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Postby frankie_85 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:03 pm

I think i wrote it less than a month ago in an artist's thread (don't remember which one) that, now with the big increase of streaming, FIMI should upgrade the certification level for singles because 15k for Gold and 30k for Platinum is definitely too low and that they should, at least, bring back the old levels of the physical era 25K for Gold and 50k for Platinum...and guess what?

http://www.fimi.it/5299

They did :lol:

Starting from Week 5 of 2015 Gold for singles (downloads + streaming) is 25.000 and Platinum is 50.000.
These used to be the levels until December 2004; starting from January 2005 with the physical singles sales continuosly declining the levels were downgraded to 10k for Gold and 20k for Platinum.
Ironically now, exactly 10 years later, they brought it back the old levels :lol:
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Postby ICELANDIC » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:54 pm

Where can we check all the certifications levels per country updated?????
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Postby borderwolf » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:01 pm

Week 5,
Pino Daniele has 17 albums on Top 100,
Nero A Metà is his peak, at #18
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Postby borderwolf » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:00 pm

New look (bad) for FIMI
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Postby borderwolf » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:07 pm

borderwolf wrote:New look (bad) for FIMI
And always without total weeks on chart for re-entries :evil:
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Postby frankie_85 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:56 am

borderwolf wrote:
borderwolf wrote:New look (bad) for FIMI
And always without total weeks on chart for re-entries :evil:
Exactly :evil:

Don't like the new look...i hate when charts of, for example, 100 positions are split in different pages. I like to see the whole chart in one page.
Also i love how they bother to change the asthetics of the site but they don't bother to adjust basic things like the archive or giving number of past weeks when an album is a re-entry :lol:

Btw, no new singles certification for these last two weeks.
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Postby borderwolf » Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:17 am

Week 6,
Pino Daniele has 16 albums on Top 100
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Postby frankie_85 » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:34 pm

With Madonna claiming her 11th number one album, she re-breaks the tie with Springsteen and is again the foreign artist with the most chart topper in the FIMI charts (1995-2015). [Among all acts, foreign and italians, she and Ligabue rank second only behind Vasco]

1) Madonna - 11 - 19 weeks at #1
2) Bruce Springsteen - 10 - 15 weeks at #1
3) U2 - 7 - 16 weeks at #1
4) Michael Jackson - 6 - 16 weeks at #1
5) Coldplay - 5 - 12 weeks at #1

Linkin Park, Michael Bublè, Oasis, Red Hot Chili Peppers, R.E.M. and Ben Harper all have 4 number one albums.
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Postby LostAvenger » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:24 pm

FIMI always seem to sneak in the top 50 singles chart some weeks before taking it down to a top 20. I'm just happy I caught Madonna's positions in the top 50 before they did that!
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Postby frankie_85 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:37 pm

LostAvenger wrote:FIMI always seem to sneak in the top 50 singles chart some weeks before taking it down to a top 20. I'm just happy I caught Madonna's positions in the top 50 before they did that!
A couple of user at italiancharts.it luckily saved the chart and posted it in the forum (top100!).

Btw, most weeks in the FIMI archive for singles are now a top50 :o a mistake or done it on purpose?
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Postby zago » Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:54 pm

Estimations @ Week 13 / 2015

JOVANOTTI Lorenzo 2015 cc. 130044 130044
MARCO MENGONI Parole In Circolo 111987 111987
TIZIANO FERRO TZN - The Best Of Tiziano Ferro 108148 249279
J.AX Il Bello D'Esser Brutti 87776 87776
IL VOLO Sanremo Grande Amore 82939 82939
GIANNA NANNINI Hitalia 48392 149999
MADONNA Rebel Heart 40461 40461
MODA' Modà - 2004-2014 l'originale 38153 158149
DEAR JACK Domani è un altro Film - Seconda Parte 36238 36238
VASCO ROSSI Sono Innocente 34065 268382
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http://worldwidealbums.blogspot.it/2015 ... stime.html
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Postby sbk » Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:57 pm

