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Postby MrLeonix » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:58 am

nympho wrote:Who made any drama? Not me...

I didn't say Gaga wasn't new in Vegas... I just told Matheusbelmont that "shows don't sell out very quickly unless you have 10-20 dates like Gaga or Aerosmith" is not true... as Gaga has 27, just 5 less than Britney, and she's selling out very quickly.
So better use the Britney toured recently or it's her 2nd time in Vegas instead of that argument which is not accurate at all in here.

Regrading the "Gaga has released new music, and has a #1 movie out and even Oscar buzz" is not accurate either, as the tickets went on sale months before the movie and the OST were released and they sold really well and quickly on the first weeks...

I'm not saying Britney will flop… most of those dates will probably do fine... Just saying that you don't need to justify Gaga is doing better because "she has only 10-20 dates", which is not true, or she's doig great because "she has new music and a #1 movie", as the tickets went on sale months before that so she sold those tickets on her name alone as well.
Ok.... this post actually feels way more objective and coherent.

Now I understand what you mean and I have to agree with you :wink:
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Postby nympho » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:02 pm

MrLeonix wrote:
... I expect any other less experienced person to be "shocked" .. But I know you both Wayne and Nympho understand this completely .... It's just that for some reason you want to "act surprised".
MrLeonix wrote:Ok.... this post actually feels way more objective and coherent.

Now I understand what you mean and I have to agree with you
Lol.
This one is more objective? Look at my first post above.
I only posted the dates attendance/ tickets sold by now… Just info.

And you're saying I was making drama and acting surprised? :lol:
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Postby MrLeonix » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:09 pm

nympho wrote:
Lol.
This one is more objective? Look at my first post above.
I only posted the dates attendance/ tickets sold by now… Just info.

And you're saying I was making drama and acting surprised? :lol:
I did think you were acting surprised but I missuderstood your first post, the second one made me understand better what you mean, I’ve just re-read everything and you’re actually pretty much on point with the info.
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Postby Instinct » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:49 pm

Ewokguy15 wrote:but the first 3 shows should not have 40-50% of the tickets available, that’s not a good sign.
Did you even look at the post above you?

nympho wrote:Image

Tickets available / Total Tickets
13 Feb: 2,093 / 5,200 (60% sold out)
14 Feb: 2,547 / 5,200 (51%)
16 Feb: 1,617 / 5,200 (69%)
These are the first three shows and none of them are 40% sold out. In fact, one of them is nearly 70% sold out.

And I'm sure you know this already, but tickets have been on sale for a week and the show starts in three months. They won't be 50% sold out by then. :lol: I don't get the faux concern. When she went on tour, her tickets sold out in minutes. Vegas is different and much more tourist/general public driven.

Selling nearly 80k tickets in a week when she just wrapped a show that sold nearly 1 million tickets ain't a bad result at all. It's not smashing out of the gate but it's certainly not flopping.
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Postby MrLeonix » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:53 pm

@Instinct. Do you know what is the "average ticket price" of Britney's show?
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Postby Instinct » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:09 pm

MrLeonix wrote:@Instinct. Do you know what is the "average ticket price" of Britney's show?
Prices for the first Saturday show

Seating:
$ 72.48
$ 115.00
$ 136.70
$ 155.00
$ 164.22
$ 255.96
$ 458.72
$ 1,376.15

Standing:
$ 155

Not counting VIP tables ($1,376), this gives an average of $188. Piece of Me's first four shows averaged $138. :wink:
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Postby MrLeonix » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:23 pm

Instinct wrote:Not counting VIP tables ($1,376), this gives an average of $188. Piece of Me's first four shows averaged $138. :wink:
Thanks.

So we know by actual solid fact that she sold 89,856 tickets in one week . . . Does that mean that the show has already grossed at least $16,892,928 so far / in advance right?

Obviously more tickets will keep selling in the next weeks / months so that number will keep increasing. But with this current number she already broke the $150m grossing mark in her Vegas trajectory and already surpassed the $580m grossing mark in her overall touring career.

I also made a calculation. There are 89,856 tickets sold right now on first week out of 166,400 tickets put on sale. That means that 166,400 represents the total / 100% of the tickets and let's predict that she'll end up with a global 85% total rate of that number when everything is said and done, that would mean 141,440 tickets sold with an average ticket price of $188 gives a total of $26,590,720 grossed from 32 shows.

