MTV Top 20 Video Countdown (US)

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Postby mrpenpen » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:23 pm

Actually I just looked back through some older posts and see that when you re-dated the "6/30" RS chart to 7/7 and "7/14" to 7/21 things seem to fall into place. Got it.
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Postby mrpenpen » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:40 pm

Also looking at the mysterious gap at #8 in your estimated 6/23 chart, my best guess is that it's Elvis Costello's "Veronica," which was #61 on the year-end chart but still hasn't turned up in any of the top 10 lists. It peaked at #19 on BB right around then.
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Postby azul120 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:22 am

Heh, thanks. Though I don't know if I'll ever find any other newspapers with MTV chart info. There were no newspapers with info on 11/27/87. I gotta ask, are you sure Richard Marx peaked at #4 with "Should've Known Better"? Because there wasn't enough room for it and "Little Lies" that week. (Not to mention that, while not always a factor, 11/20 was the final week the former was on the MTV airplay lists.) Still, in addition to doing fairly well on the year end top 100, it did get a few top of the hour recurrent plays.

According to old TV listings as well as R&R magazine, MTV did a Top 27 1/2 summer video countdown at the end of summer in '87 and '88.
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Postby mrpenpen » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:21 pm

yeah, looking back at those weeks in light of the new confirmed 11/20 top 10, I guess I must have mis-recorded the Richard Marx peak. Plus just in general I can't think of any other trajectories from that era of =/+1/+1/drop, whereas =/+1/drop was relatively common.

I'll go back and update those '87/'88 lists earlier in the thread with the most recent data at some point.
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Postby azul120 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:10 pm

Yeah. Also, falling clips were rarely grouped together, and never more than 2 back to back. (Usually one of them would be falling a spot or two.)

Just be sure you have the following (major correction for Cher in bold):

Week of 6/17/88
1) (=) (8) Hall & Oates - “Everything Your Heart Desires” (#1 for 2 weeks)
2) (+1) (6) Michael Jackson - “Dirty Diana” (#2)
3) (+6) (4) Cheap Trick - “The Flame” (#3)
4) (-2) (8) George Michael - “One More Try” (#1 for 2 weeks)
5) (+7) (3) Prince - “Alphabet St.” (#5)
6) (-2) (5) Belinda Carlisle - “Circle in the Sand” (#4)
7) (+11) (2) INXS - “New Sensation” (#7)
8) (+6) (3) Cher - “We All Sleep Alone” (#8)
9) (-4) (10) Johnny Hates Jazz - “Shattered Dreams” (#1 for 1 week)
10) (+5) (3) Poison - “Nothin’ But a Good Time” (#10)

Week of 6/24/88
1) (+1) (7) Michael Jackson - “Dirty Diana” (#1 for 1 week)
2) (+1) (5) Cheap Trick - “The Flame” (#2)
3) (+2) (4) Prince - “Alphabet St.” (#3)
4) (+3) (3) INXS - “New Sensation” (#4)
5) (+5) (4) Poison - “Nothin’ But a Good Time” (#5)
6) (-5) (9) Hall & Oates - “Everything Your Heart Desires” (#1 for 2 weeks)
7) (+12?) (2) Def Leppard - “Pour Some Sugar On Me” (#7)
8) (=) (4) Cher - “We All Sleep Alone” (#8)
9) (-5) (9) George Michael - “One More Try” (#1 for 2 weeks)
10) (+7?) (2) Rod Stewart - “Lost in You” (#10)
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Postby Kenne » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:51 pm

Hall & Oates are listed as #1 for 2 weeks in the first week and #1 for 1 week in the second countdown listed.
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Postby azul120 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:17 am

Fixed.

Also, here's a couple more fixed top 10s, with guesses at 11-20 as a result in italics.

Week of 6/26/87
1) (+1) (7) Genesis - “In Too Deep” (#1 for 1 week)
2) (+1) (5) Heart - “Alone” (#2)
3) (+1) (6) Eddie Money - “Endless Nights” (#3)
4) (-3) (10) Bon Jovi - “Wanted Dead or Alive” (#1 for 4 weeks)
5) (+2) (8) Crowded House - “Something So Strong” (#5)
6) (=) (7) Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - “Jammin’ Me” (#6)
7) (+3) (4) Kenny Loggins - “Meet Me Halfway” (#7)
8) (+6) (3) Bob Seger - “Shakedown” (#6)
9) (-4) (11) Bryan Adams - “Heat of the Night” (#2)
10) (+1) (3) Whitney Houston - “I Wanna Dance With Somebody” (#10)
11) (-3) (5) Kim Wilde - “You Keep Me Hangin’ On” (#8)
12) (+1) (6) Billy Idol - “Sweet Sixteen” (#12)
13) (-4) (12) Europe - “Rock the Night” (#3)
14) (+5) (2) U2 - “I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For” (#14)
15) (+3) (2) Motley Crue - “Girls, Girls, Girls” (#15)
?16) (+4) (2) Janet Jackson - “Pleasure Principle” (#16)
17) (-5) (15) U2 - “With or Without You” (#1 for 6 weeks)
18) (Debut) Steve Winwood - “Back in the High Life Again” (#18)
19) (-3) (4) Whitesnake - “Still of the Night” (#16)
20) (Debut) Richard Marx - “Don’t Mean Nothing” (#20)


Question mark next to Janet Jackson since a commercial break in early July '92 said she debuted 5 years earlier at #14 with "Pleasure Principle".

