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Postby DnBLover » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:46 pm

SZA shitting on the pop girls.
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Postby Hugo » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:54 pm

^

But the album hasn't shifted 90k yet in the US so the 500k figure might appear misleading, she's doing good on streaming though.
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Postby DnBLover » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:16 pm

Hugo wrote:^

But the album hasn't shifted 90k yet in the US so the 500k figure might appear misleading, she's doing good on streaming though.
Let's compare for a second he amount of money invested on this girl compared to Katies, Demis and company. This girl based on hype, with nothing but a slow-burner streaming hit, has a Gold album. The highest promotion she got was a radio tour and a Jimmy Fallon Performance or something. And she's crushing it. Even Maroon 5 are jumping onto her streaming power to get a hit.

She literally came out of nowhere. And she's more successful than most pop acts. And she's doing her own thing, without hot producers and payola and none of that business bullshit.
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Postby Hugo » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:33 pm

I get that, but it's not like she just landed on the scene this year, she's been collaborating with the likes of Kendrick and Chance the Rapper since 2014 and she caters to an audience that still buys albums.

And when you're a new act, from a fan standpoint there's not a lot of music to pick from, if people like you, then they're bound to play the only thing available at that point. That's why it's always so hard to surpass the debut/breakthrough album.

Demi's currently on her 6th album, that's the same number of albums released as Beyoncé, and Katy's on her fourth, it's not really fair to compare. Remember Lorde and Lana? Now those debut albums were stratospheric, they outsold most household names, but what followed could never reach that same level. So let's wait before we hail her as a phenomenon.

It's currently the 118th best selling album of the year in the US (86k). To put its pure sales into perspective, 21 (an album from 2011) has sold more copies with 91k.

Before anyone here calls me a hater (lord knows it's become a habit lol), I think she's doing great, but it's sort of a Cardi B situation, people see these impressive numbers and immediately exaggerate the level of success at hand.
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Postby ThaInfo1 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:28 pm

Hugo wrote: So let's wait before we hail her as a phenomenon.
I disagree. You have to compare her to people that she is comparable with. Like Tinashe, Jhene Aiko etc...any type of alternate R&B female artist (who all have done mixtape prior to their debut album as well). And while Jhene has had some success, Tinashe has only had one song that was hot and album that sold triple pancake (love ha tho).

I think SZA's success, while yes isn't super ground shaking form an overall pop level, but I would consider it a phenomenal success compared to her competitors, and the market that she is...that doesn't buy music. They might buy hip hop albums (which yes, she has a hip hop backing label support), but R&B albums? When was the last huge R&B female album that wasn't Bey or Rih (who are technically pop stars now due to their catastrophic success)?

And honestly, We are in the streaming era. That counts now...no matter how any one feels. That a major way of how music is consumed. A lot of folks don't buy albums anymore...hell I don't. So I don't think it's fair to try and hold her actual album sales to her streaming counted sales against her.
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Postby DnBLover » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:18 am

I surely did not hail her as anything. I just highlighted her organic success compared to failed investments in the plastic pop world.
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Postby Loveguru » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:22 am

She has one of the biggest Albums of the year whether you like it not
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Postby Nippian93 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:32 pm

Billboard Hot 100: #36(-3) Love Galore, @sza Feat. @trvisXX [18 weeks].

Billboard Hot 100: #47(+1) The Weekend, @sza [11 weeks]. *new peak*
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Postby Nippian93 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:07 pm

Billboard Hot 100: #45(+2) The Weekend, @sza [12 weeks]. *new peak*

Billboard Hot 100: #41(-5) Love Galore, @sza Feat. @trvisXX [19 weeks].
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Postby Nippian93 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:09 pm

US pure album sales: @sza, CTRL 1,925 (93,543 total).
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Postby Loose » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:19 am

I gave it a spin but I don't think it is as innovative as people point it out to be. Its got a lot of swag and nice beats but I can't remember any standout tracks.
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Postby ThaInfo1 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:14 am

^Praying for your taste sis.

No album has top this album for me this year so far STILL. Still replaying it like crazy. Haven't encountered an album I've been obsessed with in so long. :cry:
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Postby Loose » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:19 am

^ Praying for your exorcism, sis :lol:
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Postby ArmyOfMe » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:36 pm

It's a very good and polished album, but I can't seem to fall in love with it as much as others did.
I prefer more innovative and artistic endeavours by other R&B artists like Kelela.
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Postby SawyerHewitt » Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:54 am

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Postby cristy » Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:31 pm

She's also shooting a video for "Doves In The Wind"! To be directed by Nabil! :o 8-)

She posted a photo of her, Kendrick and Nabil on set, with the caption "Pussy". Iconic. :lol:

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Postby ThaInfo1 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:24 am

I wonder did she ever shoot "The Weekend" video. I know it was confirmed Solange would be directing it, but I wonder did they shoot it yet?

Ugh...take me back the day of her tour. It was such a vibe.
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Postby Nippian93 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:18 pm

US units (SPS): @sza, CTRL 528,000 (total).
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Postby BeeBoy » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:30 pm

Nippian93 wrote:US units (SPS): @sza, CTRL 528,000 (total).
Slay 8-) . I hope this can go platinum, if she can get another hit after Love Galore. Don't know why they do not try to push The Weekend with a video or whatever, as it is taking off on its own (as far as i know).
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Postby Mugen » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:24 pm

BeeBoy wrote:
Nippian93 wrote:US units (SPS): @sza, CTRL 528,000 (total).
Slay 8-) . I hope this can go platinum, if she can get another hit after Love Galore. Don't know why they do not try to push The Weekend with a video or whatever, as it is taking off on its own (as far as i know).
It was announced over a month ago that they were shooting a video for "The Weekend" with Solange directing it.
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Postby BeeBoy » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:13 pm

Mugen wrote:
BeeBoy wrote:
Nippian93 wrote:US units (SPS): @sza, CTRL 528,000 (total).
Slay 8-) . I hope this can go platinum, if she can get another hit after Love Galore. Don't know why they do not try to push The Weekend with a video or whatever, as it is taking off on its own (as far as i know).
It was announced over a month ago that they were shooting a video for "The Weekend" with Solange directing it.
Then I'll hope they drop it soon :lol:
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Postby Nippian93 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:04 pm

US Certifications (@RIAA): @sza, The Weekend Platinum (1,000,000).
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Postby Mugen » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:01 pm

Nippian93 wrote:US Certifications (@RIAA): @sza, The Weekend Platinum (1,000,000).
Excellent! :D
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Postby Pompeii » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:27 pm

Nippian93 wrote:US units (SPS): @sza, CTRL 528,000 (total).
So happy for her!
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