it charted and possibly its peak position, whether it's welcome or not! I daresay that syndrome is familiar to many who regularly use this forum?!
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Postby Passing_Strang » Sat May 19, 2018 2:50 pm

I know exactly how you feel, Gambo! And being seen by others as a kind of music buff I'm sometimes asked about such things. Makes me a bit uncomfortable as I'm cautious not to bore people with all the flood of details I can roll out - though I'd love to :D Really need some vehicle to unload all I gathered over the years, I guess. The charts are meaningless in Russia, though, there's no chart-collecting culture here, so no use mentioning chart positions - most here won't even understand what one's talking about. I'm on the fence regarding this, though - personally I love charts but feel it quite often restricts people's tastes in music, prevents them from discovering new things, especially non-charting, devalues and marginalises whole genres of music (again, not all the time, but often). Still, a topic for discussion! :)

Robbie, it's always interesting when the song is a hit on the radio but doesn't chart highly. I know radio success is not a guarantee of sales but am still very intrigued to discover the reasons for some song not succeeding. Were it that not enough records were asailable or somesuch thing - or simply people weren't very interested in buying it? Success works in mysterious ways sometimes :)

Now, the new entry. I never though of including ABBA here for very abvious reasons - but one song from B&B is surely welcome! Great addictive tune, strangely, with this ABBA connection, I haven't heard it very often of the airwaves here in Russia but it must've been quite a hit in its day - then again, maybe not having been attached to a politically controversial musical. Still, tremendous hit worldwide (24 countries!) - with the UK being an odd one in that it's the only country where the song didn't chart in "Top 10". The last big hit from ABBA camp, too - and a very popular victim of a dance covers...
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Postby Passing_Strang » Sat May 19, 2018 2:51 pm

58. ONE NIGHT IN BANGKOK by Murray Head

Written by: Benny Anderson/Tim Rice/Bjorn Ulvaeus
Produced by: Benny Anderson/Tim Rice/Bjorn Ulvaeus
Country of origin: UK
Release date: 29 October 1984

Australia
21 January 1985 - #1 (1) - 22 weeks

Austria
Ö3-Hitparade: 20 January 1985 - #2 - 12 weeks
Der Musikmarkt: 1 February 1985 - #2 - 12 weeks

Belgium
Belgie Super 30: 8 December 1984 - #1 (2) - 13 weeks
BRT Top 30: 15 December 1984 - #1 (3) - 16 weeks

Canada
RPM: 26 January 1985 - #3 - 20 weeks
The Record: ? 1985 - #1 (1) - 25 weeks

Denmark
23 November 1984 - #1 (5) - 16 weeks

Finland
December 1984 - #2 - 6 months

France
9 February 1985 - #2 - 18 weeks

(West) Germany
17 December 1984 - #1 (2) - 21 weeks

Iceland
14 December 1984 - #2 - 7 weeks

Ireland
25 November 1984 - #7 - 8 weeks

Israel
#1 (2)

Italy
Musica e Dischi: 23 February 1985 - #10 - 16 weeks
TV Sorrisi e Canzoni: 10 March 1985 - #10 - 16 weeks
RAI Hit Parade: 10 March 1985 - #8 - 17 weeks

The Netherlands
Nationale Hitparade: 29 December 1984 - #1 (2) - 13 weeks
De Nederlandse Top 40: 5 January 1985 - #2 - 11 weeks

New Zealand
10 March 1985 - #2 - 15 weeks

Norway
5 December 1984 - #3 - 16 weeks

Poland
5 January 1985 - #7 - 9 weeks

Portugal
5 February 1985 - #3 - 15 weeks

South Africa
18 January 1985 - #1 (6) - 23 weeks

Spain
23 March 1985 - #2 - 24 weeks

Sweden
Topplistan: 9 November 1984 - #3 - 9 weeks
Trackslistan: 10 November 1984 - #1 (1) - 8 weeks

Switzerland
6 January 1985 - #1 (5) - 16 weeks

UK
Music Week: 3 November 1984 - #12 - 16 weeks
New Musical Express: 24 November 1984 - #13 - 10 weeks
Melody Maker: 24 November 1984 - #13 - 9 weeks

USA
Billboard: 23 February 1985 - #3 - 20 weeks
Cash Box: 23 February 1985 - #4 - 22 weeks
Radio & Records: 15 March 1985 - #5 - 12 weeks