Week of 8/12/88:
1) (+1) (8) Aerosmith - “Rag Doll” (#1 for 1 week)
2) (+1) (7) Elton John - “I Don’t Wanna Go On With You Like That” (#2)
3) (-2) (7) Richard Marx - “Hold On To the Nights” (#1 for 1 week)
4) (+2) (7) Guns n’ Roses - “Sweet Child o’ Mine” (#4)
5) (+4) (5) Huey Lewis & the News - “Perfect World” (#5)
6) (+1) (4) George Michael - “Monkey” (#6)
7) (+1) (6) Robert Palmer - “Simply Irresistible” (#7)
8) (-4) (8) Steve Winwood - “Roll With It” (#1 for 1 week)
9) (+2) (6) Pat Benatar - “All Fired Up” (#9)
10) (+2) (5) Hall & Oates - “Missed Opportunity” (#10)
11) (-6) (7) Fat Boys - “The Twist” (#5)
12) (+1) (6) Crowded House - “Better Be Home Soon” (#12)
13) (+3) (3) Tracy Chapman - “Fast Car” (#13)
14) (+4) (2) Van Halen - “When It’s Love” (#14)
15) (+2) (3) Kenny Loggins - “Nobody’s Fool” (#15)
16) (-6) (8) Terence Trent D’Arby - “Sign Your Name” (#4)
17) (+3) (2) Joan Jett - “I Hate Myself for Loving You” (#17)
18) (Debut) Cheap Trick - “Don’t Be Cruel” (#18)
19) (-5) (9) Def Leppard - “Pour Some Sugar On Me” (#1 for 2 weeks)
20) (Debut) Poison - “Fallen Angel” (#20)


Veronica's final week on the MTV rotation list was 6/16, so it's a toss-up.

Couple of other lower region countdown potentials for that period: "Be With You" by Bangles and "Cuddly Toy" by Roachford.
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Postby Kenne » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:42 pm

"Veronica" won best Male video award at the VMAs that year, so that might be why it had that ranking on the year end chart.
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Postby azul120 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:05 pm

In the absence of new info or clips, thought I'd do a breakdown of the 1989 top 100 by chart peak:

100. It’s No Crime - Babyface 8
99. The Love In Your Eyes - Eddie Money 7
98. The Angel Song - Great White 19
97. Walk The Dinosaur - Was (Not Was) 5
96. Rooms On Fire - Stevie Nicks 8
95. Girl You Know It’s True - Milli Vanilli 1
94. Fool For Your Loving - Whitesnake 8*
93. Lost In Your Eyes - Debbie Gibson 1
92. When Love Comes To Town - U2 / BB King 15
91. Kisses On The Wind - Neneh Cherry 5
90. Everlasting Love - Howard Jones 5
89. Healing Hands - Elton John 9
88. Rhythm Nation - Janet Jackson 2* (peaking)
87. The Right Stuff - New Kids On The Block 5
86. When The Night Comes - Joe Cocker 5* (would peak at #3 but not appear in next year's countdown)
85. Funky Cold Medina - Tone Loc 4
84. Your Mama Don’t Dance - Poison 7
83. Another Day In Paradise - Phil Collins 1 (2 weeks)*
82. Friends - Jody Watley / Erik B & Rakim 8
81. Toy Soldiers - Martika 1
80. Crazy About Her - Rod Stewart 7
79. Living In Sin - Bon Jovi 2*
78. Second Chance - .38 Special 3
77. One - Metallica 16
76. Angelia - Richard Marx 2
75. You Got It - Roy Orbison 7?
74. Listen To Her Heart - Roxette 1
73. Down Boys - Warrant 19
72. I’ll Be Loving You (Forever) - New Kids On The Block 4 (2 weeks)
71. In Your Eyes - Peter Gabriel ?
70. The Way That You Love Me - Paula Abdul 1
69. When I See You Smile - Bad English 1
68. Batdance - Prince 1
67. Rock And A Hard Place - Rolling Stones 1*
66. The Doctor - Doobie Brothers 4
65. Dr. Feelgood - Motley Crue 5
64. Angel Eyes - Jeff Healy Band 5
63. Bust A Move - Young MC 7
62. Janie’s Got A Gun - Aerosmith 3* (would spend 2 weeks at #1 in the new year)
61. Veronica - Elvis Costello ?
60. Poison- Alice Cooper 4
59. Don’t Look Back - Fine Young Cannibals 3 (2 weeks)
58. Eternal Flame - Bangles 1
57. Coming Home - Cinderella 7/6
56. Leave Me Alone - Michael Jackson 20
55. Little Liar - Joan Jett & The Blackhearts 6
54. Baby Don’t Forget My Number - Milli Vanilli 2
53. Running Down A Dream - Tom Petty 7
52. Right Here Waiting - Richard Marx 1
51. What I Am - Edie Brickell & New Bohemians 2
50. Love Song - The Cure 3 (2 weeks)
49. Headed For A Heartbreak - Winger 3 (2 weeks)
48. The Look - Roxette 2
47. I’ll Be There For You - Bon Jovi 1 (2 weeks)
46. My Heart Can’t Tell You No - Rod Stewart 2
45. Smooth Criminal - Michael Jackson 2
44. So Alive - Love & Rockets 5 (3 weeks?)
43. Real Love - Jody Watley 4
42. The End OF The Innocence - Don Henley 3
41. Handle With Care - Traveling Wilburys 7
40. If I Could Turn Back Time - Cher 2 (2 weeks)
39. Wild Thing - Tone Loc 3
38. Cherish - Madonna 1 (2 weeks)
37. Close My Eyes Forever - Lita Ford / Ozzy Osbourne 4
36. Pop Singer - John Cougar Mellencamp 4
35. On Our Own - Bobby Brown 1
34. Armageddon It - Def Leppard 1
33. Good Thing - Fine Young Cannibals 1 (2 weeks)
32. Born To Be My Baby - Bon Jovi 1
31. Free Fallin’ - Tom Petty 1* (would spend 2nd week on top in the new year)
30. Glamour Boys - Living Colour 5
29. Cold Hearted - Paula Abdul 1 (2 weeks)
28. Heaven - Warrant 1
27. Miss You Much - Janet Jackson 1
26. Seventeen - Winger 5
25. Buffalo Stance - Neneh Cherry 2
24. Love In An Elevator - Aerosmith 1
23. Love Shack - B-52’s 2 (2 weeks)
22. 18 And Life - Skid Row 3
21. The Living Years - Mike & The Mechanics 1
20. Mixed Emotions - Rolling Stones 5
19. Satisfied - Richard Marx 1 (2 weeks)
18. When The Children Cry - White Lion 1
17. Forever Your Girl - Paula Abdul 1
16. Patience - Guns N Roses 1
15. We Didn’t Start The Fire - Billy Joel 1 (2 weeks)*
14. Angel Of Harlem - U2 1
13. Express Yourself - Madonna 1
12. Lay Your Hands On Me - Bon Jovi 1
11. Sowing The Seeds Of Love - Tears For Fears 1
10. Once Bitten, Twice Shy - Great White 1
9. Every Little Step - Bobby Brown 1 (2 weeks)
8. Rocket - Def Leppard 4
7. Stand - REM 1
6. Paradise City - Guns N' Roses 1
5. I Won’t Back Down - Tom Petty 3
4. Cult Of Personality - Living Colour 4
3. Straight Up - Paula Abdul 1
2. She Drives Me Crazy - Fine Young Cannibals 1
1. Like A Prayer - Madonna 1 (2 weeks)

