Chechen authorities tell parents: 'Kill your gay sons..."

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Postby Serby » Sat May 06, 2017 8:12 pm

Hugo wrote:It's our fault, gays have been too distracted by sex apps and stuff like that, the current generation doesn't know how to protest and show indignation. Our leaders won't fight for us.
Sis, no. Easy to protest in our nice, Western countries in 2017. Do it in Serbia or wherelse that is mentally still in 15th century and it's no good.

This is really awful, the fuhck. :evil: :cry:
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Postby MrDiva » Sat May 06, 2017 8:19 pm

I agree

Yes the new generation of gays is less >>aware<< I feel
But that has nothing to do with that topic.
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Postby MusicRecords » Sat May 06, 2017 8:26 pm

I thought that back in the day it was actually pretty hard to protest or come out as gay...even in places like the US...so if anything isn't it actually easier now than back then? :-?

Anyway, that's terrible I can't believe that man was able to throw his nephew from a balcony and just be okay with it like wtf
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Postby MrDiva » Sat May 06, 2017 8:30 pm

I think Hugo was really talking about the awareness that gay people had
That they fought for their rights and did not take their rights for granted

I still honk it makes no sense in this case
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Postby MusicRecords » Sat May 06, 2017 8:42 pm

^i mean there's two sides to it cause back then no way in hell I would come out and be one of those brave people who would protest and be possibly killed, I would just stay in the closet if we were in older times.

However, even now I think it's also the fact that some parts of the world are way more accepting so some people just don't feel the need to protest in their country because they feel accepted already. That's the case for me cause in the US it's all good at least now and I have never been to a gay parade or protest, and I even hardly ever interact with the gay community...it's not because I don't want to support gay rights but because I find those events just disgusting in the way that so many guys are wanting to hook up and what not :lol: it's like okay it's one thing to protest and another to be a whore :lol: can't speak for everyone but in the US it's a bit like that...I would go to a regular/straight bar anytime over a gay one...also I am actually okay with people not accepting gays as long as they keep it all to themselves and don't cause violence or discrimination, kinda like okay to each their own kinda thing when u don't agree with something, it's your opinion but u just let it go and let other people be.....some gays in the US have it too easy and they just want people to actually change their views to accept gays completely as in changing their religious beliefs for that. Like I said some people deeply don't think it's good but they let people be and treat them like anyone else, but some gay people here are even mad at that and want people to even change their religion just for them :lol: like wtf

But overall yes something needs to be done about other countries, but at the same time when u live in a country like that wouldn't u be scared of protesting for rights or coming out and being killed like that poor guy? I definitely would be :o
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Postby MrDiva » Sat May 06, 2017 9:04 pm

Of course I would be.
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Postby MillionLights » Sat May 06, 2017 9:15 pm

Serby wrote:
Hugo wrote:It's our fault, gays have been too distracted by sex apps and stuff like that, the current generation doesn't know how to protest and show indignation. Our leaders won't fight for us.
Sis, no. Easy to protest in our nice, Western countries in 2017. Do it in Serbia or wherelse that is mentally still in 15th century and it's no good.

This is really awful, the fuhck. :evil: :cry:
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Same here, but I live in Macedonia
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Postby Fan » Sun May 07, 2017 6:38 am

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Hugo wrote:It's our fault, gays have been too distracted by sex apps and stuff like that, the current generation doesn't know how to protest and show indignation. Our leaders won't fight for us.
I hope you're joking. I know as a current teenager I've been to protests and have had an active role in the community against discrimination, as have many of my friends. I really don't think gay sex apps are gonna make it so people decide injustice is alright. Girl.
^Totally agree.
I know a lot of young people who are activly involved in the community and try to make it a better and more accepting place for everyone. And that has nothing to do with sex apps :roll: You could use those apps and still be involved.
And when talking about those apps, Grindr is pretty involved in this whole situation, they are sending warning messages to people at risk in the area and working together with Russian LGBT organisations.
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Postby jpguy » Mon May 15, 2017 10:45 pm

I only watched this in a local newspaper, it had 1 page - I wish more media would pick on this
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Postby Wayne » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:23 pm

A Russian singer reportedly arrested as part of Chechnya’s anti-gay crackdown was murdered shortly after being detained, a source tell NewNowNext.

Zelimkhan Bakaev was last seen on August 8 in Grozny, where he had come from Moscow for his sister’s wedding. His family say they haven’t heard from him since and have been unable to get answers about his fate.
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Postby joiPrince_JO » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:58 pm

^ Unbelievable that stuff like this is happening in 2017 and the whole world is watching.
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Postby MusicRecords » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:02 pm

Fkn disgusting :evil:
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Postby Wayne » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:34 pm

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Chechnya’s first openly gay man forced to apologise on national TV

The first man to publicly come out as gay in Chechnya has revealed he was publicly shamed and forced to take back his comments.