Zimbabwe
9 March 1985 - #3 - 16 weeks

58.2. One Night in Bangkok by Robey

USA
Billboard: 2 March 1985 - #77 - 3 weeks
Cash Box: 2 March 1985 - #75 - 5 weeks

58.3. One Night in Bangkok by TN'T Party Zone

Austria
6 June 1993 - #22 - 5 weeks

58.4. One Night in Bangkok by C21

Denmark
17 October 2003 - #11 - 4 weeks

58.5. One Night in Bangkok by Vinylshakerz

Austria
3 April 2005 - #41 - 6 weeks

Finland
24 April 2005 - #6 - 1 week

Germany
28 March 2005 - #26 - 9 weeks

The Netherlands
Mega Top 100: 14 May 2005 - #53 - 4 weeks

Switzerland
10 April 2005 - #87 - 5 weeks
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Postby Robbie » Sat May 19, 2018 4:50 pm

Passing_Strang wrote:Robbie, it's always interesting when the song is a hit on the radio but doesn't chart highly. I know radio success is not a guarantee of sales but am still very intrigued to discover the reasons for some song not succeeding. Were it that not enough records were asailable or somesuch thing - or simply people weren't very interested in buying it? Success works in mysterious ways sometimes :)

Now, the new entry. I never though of including ABBA here for very abvious reasons - but one song from B&B is surely welcome! Great addictive tune, strangely, with this ABBA connection, I haven't heard it very often of the airwaves here in Russia but it must've been quite a hit in its day - then again, maybe not having been attached to a politically controversial musical. Still, tremendous hit worldwide (24 countries!) - with the UK being an odd one in that it's the only country where the song didn't chart in "Top 10". The last big hit from ABBA camp, too - and a very popular victim of a dance covers...
Some records can catch on at radio but just don't connect with record buyers. In the mid 80s there were a number of records which were big hits in Europe which were playlisted on UK radio (especially the local radio stations, less so national Radio 1) that failed to reach the top 40. Radio 1 tended to just pick up on these records once they had made the top 40. Local radio didn't carry the same influence on a record becoming a national sales hit in the way Radio 1 did.

I liked 'One Night In Bangkok' at the time and still like it now. It's an interesting and quirky song. Although it never made the top 10 in the UK it did sell a decent amount of copies. It was in the top 20 in December 1984, a period with high sales where it took more sales than normal to reach the top 10. Had the single been released a month earlier it would possibly have been a top 10 hit. As for it being the last big hit from the Abba camp - this wasn't the case in the UK. 'One Night In Bangkok' was the first release from the 'Chess' project. The second release, 'I Know Him So Well' by Elaine Paige and Barbara Dickson was a UK number 1.

The label on the single for 'One Night In Bangkok' contains the credit "Choruses sung by Anders Glenmark". A name that means nothing to me but a quick check reveals that he is a Swedish musician with a long recording history and a long history of working with Abba both as a group and on various solo projects by Abba band members. Wikipedia reveals that he played lead guitar on 'Money, Money, Money', the Abba single from 1976.
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Postby yuvalzirler » Mon May 21, 2018 8:22 am

Israeli charts-
Limahl-The neverending story-
Don't know when it entered, here's the chart run starting 2.12.1984- 5-2-2-?-?-14-22-30-out.
8-10 weeks, #2 for 2 weeks behind Chaka Khan's "I feel for you" (may have been #1 for the weeks after)
Jermaine Jackson & Pia Zadora-When the rain begins to fall-
entered in 13.1.1985, charted for 9 weeks, 1 week at #1 (20-6-3-2-1-3-8-17-27-out)
John Waite-Missing you-
chart run starting 2.9.1984 (again, I don't have exact entry date)-20-16-22-?-out. 3-6 weeks, peaked at #16
Murray Head-One night in Bangkok-
entered in 16.12.1984, charted for 11 weeks, at least 2 weeks at #1 (5-?-1-1-2-5-8-10-15-22-29-out)
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Postby huhu78 » Wed May 23, 2018 4:22 pm

NothingFails wrote:While I know this is UK-based, The Cars literally are in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame and had multiple successful albums and hits in the US to the extent that their number of albums sold and hit singles there should nullify one hit wonder status elsewhere. Kinda like how Robbie Williams and Status Quo are nobodies in America but European success carries them.