Videos still on the top 20 are marked with asterisks

Only 6 clips spent more than one week at the top, and unlike other years, only 3 were in this year's top 20. 79 (!) in total reached the top 5.
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Postby azul120 » Wed May 10, 2017 3:56 am

Top 100 of 1988 breakdown (by peak; weeks in top 10 if applicable; weeks in top 20; all stats to date)

1. Guns N Roses- Sweet Child O’ Mine (2 weeks at #1; 9; 15)
2. Def Leppard - Pour Some Sugar On Me (2 weeks at #1; 6; 8/9)
3. INXS - Need You Tonight/Mediate (#6; 3; 8)*
4. Aerosmith - Rag Doll (2 weeks at #1; 9; 12)
5. Michael Jackson - Man In The Mirror (2 weeks at #1; 7; 10)
6. Escape Club - Wild Wild West (2 weeks at #1; 8; 13)
7. Bon Jovi - Bad Medicine (#1; 9; 12)
8. George Harrison - Got My Mind Set On You (2 weeks at #1; 9; 13)*
9. Robert Palmer - Simply Irresistible (#1; 9; 14)
10. George Michael - Father Figure (2 weeks at #1; 6; 11)
11. Steve Winwood - Roll With It (#1; 6; 10)
12. Whitney Houston - So Emotional (#1; 8; 12)*
13. U2 - Desire (2 weeks at #1; 8; 13)
14. Brice Springsteen - Tunnel Of Love (#2; 8; 11)***
15. Cheap Trick - The Flame (#2; 6; 9)
16. Def Leppard - Love Bites (2 weeks at #1; 8; 12)
17. INXS - New Sensation (2 weeks at #1; 6; 8)
18. Van Halen - When It’s Love (#1; 8; 11)
19. Michael Jackson - Dirty Diana (#1; 7; 9)
20. Poison - Every Rose Has Its Thorn (#1; 3; 6/7?)**
21. Guns N Roses - Welcome To The Jungle (#2; 4; 7)**
22. DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince - Parents Just Don’t Understand (#6; 3; 6?)
23. UB40 - Red Red Wine (2 weeks at #1; 6; 9)
24. Billy Ocean - Get Out Of My Dreams, Get Into My Car (#1; 6; 9)
25. Elton John - I Don’t Wanna Go On With You Like That (#2; 6; 10)
26. Aerosmith - Angel (3 weeks at #1; 8; 13)
27. Rod Stewart - Lost In You (#3; 5; 7)
28. Joan Jett - I Hate Myself For Loving You (#3; 6; 12)
29. George Michael - One More Try (2 weeks at #1; 7; 10)
30. Def Leppard - Hysteria (2 weeks at #1; 8; 11)
31. Foreigner - Say You Will (2 weeks at #1; 9; 12)***
32. Bangles - Hazy Shade Of Winter (3 weeks at #1; 8; 13)*
33. Cinderella - Don’t Know What You Got Til It’s Gone (#4; 6; 11?)
34. Cheap Trick - Don’t Be Cruel (#1; 9; 13?)
35. INXS- Devil Inside (#1; 8; 12)
36. Michael Jackson - The Way You Make Me Feel (#11; 7)***
37. Richard Marx - Hold On To The Nights (#1; 6; 9)
38. Poison - Nothing But A Good Time (#3; 5; 7)
39. Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up (#2; 5; 9)
40. David Lee Roth - Just Like Paradise (#1; 7; 11)
41. Belinda Carlisle - Heaven Is A Place On Earth (2 weeks at #1; 6; 10)****
42. Hall & Oates - Everything Your Heart Desires (2 weeks at #1; 7; 10)
43. Information Society - Pure Energy (What’s On Your Mind) (#3; 6; 11)
44. Terence Trent D’Arby - Wishing Well (#12; 7)
45. Phil Collins - A Groovy Kind Of Love (#1; 5; 8)
46. Eddie Money - Walk On Water (#2; 6; 9)**
47. Robert Plant - Tall Cool One (#7; 2; 5)
48. George Michael - Faith (#4; 5; 10)***
49. Duran Duran - I Don’t Want Your Love (#1; 7; 11/12)
50. Sting - Be Still My Beating Heart (#2; 8; 12)
51. Bobby McFerrin - Don’t Worry Be Happy (#9; 1; 6)
52. INXS - Never Tear Us Apart (#2; 8; 15)
53. Chicago - Look Away (#3; 4; 6)
54. Whitesnake - Give Me All Your Love (#3; 6; 9)
55. Bruce Springsteen - One Step Up (#3; 5; 8)
56. Poison - Fallen Angel (#3; 7; 12/13)
57. Bobby Brown - My Prerogative (#3; 2; 4/5?)**
58. Paul Carrack - Don’t Shed A Tear (#2; 6; 11)
59. Huey Lewis & The News - Perfect World (#3; 8; 11)
60. Michael Jackson - Smooth Criminal (#7; 2; ?)**+
61. Heart - There’s The Girl (#4; 7; 11)***
62. John Cougar Mel encamp - Check It Out (#5; 4; 11)
63. George Michael - Monkey (#1; 5; 8)
64. Belinda Carlisle - I Get Weak (#3; 6; 9)
65. Europe - Superstitious (#11; 9)
66. Richard Marx - Endless Summer Nights (#2; 8; 11)
67. Prince - Alphabet Street (#3; 3; 6)
68. Rod Stewart - Forever Young (#5; 4; 11)
69. Midnight Oil - Beds Are Burning (#12; 4?)
70. Debbie Gibson - Out Of The Blue (#5; 3; 8)
71. Terence Trent D’Arby- Sign Your Name (#4; 5; 8)
72. Kenny Loggins - Nobody’s Fool (#5; 5; 10)
73. Tracy Chapman - Fast Car (#5; 4; 8)
74. Steve Winwood - Don’t You Know What The Night Can Do (#5; 5; 9/10)
75. Jody Watley - Some Kind Of Lover (#6; 4; 9)
76. Johnny Hates Jazz - Shattered Dreams (#1; 7; 11)
77. Foreigner - I Don’t Wanna Live Without You (#8; 2; 5)
78. Pat Benatar - All Fired Up (#6; 4; 11)
79. OMD - Dreaming (#6; 3; 6)
80. Whitney Houston - Where Do Broken Hearts Go (#2; 7; 9/10)
81. Van Halen - Finish What Ya Started (#4; 5; 8)**
82. Icehouse - Electric Blue (#4; 3; 9)
83. Pet Shop Boys - What Have I Done To Deserve This (#5; 5; 7)
84. Belinda Carlisle - Circle In The Sand (#4; 5; 7?)
85. The Fat Boys with Chubby Checker - The Twist (#5; 3; 8)
86. Henry Lee Summer - I Wish I Had A Girl (#8; 2; 7?)
87. Kylie Minogue - The Loco-Motion (#4; 3; 7)
88. Michael Bolton - Sittin’ On The Dock Of The Bay (#8; 3; 8)
89. Traveling Wilburys - Handle With Care (#12?; 4)**
90. Natalie Cole - Pink Cadillac (#8; 2; 6)
91. Eric Carmen - Hungry Eyes (#9; 2; 5)
92. Pet Shop Boys - Always On My Mind (#8; 1; 6)
93. Cher - I Found Someone (#9; 2; 5)
94. Michael Jackson - Another Part Of Me (#8; 2; 4)
95. Bangles - In Your Room (#5; 3; 6?)**
96. Glen Frey - True Love (#13?; 4)
97. Rick Astley - Together Forever (#10; 2; 5)
98. Vixen - Edge Of A Broken Heart (?)
99. Crowded House - Better Be Home Soon (#11; 8)
100. Keith Richards - Take It So Hard (?)