Mover Eskarkhanov received death threats and was forced to apologise on national television after he told Time magazine that he was gay. 
Chechnya was condemned by world leaders and LGBT activists after the news of “gay concentration camps” in the republic reached the international press in April 2017.

He told Time: “They tell me that a demon lives inside me. It’s getting worse here. Before somebody kills me, I want to tell my story to the world.”

Following the interview, authorities forced him to apologise on national television, claiming his “coming out” was made under the influence of epilepsy medication.

Chechens were told Mr Eskarkhanov is mentally ill and that he had been brainwashed by Westerners.

“They disgraced me before the Chechen people and the Chechen leader, I was framed,” he told Grozny TV.

“That’s why I apologise to the residents of Chechnya, the leadership of Chechnya, the Chechens living in the North Caucasus and Europe.”

The report labeled him as a “mentally-ill person” and blamed the Western media for sensationalising his story.

He is now living as a refugee in Germany, having been forced out of his homeland.

“They made it clear that if I continue to talk, there would be problems,” he told Kavkazsky Uzel.

“They said that I must first think about my family.”

It was reported by pro-democracy Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta that gay and bi men had been rounded up in a “purge” and were being abused, tortured and killed in the camps.

Elena Milashina, a journalist for Novaya Gazeta, uncovered evidence of campaign of abuse against gay men in Chechnya that shocked the world. It was recently revealed she is to be honoured by Harvard for her bravery.

Another victim, Maxim Lyapunov, described being held for 12 days in a blood-soaked cell, beaten with sticks and humiliated by police in a shocking report.

The 30-year-old says he was grabbed by two men in the middle of the night and dragged into the back of car.

Despite reporting his lengthy ordeal to authorities, Mr Lapunov says there has been no investigation into what happened.

Instead police forced him to name another man, interrogated and beat him.

“They burst in every 10 or 15 minutes shouting that I was gay and they would kill me,” he said, speaking at a small gathering in Moscow convened by human rights activists reported by the BBC.

“Then they beat me with a stick for a long time: in the legs, ribs, buttocks and back. When I started to fall, they pulled me up and carried on,” he said quietly.

“Every day they assured me they would kill me, and told me how.”

Mr Lapunov says he was barely able to walk by the time police let him go.

“I could barely crawl when I left,” he told the human rights gathering, adding that the groans and screams of other detainees continue to give him nightmares.

“It should not be like this. We are all people. We all have rights,” he said.

“If those rights can be violated [in Chechnya], it could happen in any region. And no-one knows whose son or daughter will be next.”

The Russian LGBT Network has published reports of numerous testimonies from people who have experienced persecution and abuse in Chechnya.

Despite the testimonies, Chechen president Ramzan Kadyrov dismissed them as “nonsense” invented by “devils” and claims there are “no gays” in the state.

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Postby Serby » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:49 pm

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Postby Jesper » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:38 am

I am speechless I don't even know what to properly say
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Postby Fan » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:27 pm

Lost for words. And why isn't the world or the UN or I don't know who not doing anything?
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Postby KEY9481 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:48 pm

And what is any international authority doing? Nothing.
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Postby stevyy » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:08 pm

KEY9481 wrote:And what is any international authority doing? Nothing.
apart from this horrible crime against human rights...

the world is also not reacting to the latest African slave trade outbreak.

Honestly, topics like these deserve more media attention.
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Postby spiritboy » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:31 pm

Russia can put an end to this if it wants but we all know Putin's views on this subject.

And every artist who supports LGBT community but gives concert in Russia is a big hypocrite imo.
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Postby CandyShop » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:58 pm

spiritboy wrote:
And every artist who supports LGBT community but gives concert in Russia is a big hypocrite imo.
It’s not like they go to Russia to play for Putin pleasure !!

It’s fans who attend the concerts: why deny them the chance to see their idol because of political governments point of view??

Giving a show there, It’s rather an act of courage than an hypocrite moves, for me.
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Postby spiritboy » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:13 pm

CandyShop wrote:
spiritboy wrote:
And every artist who supports LGBT community but gives concert in Russia is a big hypocrite imo.
It’s not like they go to Russia to play for Putin pleasure !!

It’s fans who attend the concerts: why deny them the chance to see their idol because of political governments point of view??

Giving a show there, It’s rather an act of courage than an hypocrite moves, for me.
Well, Lorde canceled her Israel concert because of political point of view yet she is going to Russia. Isn't that hypocrisy?
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