Hell, the album with Drive alone had four top 20 singles in the US as well as the first "Video Of The Year" winner at the VMA's with You Might Think. Heartbeat City isn't even their highest selling album, their debut from 1978 and their 1985 Greatest Hits albums are. They are definitely a well-established band with a lot of hits under their belt. They were pretty constantly successful between 1978-1986 and only dropped off with "Door To Door" in 1987, and even that had a top 20 single with "You Are The Girl". Easily one of the bigger bands of the early MTV era and a group that somewhat bridged new wave and classic rock. Four albums that sold at least 4x in the US is definitely a force.

Saying they're one hit wonders because Drive's their only big hit there is like me saying that Spandau Ballet are one hit wonders because True's the only song they're known for here.
I totally agree - same with Human League and other acts here, ignorant content.
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Postby Robbie » Wed May 23, 2018 6:15 pm

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NothingFails wrote:While I know this is UK-based, The Cars literally are in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame and had multiple successful albums and hits in the US to the extent that their number of albums sold and hit singles there should nullify one hit wonder status elsewhere. Kinda like how Robbie Williams and Status Quo are nobodies in America but European success carries them.

Hell, the album with Drive alone had four top 20 singles in the US as well as the first "Video Of The Year" winner at the VMA's with You Might Think. Heartbeat City isn't even their highest selling album, their debut from 1978 and their 1985 Greatest Hits albums are. They are definitely a well-established band with a lot of hits under their belt. They were pretty constantly successful between 1978-1986 and only dropped off with "Door To Door" in 1987, and even that had a top 20 single with "You Are The Girl". Easily one of the bigger bands of the early MTV era and a group that somewhat bridged new wave and classic rock. Four albums that sold at least 4x in the US is definitely a force.

Saying they're one hit wonders because Drive's their only big hit there is like me saying that Spandau Ballet are one hit wonders because True's the only song they're known for here.
I totally agree - same with Human League and other acts here, ignorant content.
I think your final comment is a bit strong. It's not ignorant though I wouldn't class acts such as The Cars as a one hit wonder type of act. The thread starter is Russian and probably didn't know much, if anything, about many of these acts during the 1980s when the media was strictly controlled. Or at least I assume it was strictly controlled (my only access to Russian stations in the late 70s and the 80s was Radio Moscow where tractor production figures often led the news headlines simply because the USSR state wanted the world to know how many tractors it had built!). Passing_Strang has already posted that he only got to know many of the records and acts that are featured here in the 90s. So while I haven't always agreed with some of the acts he has included I at least understand why they are here as he didn't know the acts when they were in their prime. Plus I suppose the thinking is that when one act is so strongly associated with one record then there's an element of them being viewed as a one hit wonder even if they are not.
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Postby huhu78 » Wed May 23, 2018 7:25 pm

Robbie wrote:
huhu78 wrote:
NothingFails wrote:While I know this is UK-based, The Cars literally are in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame and had multiple successful albums and hits in the US to the extent that their number of albums sold and hit singles there should nullify one hit wonder status elsewhere. Kinda like how Robbie Williams and Status Quo are nobodies in America but European success carries them.

Hell, the album with Drive alone had four top 20 singles in the US as well as the first "Video Of The Year" winner at the VMA's with You Might Think. Heartbeat City isn't even their highest selling album, their debut from 1978 and their 1985 Greatest Hits albums are. They are definitely a well-established band with a lot of hits under their belt. They were pretty constantly successful between 1978-1986 and only dropped off with "Door To Door" in 1987, and even that had a top 20 single with "You Are The Girl". Easily one of the bigger bands of the early MTV era and a group that somewhat bridged new wave and classic rock. Four albums that sold at least 4x in the US is definitely a force.