* Was on the top 100 of '87 and on the top 20 during both years.
** Was still on the top 20.
**+ Was still on the top 20, and would be on the top 100 of '89.
*** Was already on the top 20 but not in the top 100 of '87.
**** Was in the top 100 of '87 but already fell out of the top 20.

Only planned on doing peaks and bullet points, but then the rest kind of followed.
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Postby Kenne » Thu May 11, 2017 12:43 am

Need You Tonight must've got that high ranking because it swept the Video Music Awards that year.
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Postby azul120 » Sat May 13, 2017 11:14 pm

Kenne wrote:Need You Tonight must've got that high ranking because it swept the Video Music Awards that year.
Also, I have a couple theories why it got the early shaft based on some old playlist research. Evidently, "Devil Inside" premiered within the last week and a half of '87, which would have cut Need You Tonight's run in rotation short. Plus, from what I've read, the medley version of NYT that included Mediate was released further down the line, though I have no idea of when. (The lack of Mediate from the MTV playlists where Need You Tonight was on would seem to confirm this.)
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Postby azul120 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:55 am

Right after the end of this (supposed Week in Rock) feature on Duran Duran's return with Big Thing and "I Don't Want Your Love", a mini snippet of the video being introduced on the countdown at #10 (up from #13) by Adam Curry with interview clip on the week of 11/11/88:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvSwF9bix78
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Postby opyopspigorno » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:53 am

I do recall the Top 30 videos from the Top 100 of the 1980s/90s in Sept. 1997

1. Michael Jackson - Thriller
2. Guns n' Roses - Welcome To The Jungle
3. Peter Gabriel - Sledgehammer
4. Madonna - Like A Virgin
5. The Police - Every Breath You take
6. Dire Straits - Money For Nothing
7. ZZ Top - Legs
8. U2 - With Or Without You
9. Van Halen - Jump
10. Duran Duran - Hungry Like The Wolf
11. Def Leppard - Pour Some Sugar On Me
12. Madonna - Like A Prayer
13. INXS - Need you Tonight/Mediate
14. Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead Or Alive
15. a-ha - Take On Me
16. Run DMC - Walk This Way
17. Michael Jackson - Billie Jean
18. Beastie Boys - You Gotta Fight For Your Right (To Party)
19. Bruce Springsteen - Dancin' In The Dark
20. Robert Palmer - Addicted To Love
21. Tom Petty - Free Fallin'
22. Metallica - One
23. Cyndi Lauper - Girls Just Wanna Have Fun
24. John Mellencamp- Jack And Diane
25. Guns n' Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine
26. Billy Idol - Dancin' With Myself
27. Janet Jackson - Rhythm Nation
28. The Cars - You Might Think
29. Aerosmith - Dude (Looks Like A Lady)
30. Michael Jackson - Beat It

1. Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit
2. Beastie Boys - Sabotage
3. Puff Daddy - I'll be Missing You
4. Red Hot Chili Peppers - Under The Bridge
5. Guns n' Roses - November Rain
6. Madonna - Vogue
7. Alanis Morissette - Ironic
8. Nine Inch Nails - Closer
9. No Doubt - Don't Speak
10. Aerosmith - Janie's Got a Gun
11. Dr. Dre - Nuthin' But A 'G' Thang
12. Metallica - Enter Sandman
13. Smashing Pumpkins - Tonight Tonight
14. Boyz II Men - I'll Make Love To You
15. Pearl Jam - Jeremy
16. Notorious B.I.G. - Hypnotize
17. Van Halen - Right Now
18. TLC - Waterfalls
19. R.E.M. - Losing My Religion
20. Aerosmith - Cryin'
21. Mariah Carey w/Boyz II Men - One Sweet Day
22. Nirvana - Heart Shaped Box
23. Dr. Dre - California Love
24. Red Hot Chili Peppers - Give It Away
25. Will Smith - Men in Black
26. U2 - One
27. Alanis Morissette - You Oughtta Know
28. Wallflowers - One Headlight
29. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Gin And Juice
30. Stone Temple Pilots - Plush
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Postby azul120 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:57 am