Does Italy have annual (year-end) album charts before 2003? I found 2003-on here, but can't find much before that :oops:
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Postby frankie_85 » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:51 pm

frankie_85 wrote:With Madonna claiming her 11th number one album, she re-breaks the tie with Springsteen and is again the foreign artist with the most chart topper in the FIMI charts (1995-2015). [Among all acts, foreign and italians, Madonna and Ligabue rank second only behind Vasco]
Ligabue released a new live album and (obviously) debuts at # 1. A few weeks after Madonna reached him, he's now again above her in terms of number one albums in the FIMI years (1995-2015).

1) Vasco Rossi - 14
2) Ligabue - 12
3) Madonna - 11
4) Bruce Springsteen - 10
5) Zucchero and Jovanotti - both with 9 number one albums
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Postby frankie_85 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:51 pm

Some interesting stuff from the press conference about the global release day that started Friday 10 July. Italy is in line with the other markets and this next friday (July 17) will be the first "new music friday" chart.
Records were released on Tuesday in Italy before this change. The tracking week was Tuesday-Monday and the charts were usually released 4 days later the end of the tracking week. Now they will be revealed the next day that the tracking week ends (Friday-Thursday).

Another interesting point that strangely i didn't find in the FIMI website is that the italian market keeps on growing up...after 2013 and 2014, this year too seem to be a positive one. In the first six months of the year the market as a whole is up 23% (physical +22%, digital +23% and streaming +37%)

The article is HERE (it's in italian)

Edit
I forgot to mention that in their Facebook page, stuff from FIMI confirmed that this next chart will cover the week 10-17 July. But for the previous chart with the "old" tracking days, the last day covered was July 5. So what about 6, 7, 8 and 9 July? Well unlike other countries that will cover longer or shorter periods in order to not miss any days FIMI will skip those 4 days...they say that doing this they keep the tracking week to 7 days, so comparable with all the other weeks. Those 4 days will be counted for year-end charts and certifications purpose...so they will not be really "lost".
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Postby floria » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:54 pm

frankie_85 wrote:Some interesting stuff from the press conference about the global release day that started Friday 10 July. Italy is in line with the other markets and this next friday (July 17) will be the first "new music friday" chart.
Records were released on Tuesday in Italy before this change. The tracking week was Tuesday-Monday and the charts were usually released 4 days later the end of the tracking week. Now they will be revealed the next day that the tracking week ends (Friday-Thursday).

Another interesting point that strangely i didn't find in the FIMI website is that the italian market keeps on growing up...after 2013 and 2014, this year too seem to be a positive one. In the first six months of the year the market as a whole is up 23% (physical +22%, digital +23% and streaming +37%)

The article is HERE (it's in italian)
That's great! :D
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Postby maroon » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:26 pm

Very useful and highly appreciated information! Grazie Francesco!!! :D
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Postby me » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:23 am

frankie_85 wrote:Some interesting stuff from the press conference about the global release day that started Friday 10 July. Italy is in line with the other markets and this next friday (July 17) will be the first "new music friday" chart.
Records were released on Tuesday in Italy before this change. The tracking week was Tuesday-Monday and the charts were usually released 4 days later the end of the tracking week. Now they will be revealed the next day that the tracking week ends (Friday-Thursday).

Another interesting point that strangely i didn't find in the FIMI website is that the italian market keeps on growing up...after 2013 and 2014, this year too seem to be a positive one. In the first six months of the year the market as a whole is up 23% (physical +22%, digital +23% and streaming +37%)

The article is HERE (it's in italian)