That is my final prediction. I think she'll end up grossing around $26m from the first 32 shows. Bringing the average per show to $830K (higher than POM).
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Postby Wayne » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:00 pm

^ That's not the right way of looking at average ticket price - we'll get average ticket price once the boxscores are released (dividing the overall boxscore by total tickets sold). The $188 figure doesn't take into consideration that proportionately, there will be considerably more lower priced tickets than higher priced tickets - it's a meaningless number really.

Her first residency had an average ticket price of $149.76 across it's entire run for comparison.

The 88k tickets sold figure assumes the venue was sold at its capacity of 5,200 for each show - and that doesn't seem to be the case? I think I recall it being mentioned that for some of the shows, there are sections not for sale...
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Postby nympho » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:01 pm

MrLeonix wrote:
Instinct wrote:Not counting VIP tables ($1,376), this gives an average of $188. Piece of Me's first four shows averaged $138. :wink:
Thanks.

So we know by actual solid fact that she sold 89,856 tickets in one week . . . Does that mean that the show has already grossed at least $16,892,928 so far / in advance right?

Obviously more tickets will keep selling in the next weeks / months so that number will keep increasing. But with this current number she already broke the $150m grossing mark in her Vegas trajectory and already surpassed the $580m grossing mark in her overall touring career.

I also made a calculation. There are 89,856 tickets sold right now on first week out of 166,400 tickets put on sale. That means that 166,400 represents the total / 100% of the tickets and let's predict that she'll end up with a global 85% total rate of that number when everything is said and done, that would mean 141,440 tickets sold with an average ticket price of $188 gives a total of $26,590,720 grossed from 32 shows.

That is my final prediction. I think she'll end up grossing around $26m from the first 32 shows. Bringing the average per show to $830K (higher than POM).
No.
We know there are 77,165 unsold tickets right now.
But we don’t know if 5,200 tickets were available each night (and, as I said, looking at several dates map, certain sections were not on sale.
So we cannot know how many tickets were sold so far.
But less than that.
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Postby Instinct » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:20 pm

It's still way too early to make an estimate IMO. Same goes for the "this is flopping" comments. It's only been a week. We should just wait at least until December/January.
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Postby Wayne » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:24 pm

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Postby MrLeonix » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:33 pm

nympho wrote:No.
We know there are 77,165 unsold tickets right now.
But we don’t know if 5,200 tickets were available each night (and, as I said, looking at several dates map, certain sections were not on sale.
So we cannot know how many tickets were sold so far.
But less than that.
Well lets say she sold 60K tickets. That'd make up for a $11,280,000 gross and for 137K tickets put on sale.

Using the same rates I previously did (85% sold of the whole thing after everything is said and done), she would get a gross of $21,892,600 with 32 shows ($684K per show still higher than POM).

However these numbers are way too conservative. I do think there are more tickets put on sale than this scenario.
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Postby Wayne » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:41 pm

No Vegas boxscores this week.
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Postby Wayne » Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:49 pm

We're one week on, and I thought it helpful to do a further update on Britney's Domination:

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Tickets available / Total Tickets
13 Feb: 2,093 / 5,200 (60% sold out) - 2,055 - 38
14 Feb: 2,547 / 5,200 (51%) - 2,476 - 71
16 Feb: 1,617 / 5,200 (69%) - 1,529 - 88
17 Feb: 2,755 / 5,200 (47%) - 2,659 - 96
20 Feb: 2,633 / 5,200 (49%) - 2,559 - 74
22 Feb: 2,321 / 5,200 (55%) - 2,191 - 130
23 Feb: 1,842 / 5,200 (65%) - 1,757 - 85
27 Feb: 2,632 / 5,200 (49%) - 2,596 - 36
1 Mar: 2,545 / 5,200 (51%) - 2,439 - 106
2 Mar: 1,663 / 5,200 (68%) - 1,576 - 87
8 May: 2,749 / 5,200 (47%) - 2,725 - 24
10 May: 2,440 / 5,200 (53%) - 2,401- 39
11 May: 2,220 / 5,200 (57%) 2,176 - 44
15 May: 2,632 / 5,200 (49%) - 2,606 - 26
17 May: 2,631 / 5,200 (49%) - 2,583 - 48
18 May: 2,072 / 5,200 (60%) - 2,043 - 29
22 May: 2,806 / 5,200 (46%) - 2,790 - 16
24 May: 2,489 / 5,200 (45%) - 2,466 - 23
25 May: 2,131 / 5,200 (59%) - 2,080 - 51
26 May: 2,657 / 5,200 (49%) - 2,594 - 63
24 Jul: 2,657 / 5,200 (49%) - 2,635 - 78
26 Jul: 2,688 / 5,200 (48%) - 2,626 - 62
27 Jul: 2,308 / 5,200 (56%) - 2,249 - 59
31 Jul: 2,794 / 5,200 (46%) - 2,726 - 68
2 Aug: 2,722 / 5,200 48%) - 2,722 ** wasn't previously included **
3 Aug: 2,329 / 5,200 (55%) - 2,273 - 56
7 Aug: 3,031 / 5,200 (42%) - 3,028 - 3
9 Aug: 2,950 / 5,200 (43%) - 2,888 - 62
10 Aug: 2,468 / 5,200 (53%) - 2,414 - 54
14 Aug: 2,918 / 5,200 (44%) - 2,864 - 54
16 Aug: 2,824 / 5,200 (46%) - 2,778 - 46
17 Aug: 2,723 / 5,200 (48%) - 2,696 - 27

I've added the remaining tickets next to the % and the tickets sold since the last update after.

Britney has sold 1,699 tickets in the last week across 32 dates (and whatever she'd sold on the 02nd August date which wasn't previously included).

Total:
Tickets available / Total Tickets
76,360 /166,400 (54% sold out)
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Postby Beautyisbeauty » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:34 pm

Last week there were 2789 tickets available for the 2nd august date (as of November 3rd). Number geeks :lol: :lol:
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Postby nympho » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:08 pm


Robbie Williams announces 2019 Las Vegas Residency

The singer will play his first run of shows in Vegas in March 2019.

Robbie Williams is taking his music to Nevada city in 2019 with his first Las Vegas residency.
The singer will bring the hits from his 12 Official UK Number 1 albums to Vegas in March 2019, performing at the Wynn hotel and casino.
Robbie said: "I’m beyond excited to announce my first ever residency in Las Vegas. To follow in the footsteps of some of the greatest entertainers of all time is a dream come true - I can’t wait."
The residency kicks off with six shows in March: the 5th, 8th, 9th, 13th and 16th.

Tickets go on general sale at 3pm UK time on Friday, November 16, with prices starting at $59.50.
It's been a busy year for Robbie: back in the summer he performed at the opening ceremony of the 2018 FIFA World Cup in Moscow, and he's currently a judge on this year’s X Factor alongside wife Ayda Williams.

Vegas is popular destination for touring artists: Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, Celine Dion and Backstreet Boys are just some of the acts about to join or are currently performing on the strip.
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Is he relying on European tourists to buy tickets every night?

Cause he never ever made it in America… He's biggest hit there was Angels (#53) (only other single charting was Millenium, #72) and none of his albums has been even Top 40.
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Postby BeeBoy » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:16 pm

6 shows and only 5 dates?
I don't think they should extend it though. He will probably manage to sell those tickets to european tourists and some hardcore US fans but I can't see him doing a resedency for longer than that. Starting at 59.50 is pretty cheap anyway for Vegas isn't it?
I really wonder if they are not oversaturating the market there at some point
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Postby nympho » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:24 pm

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The OCC article messed it up with the dates...
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Postby Wayne » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:32 pm

He's the last person I expected...

Talk about a bad idea.
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Postby matheusbelmont » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:54 pm

10/24/2018
10/27/2018
3 Show(s)
Backstreet Boys
Zappos Theater at Planet Hollywood
Las Vegas, NV
11,245 / 12,241 (92%)
36.00 - 294.00
$1,651,299
Caesars Entertainment, Live Nation

10/31/2018
11/3/2018
3 Show(s)
Backstreet Boys
Zappos Theater at Planet Hollywood
Las Vegas, NV
9,427 / 11,846 (80%)
36.00 - 294.00
$1,246,029
Caesars Entertainment, Live Nation

Total:
Gross: $30,811,404
Tickets: 225,809
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Postby BeeBoy » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:59 pm

Wayne wrote:He's the last person I expected...