The 80s one is pretty accurate, but the 90s one is off. No Rain was definitely 61, and I'll Make Love to You was one spot below Tonight Tonight.
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Postby Kenne » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:46 am

I don't think Uptown Girl was that high at #26, I remember it being on the countdown but not at that position. I thought maybe Dancing With Myself was at that position, but I could be wrong.
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Postby azul120 » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:14 am

Yep. Dancing With Myself was definitely top 30.
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Postby azul120 » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:41 pm

One Good Reason by Paul Carrack at #12:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwrEHUvmw2s

ETA: Mark Goodman on Friday, 8/27/84 throwing out a bump for the Top 20, mentioning "Missing You" by John Waite having spent a third week at #1, with Scandal's "The Warrior" at its heels at #2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e37MmNQhAbc
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Postby azul120 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:39 am

Here's the Top 20 countdown from 1/27/89, shot at Colorado:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=behpGOUudbQ

With that I'm reconstructing that and the adjacent weeks:

Week of 1/20/89:
1) (+2) (?) Phil Collins - "Two Hearts" (1 week at #1)
2) (+3) (?) Def Leppard - "Armageddon It" (#2)
3) (-2) (?) Bobby Brown - "My Prerogative" (1 week at #1)
4) (+4) (3) White Lion - "When the Children Cry" (#4)
5) (+5) (4) Bon Jovi - "Born to Be My Baby" (#5)
6) (+3) (?) Joan Jett and the Blackhearts - "Little Liar" (#6)
7) (+4?) (?) Steve Winwood - "Holding On" (#7)
8) (-6) (?) Michael Jackson - "Smooth Criminal" (#2)
9) (+?) (3) U2 - "Angel of Harlem" (#9)
10?) (-6) (?) The Bangles - "In Your Room" (#4)
11?) (?) (?) Pink Floyd - "Comfortably Numb" (#11) PF was still in heavy rotation (9th and final week in rotation)
12) (-6) (?) Poison - "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" (2 weeks at #1)
13) (+?) (2?) Taylor Dayne - "Don't Rush Me" (#13)
14) (-7) (8) Traveling Wilburys - "Handle With Care" (#7)
15) (+5) (2) Tone Loc - "Wild Thing" (#15)
16?)
17) (Debut) (1) Guns 'n' Roses - "Paradise City" (#17)
18) (Debut) (1) The Escape Club - "Shake for the Sheik" (#18)
19) (Debut) (1) Edie Brickell & New Bohemians - "What I Am" (#19)
20) (Debut) (1) Information Society - "Walking Away" (#20)

Week of 1/27/89 (from above YouTube link):
1) (+1) (?) Def Leppard - "Armageddon It" (1 week at #1)
2) (+2) (4) White Lion - "When the Children Cry" (#2)
3) (-2) (?) Phil Collins - "Two Hearts" (1 week at #1)
4) (+1) (5) Bon Jovi - "Born to Be My Baby" (#4)
5) (+2) (?) Steve Winwood - "Holding On" (#5)
6) (+3) (4) U2 - "Angel of Harlem" (#6)
7) (-4) (?) Bobby Brown - "My Prerogative" (1 week at #1)
8) (+5) (3?) Taylor Dayne - "Don't Rush Me" (#8)
9) (+6) (3) Tone Loc - "Wild Thing" (#9)
10) (+7) (2) Guns 'n' Roses - "Paradise City" (#10)
11) (-5) (?) Joan Jett and the Blackhearts - "Little Liar" (#6)
12) (+7) (2) Edie Brickell & New Bohemians - "What I Am" (#12)
13) (+7) (2) Information Society - "Walking Away" (#13)
14) (+4) (2) The Escape Club - "Shake for the Sheik" (#14)
15) (-7) (?) Michael Jackson - "Smooth Criminal" (#2)
16) (Debut) (1) Samantha Fox - "I Wanna Have Some Fun" (#16)
17) (Debut) (1) Rod Stewart - "My Heart Can't Tell You No" (#17)
18) (Debut) (1) Paula Abdul - "Straight Up" (#18)
19) (-7) (?) Poison - "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" (2 weeks at #1)
20) (Debut) (1) Duran Duran - "All She Wants Is" (#20)

Week of 2/3/89:
1) (+1) (5) White Lion - "When the Children Cry" (1 week at #1)
2) (+2) (6?) Bon Jovi - "Born to Be My Baby" (#2)
3) (+3?) (5) U2 - "Angel of Harlem" (#3)
4) (+1) (?) Steve Winwood - "Holding On" (#4)
5) (+4) (4) Tone Loc - "Wild Thing" (#5)
6) (-5) (8/9?) Def Leppard - "Armageddon It" (1 week at #1)
7) (+5) (3) Edie Brickell and New Bohemians - "What I Am" (#7)
8) (+2) (3) Guns 'n' Roses - "Paradise City" (#8)
9) (+5) (3) The Escape Club - "Shake for the Sheik" (#9)
10) (+6) (2) Samantha Fox - "I Wanna Have Some Fun" (#10)
11?) (+2?) (3) Information Society - "Walking Away" (#11?)
12?) (-9?) (?) Phil Collins - "Two Hearts" (1 week at #1)
13?) (+5?) (2) Paula Abdul - "Straight Up" (#12)
14) (-7?) (?) Bobby Brown - "My Prerogative" (1 week at #1)
15?) (+2?) (2) Rod Stewart - "My Heart Can't Tell You No" (#15?)
16?) (-8?) (4?) Taylor Dayne - "Don't Rush Me" (#8)
17?) (+3?) (2) Duran Duran - "All She Wants Is" (#17?)
18?)
19) (Debut) (1) Living Colour - "Cult of Personality" (#19)
20) (Debut) (1) Michael Jackson - "Leave Me Alone" (#20)

Notice how they did recaps even though they were doing a remote edition. Just a year later they NEVER did recaps, pre-taped interview clips, pre-commercial flashbacks, etc. on special remote editions of the countdown. Also, there was an ad for Mardi Gras weekend, which was the following weekend of 2/3, meaning OwenMeany was off by a week. Not to mention that Living Colour hadn't made it on the countdown at this point, meaning that weekend would mark its debut at #19 (along with "Leave Me Alone" from Michael Jackson at #20).