Edit
I forgot to mention that in their Facebook page, stuff from FIMI confirmed that this next chart will cover the week 10-17 July. But for the previous chart with the "old" tracking days, the last day covered was July 5. So what about 6, 7, 8 and 9 July? Well unlike other countries that will cover longer or shorter periods in order to not miss any days FIMI will skip those 4 days...they say that doing this they keep the tracking week to 7 days, so comparable with all the other weeks. Those 4 days will be counted for year-end charts and certifications purpose...so they will not be really "lost".
A little correction: tracking week was Monday-Sunday and not tracking week was Tuesday-Monday, as you specify later "the last day covered was July 5" and July 5 is Sunday.
italian charts: http://www.it-charts.it/ (old web site) http://www.italycharts.com/ (will be out on next months)
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Postby frankie_85 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:16 pm

That's true, thanks for the correction :wink: first part i simply translated the article, they got the wrong days...i should've checked!
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Postby frankie_85 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:16 pm

frankie_85 wrote:
Another interesting point that strangely i didn't find in the FIMI website is that the italian market keeps on growing up...after 2013 and 2014, this year too seem to be a positive one. In the first six months of the year the market as a whole is up 23% (physical +22%, digital +23% and streaming +37%)
FIMI published the report on their website today :P . See HERE.
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Postby frankie_85 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:03 am

I left the thread in July with a positive news about the situation of the Italian market after in the first 6 months of the year, well after 9 months the trend remains positive...

Italian market (YTD 9 Months 2015 vs. YTD 9 Months 2014)

Total Physical Market €50.7m vs. €41.3m (+23%) [Domestic repertoire is up 79%]

Total Digital Market €43.2m vs. €34.1m (+27%)
Digital download €15.1m vs. €14.7m (+3%)
Subscription streams €19.8m vs. €10m (+99%)
Ad-supported streams €8.3m vs. €9.4m (-12%)

Vinyl €3.6m vs. €2.1m (+74%)

Total Market €93.9m vs. €75.4m (+25%)
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Postby borderwolf » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:32 pm

No more Dvd chart on FIMI web-site, but now there is a Top 20 Vinyl
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Postby zago » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:33 pm

nice idea, but unfortunately GFK panel doesn't cover almost all indipendent/small record stores, where usually are sold more (and more various) vinyls than in megastores.
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Postby frankie_85 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:54 pm

Being at home ill i had time to, at least partially, update my file. I was curious to see how this list changed

frankie_85 wrote:Foreign albums with the most weeks in the FIMI charts - as of 23 December 2012 when i posted it

01) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side Of The Moon - 301
02) Queen - Platinum Collection - 191
03) Amy Winehouse - Back To Black - 185
0#) Coldplay - Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friend - 185
05) Pink Floyd - The Wall - 178
06) Guns'n'Roses - Greatest Hits - 152
07) Norah Jones - Come Away With Me - 130
08) Deep Purple - Made In Japan: 25th Anniversary Edition - 128
09) Red Hot Chili Peppers - Californication - 127
10) AC/DC - Back In Black - 126
Here's the new one as of 24 January 2016

1. Pink Floyd - The Dark Side Of The Moon - 460 weeks
2. Pink Floyd - The Wall - 317 weeks
3. Queen - Platinum Collection - 295 weeks
4. Amy Winehouse - Back To Black - 262 weeks
5. Guns'n'Roses - Greatest Hits - 258 weeks
6. AC/DC - Back In Black - 240 weeks
7. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 210 weeks
8. Adele - 21 - 201 weeks
9. Coldplay - Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends - 188 weeks
10. Eddie Vedder - Into The Wild - 186 weeks

..a little extra

11. Lana Del Rey - Born To Die - 158 weeks
12. Doors - The Very Best Of - 155 weeks
13. Nirvana - Nevermind - 150 weeks
14. One Direction - Up All Night - 145 weeks
15. Deep Purple - Made In Japan: 25th Anniversary Edition - 136 weeks
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Postby ICELANDIC » Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:00 am

Why FIMI does not certify IL VOLO "l'amore si muove" and ADELE with 2 platinum and 4 platinum respectively ???? they have already sold that
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Postby Nackar » Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:20 am

Because, like with almost all other record certification institutions in the world, it is not up to them to decide whether a record gets a certification. The label has to APPLY for it.

If they're eligible but not certified it's because the label hasn't bothered.
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