Saying they're one hit wonders because Drive's their only big hit there is like me saying that Spandau Ballet are one hit wonders because True's the only song they're known for here.
I totally agree - same with Human League and other acts here, ignorant content.
I think your final comment is a bit strong. It's not ignorant though I wouldn't class acts such as The Cars as a one hit wonder type of act. The thread starter is Russian and probably didn't know much, if anything, about many of these acts during the 1980s when the media was strictly controlled. Or at least I assume it was strictly controlled (my only access to Russian stations in the late 70s and the 80s was Radio Moscow where tractor production figures often led the news headlines simply because the USSR state wanted the world to know how many tractors it had built!). Passing_Strang has already posted that he only got to know many of the records and acts that are featured here in the 90s. So while I haven't always agreed with some of the acts he has included I at least understand why they are here as he didn't know the acts when they were in their prime. Plus I suppose the thinking is that when one act is so strongly associated with one record then there's an element of them being viewed as a one hit wonder even if they are not.
OK, I partly agree. It is not that I don't like the content of the thread - but the term "One Hit Wonder" simply is wrong and should be deleted...in my opinion. Many of the acts had several Top 10 Hits in Germany, UK, US and so on. It displeases my sympathy for facts :D
But I don't want to be the grumbler in here, let's wait for the next acts.
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Postby Robbie » Wed May 23, 2018 8:36 pm

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No problem! I did find it strange at first when P_S was including acts that I wouldn't have classed as one hit wonders but I've got used to the randomness of some of the acts that are included :D
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Postby Passing_Strang » Wed May 23, 2018 10:51 pm

Well, for a start the thread includes not only the term "one hit wonders" but also "biggest hits" - and I'd love to hear a strong argument against "Drive" or "True" or "Don't You Want Me" being their bands' biggest hits by far - not only commercially in their day but also as enduring ones (for better or worse). So one can't concentrate on one term and discard the other as they're both in the title.

Also what's right is that quite a few of the bands featured had more than one hit - in their home country or in other territories. But - find me another hit by, say, The Cars that clocked up so many countries in which it charted! Or for Spandau or Human League. You won't be able - believe me, as I spent the last couple of years doing chart research on these and lots of other bands, as deep a research as possible. Those songs are simply head and shoulders above the rest. And that was the main criteria for picking them, not how many albums those bands have sold or for how long they endured.

And, being a big fan of the mentioned bands, it's not something I like - when one song had hit in 15-20+ countries while other singles, most of which I like better, have only 2-5 territories to show for. Personally I'd love - and actually expected! - to see much more chart action for them. But what can you do? Unfortunately you just cannot get over this - not matter what. Statistics are statistics, after all.

Any more thoughts on the subject - or should we continue? :D
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Postby Chartaholic » Wed May 23, 2018 11:21 pm

Robbie wrote:^
No problem! I did find it strange at first when P_S was including acts that I wouldn't have classed as one hit wonders but I've got used to the randomness of some of the acts that are included :D
It is an interesting list for sure.

Got to admit though I was suckered in by the title, and was looking forward to a list of true new wave songs, hoping to find some obscure song I didn’t know. The abuse of the term new wave bothers me much more than the one hit wonder part :)

As I said though, all lists are interesting in some fashion, so onward!
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Postby huhu78 » Thu May 24, 2018 11:29 am

OK, I guess we won't find a common denominator :D

But at least the Steve Miller Band and Secret Service - both no New Wave Bands to be honest - had both at least one song each which was more successful. Secret Service had several hits which are more common nowadays.

But let's go on with the show / thread.
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Postby anpt » Thu May 24, 2018 4:09 pm

"Up Rock" was no. 9 in Australia and it was their only hit there. They are one-hit wonders in other countries with "(Hey You) The Rock Steady Crew". Frankie Goes To Hollywood, Madness or a-ha are some of the one-hit wonders in USA but not in a lot of countries,

One-hit wonders are big(gest) hits!

An example of a new title for the post:

- "New Wave and so on" Big Hits - 1979-1988

But the title is not the most important :)

more or less inside the subject

The Cars released a greatest hits álbum in 2016 [Moving In Stereo : The Best of the Cars] with 18 tracks. I noticed at the time that it don't included big hits such as "Hello Again" and "Magic" who were top 20 in USA, France or New Zeeland and Canada.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cars_discography

"Trough the Barricades" was the biggest hit for Spandau Ballet in Italy. A #2 while "True" was only "34" or "39".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spandau_B ... iscography

The most important is this list and all of the different songs included.