Here's the end of 5/29 (#1 and #2 with recap of top 10), with Mark Goodman concluding that there were 11 acts moving up on the chart, and 3 debuts from "rock veterans", and possibility of debuts from Bob Seger's "Shakedown" and Kim Wilde's "You Keep Me Hangin' On" the following week, meaning the latter hadn't actually charted yet. I'm guessing Kim actually debuted the following week of 6/5 at #17 if the estimates there are correct. #20 and #19 for 5/27 meanwhile in either order would be "Meet Me Halfway" by Kenny Loggins, and, personal guess, "Why Can't This Night Go On Forever" by Journey, which was in heavy rotation at that moment but would disappear from the MTV playlists the following week, likely resulting in a blink and you'll miss it one week charting. Both would have qualified as rock veterans, alongside Heart, who would have had the highest debut of the week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA6HEWUprVM
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Postby azul120 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:14 am

Top 100 of 1990 breakdown (by peak; weeks in top 10 if applicable; weeks in top 20; all stats to date)

1) MC Hammer - U Can't Touch This (3 weeks at #1; 7; 10)
2) Billy Idol - Cradle of Love (3 weeks at #1; 12; 17)
3) Madonna - Vogue (2 weeks at #1; 8; 10)
4) Aerosmith - Janie's Got a Gun (2 weeks at #1; 10; 13)*
5) Paula Abdul - Opposites Attract (2 weeks at #1; 7; 11)
6) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U (3 weeks at #1; 8; 10)
7) Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby (2 weeks at #1; 7; 10)
8) Jon Bon Jovi - Blaze Of Glory (3 weeks at #1; 10; 13)
9) Janet Jackson - Escapade (#1; 9; 11)
10) Motley Crue - Don't Go Away Mad (Just Go Away) (#3; 6; 10)
11) Poison - Something To Believe In (3 weeks at #1; 9; 13)
12) Wilson Phillips - Hold On (#1; 9; 13)
13) Skid Row - I Remember You (#3; 7; 10)*
14) Nelson - (Can't Live Without Your) Love and Affection (#1; 9; 12)
15) Faith No More - Epic (#3; 7; 13)
16) The B-52s - Roam (2 weeks at #1; 10; 14)
17) Slaughter - Fly to the Angels (#6; 3; 10)
18) Janet Jackson - Black Cat (3 weeks at #1; 8; 11)
19) Aerosmith - What It Takes (#2; 8; 10)
20) Bell Biv Devoe - Poison (#3; 5; 8)
21) Motley Crue - Without You (#2; 7; 10)
22) Roxette - It Must Have Been Love (#1; 6; 10)
23) MC Hammer - Pray (#1; 6; 10)
24) Phil Collins - Something Happened on the Way to Heaven (#2; 5; 8)
25) Poison - Unskinny Bop (2 weeks at #1; 9; 12)
26) Heart - All I Wanna Do Is Make Love To You (#2; 7; 10)
27) Jane Child - Don't Wanna Fall In Love (#1; 7; 10)
28) Aerosmith - The Other Side (#1; 8; 11)
29) Glenn Medeiros featuring Bobby Brown - She Ain't Worth It (2 weeks at #1; 5; 8)
30) Depeche Mode - Enjoy the Silence (#2; 6; 9)
31) Motley Crue - Same Ol' Situation (#2; 4; 8)
32) Janet Jackson - Alright (#2; 6; 8)
33) Rod Stewart - Downtown Train (2 weeks at #1; 8; 12)*
34) Bell Biv DeVoe - Do Me! (#2; 4; 7)
35) Jon Bon Jovi - Miracle (#1; 9; 11)
36) Phil Collins - I Wish It Would Rain Down (#1; 6; 10)
37) INXS - Suicide Blonde (#4; 5; 8)
38) Wilson Phillips - Release Me (#2; 5; 10)
39) Snap! - The Power (#2; 6; 9)
40) Warrant - Sometimes She Cries (#5; 5; 10)
41) George Michael - Freedom (#3; 4; 6)
42) Winger - Miles Away (#2; 6; 9; would spend 3 more weeks in the top 10 and 4 more weeks total on the chart)
43) Janet Jackson - Love Will Never Do (Without You) (#1; 4; 8; would spend 2 more weeks in the top 10 and 4 more weeks total on the chart)
44) Alannah Myles - Black Velvet (#1; 7; 10)
45) Tom Petty - Free Fallin' (2 weeks at #1; 11; 15; 1 week on top, 5 weeks in top 10 and total of 7 weeks spenton chart in 1990)*
46) Roxette - Dangerous (#3; 7; 12)
47) Kiss - Forever (#4; 4; 10)
48) Depeche Mode - Policy Of Truth (#3; 5; 8)
49) Damn Yankees - High Enough (#1; 7; 9; was at #3 and spent 4 weeks on chart so far)*
50) Technotronic featuring Felly - Pump Up The Jam (#14; 3)
51) Heart - Stranded (#3; 6; 9)
52) Billy Joel - I Go to Extremes (#2; 7; 10)
53) Madonna - Oh Father (#5; 4; 7)
54) UB40 - The Way You Do The Things You Do (#7; 4; 9)
55) Motley Crue - Kickstart My Heart (#9; 2; 6)
56) Janet Jackson - Come Back To Me (#2; 8; 10)
57) Deee-Lite - Groove Is in the Heart (#5; 4; 10)
58) Warrant - Cherry Pie (#7; 4; 6)
59) New Kids On The Block - Step By Step (#1; 5; 7)
60) Wilson Phillips - Impulsive (#1; 9; 12; last 2 weeks were in 1991)
61) MC Hammer - Have You Seen Her (#3; 4; 7)
62) Paula Abdul - Knocked Out (Remix) (#9; 2; 6)
63) Don Henley - The Heart Of The Matter (#7; 4; 8)
64) Technotronic - Get Up! (Before the Night Is Over) (#3; 4; 9)
65) Phil Collins - Do You Remember (#4; 6; 9)
66) Maxi Priest - Close To You (#5; 4; 7)
67) Black Crowes - Hard To Handle (#12; 4; would peak at #10 and spend 7 weeks total on chart)
68) Whitney Houston - I'm Your Baby Tonight (#3; 5; 7)
69) Bad English - Price Of Love (#2; 7; 9)
70) Concrete Blonde - Joey (#10; 1; 6)
71) Richard Marx - Too Late to Say Goodbye (#7; 3; 6)
72) Digital Underground - The Humpty Dance (#11; 2)
73) Winger - Can't Get Enuff (#18; 2)
74) Billy Idol - L.A. Woman (#16; 4)
75) Janet Jackson - Rhythm Nation (#2; 7; 12; was #3 at start of year and was on the chart the first 4 weeks of 1990)
76) Alias - More Than Words Can Say (#8; 2; 5)
77) D-Mob featuring Cathy Dennis - C'mon and Get My Love (#7; 1; 7)
78) Michael Penn - No Myth (#5; 4; 11)
79) Daryl Hall and John Oates - So Close (#5; 5; 8)
80) Rolling Stones - Rock and A Hard Place (#1; 7; 10; came from '89, was only on the chart for the first 2 weeks of 1990)*
81) DNA featuring Suzanne Vega - Tom's Diner (#4; 5; 9; was at #4 that very last week of the year, having spent 6 weeks so far on countdown)
82) Tesla - Love Song (#7; 4; 9)
83) Lou Gramm - Just Between You and Me (#4; 7; 10; first 4 weeks were in 1989, including first 2 weeks in top 10)
84) Nelson - After the Rain (#1; 9; 13; was at #6 and had been on chart for 5 weeks at that point)
85) Queensrÿche - Empire (#18; 3)
86) Eric Clapton - Pretending (#12; 6)
87) Sinead O'Connor - The Emperor's New Clothes (#13; 6)
88) Robert Plant - Hurting Kind (#10; 1; 6)
89) The Time - Jerk Out (#2; 6; 8)
90) ZZ Top - Double Back (#15; 3)
91) Midnight Oil - Blue Sky Mine (#12; 6)
92) Joan Jett - Dirty Deeds (#8; 3; 8)
93) Johnny Gill - Rub You the Right Way (#2; 5; 7)
94) Cheap Trick - Can't Stop Falling in Love (#12; 8)
95) Iggy Pop f/ Kate Pierson - Candy (did not chart yet; would peak at #11 and spend 6 weeks on the chart in the new year)
96) Taylor Dayne - With Every Beat of My Heart (#7; 2; 7; was on the chart for only the first week of the year)
97) Bruce Hornsby and the Range - Across the River (#7; 4; 8)
98) Living Colour - Type (Everything Is Possible) (#13; 6)
99) Public Enemy - 911 Is a Joke (did not chart)
100) Phil Collins - Hang in Long Enough (#10; 1; 6)