Talk about a bad idea.
it seems every date sold out already and he is adding 6 new dates for june :o lmao at us thinking he will struggle :lol:
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Postby Wayne » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:20 pm

Robbie Williams adds shows at Wynn; Barry Manilow’s 2019 shows on sale

To borrow a term used in craps, Robbie Williams is rolling box cars at Wynn Las Vegas.

It’s double-sixes for Williams’ schedule at Encore Theater. The British showman, pop artist and TV star has added six dates to his existing six-show schedule at the theater. The new shows run June 19-29, and are on sale 7 a.m. Tuesday. Tickets run $59.50-$200 (minus fees) and are available at WynnLasVegas.com or 702.770.9966).

Meantime, Barry Manilow has announced on-sales dates for his 2019 performances at Westgate Las Vegas. Manilow’s shows are set for select weekends beginning Feb. 14-16 through June 13-15. Those shows range from $39.95 to $329.75 (minus fees) and are on sale at 10 a.m. Wednesday at Westgate Las Vegas at 800.222.5361, or online at www.barrymanilow.com or www.westgatelasvegas.com.

Manilow’s return coincides with the hotel’s 50th anniversary. It opened as the International in 1969, with Barbra Streisand as the first headliner in the International Theater and Elvis Presley as the showroom’s first resident superstar.

“Barry Manilow is the rare talent who can consistently deliver a concert of hits that thrills our guests night after night,” David Siegel, founder and CEO of Westgate Resorts, said in a statement. “He is an iconic, once-in-a-generation performer and we are thrilled he has chosen to make our famed International Theater his home as part of the Westgate’s 50th Anniversary year in 2019.”

Manilow closed his 2018 series at the hotel in energetic and mischievous fashion. On Friday, he kicked the lyrics to one of his famous hits, “Even Now,” re-starting the song while saying, “Now you know this show isn’t lip-synced!” After dancing through the Donna Summer/disco version of “Could It Be Magic,” he called his familiar line, “What is your 75-year-old grandfather doing tonight?”

Himself an able showman, Williams, headlining in the “Robbie Williams Live In Las Vegas” production, has sold out his original run of six shows from March 6-16. Williams has sold 77 million records internationally as a soloist and with the band Take That. He’s won 18 BRIT Awards, the British annual music honors, and has the record for most BRITs won by an artist (13 as a soloist, five with Take That). Swift ticket sales are nothing new for Williams; his 2006 world tour moved 1.6 million tickets in a single day.

Along with his wife, Ayda, and Simon Cowell and Sharon Osbourne, Williams is a judge on “The X Factor” in the United Kingdom and has just wrapped a world stadium tour. Earlier this month, he e-mailed the message, “It’s most people’s dream to visit Las Vegas at least once in their life, I think wherever they’re from in the world. It’s a place of legends and I’m honored to have been invited down to play there next year.”

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Since I started tracking this, the Wynn venue has only exceeded the 2k+ tickets per show on one occasion that I can see - that was for John Fogerty last year (still not convinced that was a true and accurate boxscore) - on every other occasion, it's generally been between 1,000-1,500 per show.

I wonder how many tickets Robbie has sold...
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Postby matheusbelmont » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:19 pm

11/07/2018
11/10/2018
3 Show(s)
Backstreet Boys
Zappos Theater at Planet Hollywood
Las Vegas, NV
10,978 / 12,611 (87%)
34.00 - 294.00
$1,484,562
Caesars Entertainment, Live Nation

11/14/2018
11/17/2018
3 Show(s)
Backstreet Boys
Zappos Theater at Planet Hollywood
Las Vegas, NV
10,079 / 12,178 (83%)
34.00 - 294.00
$1,341,778
Caesars Entertainment, Live Nation

Total:
Gross: $33,637,744
Tickets: 246,866
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Postby Wayne » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:04 pm

Their numbers are a whole lot less than they used to be but they're adding to their total quite nicely...

They have another 18 shows - if they maintain the same averages as the last leg, they will just fall short of Shania's Still The One residency (which is the 10th highest-grossing residency of the modern era).
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Postby ViviLittleM » Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:24 pm

Can't wait for Lady Gaga's boxscores, which will surely be huge.
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