A nice song to hear and a good vídeo to watch (Rick Ocasek's Emotion Emotion):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVXy7AsjvL4
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Postby Passing_Strang » Fri May 25, 2018 5:58 pm

Chartaholic wrote:Got to admit though I was suckered in by the title, and was looking forward to a list of true new wave songs, hoping to find some obscure song I didn’t know. The abuse of the term new wave bothers me much more than the one hit wonder part :)
The thing is, New Wave itself as a genre didn't produce that much worldwide hits. Was it too tied and too soon after punk that public was resistant to it or maybe it just couldn't compete with disco which was still strong in the early 1980s, or maybe it just wasn't a time when songs could cross the country barriers that easily and on a permanent basis, but the chart results are quite humble most of the time. So, admittedly, this thread is not really a place to look for obscure stuff (though I'd have loved it to be so).

Anyway, I now realise the thread's name was my biggest mistake - but I was so eager to start that just couldn't think of a better title! And yes, maybe a part of me wanted to tempt viewers in with the term :D Unfortunately in the coming entries there won't be much "New Wave" per se, more like songs that were created in genres heavily influenced by NW, or that had certain something that can tie it to NW - some characteristic awkwardness or sociopolitical message or a heavily synthed-up arrangement. More like general 1980s, in short. Hope you all will still be at least moderately interested :)

Here's another song that's a true one-hit wonder - maybe sounds like a generic dance track from mid 1980s but I'm surprised to see lots of kind wonrds and memories about it (especially from the UK people for some reason), which sets it apart from other dance stuff out of US. I'm also surprised to see it charting in so many countries - wasn't really a habit for such club-oriented tracks.
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Postby Passing_Strang » Fri May 25, 2018 6:01 pm

59. BODY ROCK by Maria Vidal

Written by: Sylvester Levay/J. Bettis
Produced by: Sylvester Levay/Phil Galdstron
Country of origin: USA
Release date: September 1984

Australia
25 February 1985 - #26 - 18 weeks

Canada
26 October 1984 - #84 - 15 weeks

Denmark
8 December 1984 - #11 - 3 weeks

Finland
December 1984 - #23 - 1 month

France
TMP France: 11 November 1984 - #11 - 23 weeks

(West) Germany
24 December 1984 - #16 - 12 weeks

Ireland
29 August 1985 - #7 - 7 weeks

Italy
TV Sorrisi e Canzoni: 16 December 1984 - #41 - 10 weeks
Musica e Dischi: 5 January 1985 - #25 - 1 weeks

Portugal
6 April 1985 - #15 - 9 weeks

South Africa
8 February 1985 - #5 - 15 weeks

Sweden
Topplistan: 7 December 1984 - #14 - 2 weeks
Trackslistan: 22 December 1984 - #5 - 6 weeks

Switzerland
27 January 1985 - #6 - 9 weeks

UK
Music Week: 24 August 1985 - #11 - 13 weeks
New Musical Express: 7 September 1985 - #10 - 9 weeks
Melody Maker: 7 September 1985 - #11 - 9 weeks

USA
Billboard: 8 September 1984 - #48 - 12 weeks
Cash Box: 15 September 1984 - #43 - 12 weeks

Zimbabwe
13 April 1985 - #1 - 12 weeks
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Postby Robbie » Fri May 25, 2018 6:27 pm

I've always liked 'Body Rock' by Maria Vidal and bought the single back in September 1985. In the UK one of the BBC channels (BBC4) has been broadcasting repeats of old Top Of The Pops episodes, starting from April 1976 back in April 2011. Currently the repeats are up to September 1985 and this very track was featured on the edition that was shown last night (Thursday, and which was originally broadcast on Thursday 26 September 1985). There is a very active thread for the repeats over at the DigitalSpy message boards (there is, or at least was, also an active thread here at UKMix) and one or two posters have said that 'Body Rock' is reminiscent of a 1984 / 1985 era Madonna track. I'm not sure if I agree with that as I don't recall thinking that at the time but others here may agree with the DS posters.

Also at DS a poster pointed out that the single had first been released in 1984, something which I don't remember. But looking at some of the chart peaks listed above I can now see that it definitely does date back to 1984. On the TOTP edition shown last night Maria was at her chart peak of number 11. Two other records that also date back to 1984, and both that I do remember from that year, were also featured - 'Rebel Yell' by Billy Idol and 'Holding Out For A Hero' by Bonnie Tyler. Both had flopped on release in 1984 but were now (in September 1985) massive UK hits. Bonnie was at her number 2 peak while Billy was at number 13 and would peak at number 6 two weeks later.
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