Just 68 videos to go top 5 within the year on the list (not counting one or two (i. e. Michael Bolton) that did not make the list despite not suffering any yearly cutoff). Lots more staying power from this point on.
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Postby azul120 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:30 am

Top 100 of '91 breakdown:

1) Guns n' Roses - You Could Be Mine (2 weeks at #1; 11; 15)
2) R.E.M. - Losing My Religion (#1; 9; 13)
3) Bryan Adams - Everything I Do (I Do It For You) (3 weeks at #1; 10; 12)
4) Queensrÿche - Silent Lucidity (2 weeks at #1; 7; 12)
5) Mariah Carey - Someday (2 weeks at #1; 7; 11)
6) EMF - Unbelievable (2 weeks at #1; 9; 12)
7) Extreme - More Than Words (2 weeks at #1; 8; 11)
8) C+C Music Factory - Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now) (3 weeks at #1; 9; 12)
9) Metallica - Enter Sandman (2 weeks at #1; 8; 13)
10) Paula Abdul - Rush Rush (3 weeks at #1; 7; 9)
11) Jesus Jones - Right Here, Right Now (#1; 10; 13)
12) Tesla - Signs (2 weeks at #1; 10; 13)
13) Michael Jackson - Black or White (3 weeks at #1; 6; 7)
14) Guns n' Roses - Don't Cry (2 weeks at #1; 6; 8)
15) Color Me Badd - I Wanna Sex You Up (#1; 7; 11)
16) Scorpions - Wind of Change (#3; 7; 13)
17) Boyz II Men - Motownphilly (#2; 7; 11)
18) Chris Isaak - Wicked Game (#1; 8; 11)
19) Extreme - Hole Hearted (#1; 7; 13)
20) Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch - Good Vibrations (2 weeks at #1; 7; 10)
21) Van Halen - Top of the World (#2; 6; 9)
22) Prince - Cream (#1; 6; 8)
23) Warrant - I Saw Red (#2; 9; 13)
24) Naughty By Nature - O.P.P. (#2; 5; 8)
25) Black Crowes - She Talks To Angels (#3; 5; 9)
26) C+C Music Factory - Here We Go (Let's Rock and Roll) (#1; 8; 12)
27) Firehouse - Love of a Lifetime (#3; 7; 13)
28) Jane's Addiction - Been Caught Stealing (#17; 2)
29) DJ Jazzy Jeff and The Fresh Prince - Summertime (#1; 8; 10)
30) Motley Crue - Home Sweet Home '91 (#5; 3; 8; was #6 as of end of year)
31) Wilson Phillips - You're In Love (#1; 9; 12)
32) INXS - Disappear (#3; 9; 14)
33) Salt-N-Pepa - Let's Talk About Sex (#4; 8; 8)
34) Poison - Ride the Wind (#5; 5; 10)
35) Mariah Carey - I Don't Wanna Cry (#2; 7; 11)
36) Jesus Jones - Real Real Real (#3; 8; 10)
37) Madonna - Like a Virgin (Live) (#19; 2)
38) Nelson - After the Rain (#1; 9; 13)
39) LL Cool J - Mama Said Knock You Out (#6; 4; 9)
40) Black Crowes - Hard to Handle (#10; 1; 7)
41) Londonbeat - I've Been Thinking About You (#1; 8; 10)
42) Warrant - Uncle Tom's Cabin (#4; 6; 12)
43) Hammer - Addams Groove (#5; 3; 8)
44) Bryan Adams - Can't Stop This Thing We Started (#2; 8; 12)
45) Roxette - Joyride (#1; 8; 10)
46) Van Halen - Run Around (#3; 6; 8)
47) Janet Jackson - Love Will Never Do (Without You) (#1; 6; 12)
48) Firehouse - Don't Treat Me Bad (#4; 4; 8)
49) PM Dawn - Set Adrift on Memory Bliss (#2; 3; 8)
50) Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers - Into the Great Wide Open (#11; 10)
51) Paula Abdul - The Promise of a New Day (#1; 6; 8)
52) Guns n' Roses - Live and Let Die (had just debuted at #12; would spend 2 weeks at #1, 8 weeks in top 10 and 11 weeks in total on chart)
53) Color Me Badd - I Adore Mi Amor (#2; 5; 8)
54) Genesis - No Son of Mine (#2; 4; 9)
55) Another Bad Creation - Playground (#9; 2; 5)
56) Damn Yankees - High Enough (#1; 7; 9)
57) C+C Music Factory - Things That Make You Go Hmmm (#4; 6; 9)
58) EMF - Lies (#6; 4; 10)
59) Mariah Carey - Emotions (#1; 5; 8)
60) Metallica - The Unforgiven (was in 3rd week at #8; would reach #1 and spend 9 weeks on chart, 6 weeks in top 10)
61) Salt-N-Pepa - Do You Want Me (#7; 2; 6)
62) R.E.M. - Shiny Happy People (#12; 7)
63) Tevin Campbell - Round and Round (#9; 1; 7)
64) Van Halen - Poundcake (#4; 6; 8)
65) Amy Grant - Baby Baby (#8; 2; 6)
66) Nelson - More Than Ever (#6; 4; 9)
67) Heavy D and the Boyz - Now That We Found Love (#11; 5)
68) U2 - Mysterious Ways (was in 3rd week at #4; would peak at #2 and spend 11 weeks on chart, 8 weeks in top 10)
