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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:40 pm

The certifications in France (since 2006) :
Silver (Argent)... 35.000
Gold (Or)... 75.000
Platinum (Platine)... 200.000
Double Platinum (Double Platine)... 400.000
Triple Platinum (Triple Platine)... 600.000
Diamond (Diamant)... 750.000

So, this is the Top 10 in 2007 with certifications :
Mika (Diamond)
Christophe Maé (Triple Platinum)
Grégory Lemarchal (Triple Platinum)
Christophe Willem (Double Platinum)
Les Enfoirés (Double Platinum)
Amy Winehouse (Double Platinum)
Yannick Noah (Double Platinum in 2007 but Diamond at the total with 790.000 copies sold = 353.000 in 2006 and 437.000 in 2007)
Johnny Hallyday (Platinum)
Vanessa Paradis (Platinum)
Vitaa (Platinum)
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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:58 pm

What are your predictions about the sales of "In Rainbows" this week in France ?
Personally, I predict a #1 debut with ~25.000 copies :)
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Postby MJDangerous » Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:00 pm

Vanacoring wrote:The certifications in France (since 2006) :
Silver (Argent)... 35.000
Gold (Or)... 75.000
Platinum (Platine)... 200.000
Double Platinum (Double Platine)... 400.000
Triple Platinum (Triple Platine)... 600.000
Diamond (Diamant)... 750.000

So, this is the Top 10 in 2007 with certifications :
Mika (Diamond)
Christophe Maé (Triple Platinum)
Grégory Lemarchal (Triple Platinum)
Christophe Willem (Double Platinum)
Les Enfoirés (Double Platinum)
Amy Winehouse (Double Platinum)
Yannick Noah (Double Platinum in 2007 but Diamond at the total with 790.000 copies sold = 353.000 in 2006 and 437.000 in 2007)
Johnny Hallyday (Platinum)
Vanessa Paradis (Platinum)
Vitaa (Platinum)
This list is totaly fake. Certifications are not something automatic, neither they are based on sales.
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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:09 pm

MJDangerous wrote:
Vanacoring wrote:The certifications in France (since 2006) :
Silver (Argent)... 35.000
Gold (Or)... 75.000
Platinum (Platine)... 200.000
Double Platinum (Double Platine)... 400.000
Triple Platinum (Triple Platine)... 600.000
Diamond (Diamant)... 750.000

So, this is the Top 10 in 2007 with certifications :
Mika (Diamond)
Christophe Maé (Triple Platinum)
Grégory Lemarchal (Triple Platinum)
Christophe Willem (Double Platinum)
Les Enfoirés (Double Platinum)
Amy Winehouse (Double Platinum)
Yannick Noah (Double Platinum in 2007 but Diamond at the total with 790.000 copies sold = 353.000 in 2006 and 437.000 in 2007)
Johnny Hallyday (Platinum)
Vanessa Paradis (Platinum)
Vitaa (Platinum)
This list is totaly fake. Certifications are not something automatic, neither they are based on sales.
It's true in the sense this list is not "official" (SNEP). But, this list give an idea of the sales of the Top 10 in 2007.
And, the certifications "official" are based on shipments and not on the sales... = not serious !
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Postby MJDangerous » Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:58 pm

Vanacoring wrote:It's true in the sense this list is not "official" (SNEP). But, this list give an idea of the sales of the Top 10 in 2007.
And, the certifications "official" are based on shipments and not on the sales... = not serious !
Not serious ? :lol:

Which matter for majors is shipment not sales. If you want to give an idea of sales, so give directly sales, what's the goal of inventing fake certifications ?
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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:22 pm

MJDangerous wrote:
Vanacoring wrote:It's true in the sense this list is not "official" (SNEP). But, this list give an idea of the sales of the Top 10 in 2007.
And, the certifications "official" are based on shipments and not on the sales... = not serious !
Not serious ? :lol:

Which matter for majors is shipment not sales. If you want to give an idea of sales, so give directly sales, what's the goal of inventing fake certifications ?
Because I believed the system changed when I saw the show "Les Disques D'Or" on TF1 yesterday with certifications to give at Christophe Maé and Johnny Hallyday for example and no precense of these certifications on the website of the SNEP.
But you are right. Mea culpa :wink:
Do you have a official list of certifications for 2007 ?
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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:48 pm

But it's true I have never understood why the certifications are based on shipments and not on sales : it's sure this thing advantage the majors but, at the actual time with the "change effect" around the world (Sarkozy in France, Obama at the USA :lol: ), perhaps it's time for institutions like SNEP or RIAA of change theirs ways for better represent the reality : Where is the problem ? 1 album sold at 750.000 copies should automatically to be certified for Diamond, for example.
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Postby tchou » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:19 am

The total of "Alive 2007" is 134.000 copies sold (December 22)
Thanks dude. Could you please keep me posted on that ?
And thank you for your top 20.
Noah has sold so much this year and i can't even rememeber one successful single of his in 2007 !
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Postby MJDangerous » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:15 am

Vanacoring wrote:But it's true I have never understood why the certifications are based on shipments and not on sales : it's sure this thing advantage the majors but, at the actual time with the "change effect" around the world (Sarkozy in France, Obama at the USA :lol: ), perhaps it's time for institutions like SNEP or RIAA of change theirs ways for better represent the reality : Where is the problem ? 1 album sold at 750.000 copies should automatically to be certified for Diamond, for example.
The problem is that a certification should be certified. Each copy sold should be proved. Sales from IFOP or Soundscan are NOT actually true sales but yes a kind of (very accurate) poll.
The ONLY way to be sure of each sale is by certifying shipment. Also, the majors certify their albums, and sales for majors are shipment, because they sold those copies to retailers.