69) Bell Biv Devoe f/ Bobby Brown & Johnny Gill - Word to the Mutha (#11; 6)
70) Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit (was in 2nd week at #14; would spend 2 weeks at #1, 11 weeks on chart, 6 weeks in top 10)
71) Paula Abdul - Blowing Kisses in the Wind (#2; 3; 6)
72) Winger - Miles Away (#2; 9; 13)
73) Hammer - 2 Legit 2 Quit (#13; 2; would return for 3 weeks in new year and peak at #9)
74) Motley Crue - Primal Scream (#7; 3; 9)
75) Boyz II Men - It's So Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday (#4; 3; 8)
76) John Mellencamp - Get a Leg Up (#5; 5; 9)
77) Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch - Wildside (was in 5th week at #3; would reach #1 and spend total of 6 weeks in top 10 and 10 weeks on chart)
78) Queensrÿche - Jet City Woman (#10; 1; 8)
79) Urban Dance Squad - Deeper Shade of Soul (#20; 1)
80) Rod Stewart - Rhythm of My Heart (#6; 6; 11)
81) Gerardo - Rico Suave (#10; 6)
82) Poison - Life Goes On (#3; 5; 10)
83) Karyn White - Romantic (#13; 4)
84) INXS - Bitter Tears (#8; 4; 8)
85) Prince - Gett Off (did not chart)
86) Cinderella - Heartbreak Station (#10; 1; 10)
87) Tara Kemp - Hold You Tight (#9; 1; 4)
88) R.E.M. w/ KRS-One - Radio Song (#16; 4)
89) Aerosmith - Sweet Emotion (was in 2nd week at #10; would peak at #6 and spend 7 weeks in top 10 and 9 weeks on top 20)
90) Another Bad Creation - Iesha (did not chart)
91) Sting - All This Time (#5; 8; 10)
92) Color Me Badd - All For Love (was in 4th week at #9; would peak at #6 and spend 7 weeks in total on countdown)
93) AC/DC - Moneytalks (#4; 6; 9)
94) Seal - Crazy (#5; 3; 7)
95) Anthrax f/ Public Enemy - Bring the Noise (did not chart)
96) Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers - Learning to Fly (#13; 5)
97) Bingoboys - Show Me How to Dance (#18; 2)
98) Divinyls - I Touch Myself (#9; 1; 6)
99) KLF - 3AM Eternal (#15; 2)
100) Steelheart - I'll Never Let You Go (#8; 2; 9)

Only 61 videos in the top 100 made the top 5.
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Postby Kenne » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:43 pm

Was Pink Floyd's "Comfortably Numb" a re-issue or was it the original? I'm surprised to see it chart in '89 as that song would've been around 10 years old at that time.
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Postby azul120 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:15 am

Live video from Delicate Sound of Thunder.
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Postby OwenMeany33 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:28 am

azul120 wrote:Live video from Delicate Sound of Thunder.
Thanks for the upload of those 3 charts. That is HUGE!. Sorry about Living Colour and Michael. I was right about the chart positions off by a week with countdown. I thought it was 1/27 that's when they do Mardi Gras. I will try to retrace my steps forward and back with those 3 weeks. Good Stuff!!!!

Delicate Sound of Thunder peaked at 11 sometime in December

For the week of 2/3/89 is that an estimated chart you composed?
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Postby azul120 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:05 pm

2/3 was an estimate.

My 1/20 guess for "Comfortably Numb" at #11 that week was based on it having its final week of MTV rotation that week, which was also its 9th week in total on the channel. Though that as easily be attributed to a minimal run quota, as MTV had sometimes been given to doing. Still, around that time MTV seemingly trended towards keeping videos in their rotation lists until they fell off the chart, unless it was, say, Bon Jovi, or Paula Abdul, in which case they'd either get more time up until their next video was added into rotation (i. e. "I'll Be There for You" staying on the Heavy list after it fell off the chart, disappearing when "Lay Your Hands On Me" debuted).
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