French certifications are released in early February for the previous year.
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Postby Vanacoring » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:32 pm

tchou wrote:
The total of "Alive 2007" is 134.000 copies sold (December 22)
Thanks dude. Could you please keep me posted on that ?
And thank you for your top 20.
Noah has sold so much this year and i can't even rememeber one successful single of his in 2007 !
Okay. Sure I will.
Concerning Yannick Noah, the song "Aux Arbres Citoyens" is the #6 single of the year 2007 with 139.000 copies sold.
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Postby vesanto » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:42 pm

How is Jenifer (not J-Lo) doing there? She was a good seller, no?
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Postby manialf » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:48 pm

Jenifer Lopez- Brave in France

13/10/2007: N 28.

20/10/2007: 45.

27/10/2007: 100.

03/11/2007: 129.

10/11/2007: 164.

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Postby tchou » Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:27 pm

Okay. Sure I will.
Concerning Yannick Noah, the song "Aux Arbres Citoyens" is the #6 single of the year 2007 with 139.000 copies sold.
I must be living on another planet. Can't even remember the tune of the #6 single of the year !

Do you know how Radiohead are doing on their first usual-retail week ?
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Postby Vanacoring » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:46 pm

tchou wrote:
Okay. Sure I will.
Concerning Yannick Noah, the song "Aux Arbres Citoyens" is the #6 single of the year 2007 with 139.000 copies sold.
I must be living on another planet. Can't even remember the tune of the #6 single of the year !

Do you know how Radiohead are doing on their first usual-retail week ?
Sorry. I have not yet the result for Radiohead.
And for Yannick Noah, the single "Aux Arbres Citoyens" was the #1 single for the week of 17 february, 24 february and 3 march 2007.
"Charango" was the number #1 album for the week of 6 january 2007.
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Postby Vanacoring » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:14 pm

This is the total sales of the Top 10
2005 : 5 134 000 copies sold
2006 : 4 698 000 copies sold (- 9 %)
2007 (January 1/December 22) : 5 023 000 copies sold (+ 7 %)

The Top 10 resist !
Interesting no ?
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Postby Vanacoring » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:17 pm

According to Borderwolf in the thread "Radiohead - New Album (Info, Charts, Sales), the album "In Rainbows" by Radiohead starts at #1 in France ! :D
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Postby borderwolf » Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:23 pm

Vanacoring wrote:According to Borderwolf in the thread "Radiohead - New Album (Info, Charts, Sales), the album "In Rainbows" by Radiohead starts at #1 in France ! :D
http://www.chartsinfrance.net/actualite ... 35-22.html
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Postby tchou » Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:13 pm

Vanacoring wrote:This is the total sales of the Top 10
2005 : 5 134 000 copies sold
2006 : 4 698 000 copies sold (- 9 %)
2007 (January 1/December 22) : 5 023 000 copies sold (+ 7 %)

The Top 10 resist !
Interesting no ?
ok for this, but if you compare the total sales of the top 200, you may find a constant decrease. Anyway, first weeks of the year are very particular (because of the large decrease in sales post-Xmas).
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Postby Vanacoring » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:36 pm

#1 Radiohead "In Rainbows" (NEW)
#2 Amy Winehouse "Back To Black"
#3 Christophe Maé "Mon Paradis"
#4 Florent Pagny "Pagny Chante Brel"
#5 Grégory Lemarchal "La Voix D'un Ange"
#6 Vanessa Paradis "Divinidylle"
#7 Mika "Life In Cartoon Motion"
#8 James Blunt "All The Lost Souls"
#9 Alicia Keys "As I Am"
#10 Sheryfa Luna "Sheryfa Luna"
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Postby Vanacoring » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:13 pm

Do you have the sales of In Rainbows ?
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Postby MJDangerous » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:19 pm

Vanacoring wrote:Do you have the sales of In Rainbows ?
20K
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Postby Vanacoring » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:47 pm

MJDangerous wrote:
Vanacoring wrote:Do you have the sales of In Rainbows ?
20K
Thank you.
20.000 = end of the good time of Christmas :(
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Postby TheRock1984 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:17 pm

Vanacoring wrote:
MJDangerous wrote:
Vanacoring wrote:Do you have the sales of In Rainbows ?
20K
Thank you.
20.000 = end of the good time of Christmas :(
#1 with 20,000 :oops: awful...
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Postby nelson » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:48 pm

This is a good sign, as French have other things better to do.
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Postby Vanacoring » Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:43 am

nelson wrote:This is a good sign, as French have other things better to do.
I am a fan of music and charts, so I prefer French people buy albums and listen music... :wink:
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