Katy Perry - Witness: The Tour

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Postby Westen » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:00 pm

I'm pretty sure they are all mad about it, they realized that she needs hit in order to sell albums and tickets, her fanbase is not that big, she's more of a general public act, she's still not established, critics turned on her even more... It's like she can't get one thing right this era.

I think songs like Roulette and Deja Vu would've been cute top 20 hits if she was in her PRISM era. Witness could be a hit.
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Postby MusicRecords » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:07 pm

Wow at this point getting the best seats/bundle is gonna be cheap af :lol:
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Postby MusicRecords » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:08 pm

Is it just me or are some of the costumes kinda like something Gaga-ish from the late 00s/early2010s? :-?
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Postby Erotica » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:16 pm

The tour looks great and interesting
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Postby KEY9481 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:24 pm

MusicRecords wrote:Is it just me or are some of the costumes kinda like something Gaga-ish from the late 00s/early2010s? :-?
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Postby JJeffs » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:30 pm

Westen wrote:I'm pretty sure they are all mad about it, they realized that she needs hit in order to sell albums and tickets, her fanbase is not that big, she's more of a general public act, she's still not established, critics turned on her even more... It's like she can't get one thing right this era.

I think songs like Roulette and Deja Vu would've been cute top 20 hits if she was in her PRISM era. Witness could be a hit.
I didn't mean she/they aren't mad about it not be a big success, as I'm sure it's all sorts of disappointing and maybe even devastating. I meant not being mad about continuing to try and force it to become a success after the failure of the radio singles, bar CTTR. To release another single and have it fail, which it most likely will given the state of things and the material, is only going to make it worse.
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Postby adamf2thedeath » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:38 pm

JJeffs wrote:I'm not shocked, and I'm not even sure she's mad about it. It's probably best to let the album die off. Too much money has already been spent with very little returns (in the US, anyway) and there doesn't seem to be any real bankable single left.

Either record a new and very catchy song or two and re-release the album, or just tour and let whatever sales she gets from that be. It's a misfire, and it happens. As long as she's still got it together on tour, she can pull through this.
Her only hope of having another hit this era is to pull a 'complete confection' and release a repackaged version with 3 or 4 new HITS!
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Postby GetBack » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:32 am

Westen wrote:Where is all that payola from her last eras (let's be real, she had it!). Radios were eating up her songs even when public wasn't feeling them (Unconditionally, Birthday, This is how we do), Taylor really blacklisted her behind the scenes, she has many powerful contacts.
If this was in the 2000s, this would be somewhat believable. :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Bon Appétit" and "Swish Swish" were again very childish songs that offered nothing new, it's not surprising that people don't stream it in this day and age. I think Katy was just able to last longer with this cheesy campy pop. People obviously are a bit over her, even at the VMAs her antics were quite lame and tired already. She really should have focused on the "Chained to the Rhythm" serious vibe of the album, because people know of her new era as anti-Taylor more than anything. The feud overshadowed the music, sadly.
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Postby joiPrince_JO » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:33 am

Her biggest mistake was cutting off her hair and publicly supporting Hillary Clinton. There's a reason why Taylor never speaks on politics.
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Postby Fan » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:10 pm

joiPrince_JO wrote:Her biggest mistake was cutting off her hair and publicly supporting Hillary Clinton. There's a reason why Taylor never speaks on politics.
Yeah.. Because people are obviously not buying her records because she cut her hair :roll:
And backing Hillary surely didn't hurt Beyonce, GaGa or about every other (female) artist.
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Postby Westen » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:14 pm

GetBack wrote:
Westen wrote:Where is all that payola from her last eras (let's be real, she had it!). Radios were eating up her songs even when public wasn't feeling them (Unconditionally, Birthday, This is how we do), Taylor really blacklisted her behind the scenes, she has many powerful contacts.
If this was in the 2000s, this would be somewhat believable. :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Bon Appétit" and "Swish Swish" were again very childish songs that offered nothing new, it's not surprising that people don't stream it in this day and age. I think Katy was just able to last longer with this cheesy campy pop. People obviously are a bit over her, even at the VMAs her antics were quite lame and tired already. She really should have focused on the "Chained to the Rhythm" serious vibe of the album, because people know of her new era as anti-Taylor more than anything. The feud overshadowed the music, sadly.
BA and SS are hardly different than Birthday and This Is How We Do for example but both songs had massive radio support despite fans/public not buying them...

You don't just go from 'every single having massive airplay' to songs that can't even reach 8m AI.
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Postby KEY9481 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:54 am



The opening section :cry:
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Postby beredy » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:42 pm

Westen wrote:
GetBack wrote:
Westen wrote:Where is all that payola from her last eras (let's be real, she had it!). Radios were eating up her songs even when public wasn't feeling them (Unconditionally, Birthday, This is how we do), Taylor really blacklisted her behind the scenes, she has many powerful contacts.
If this was in the 2000s, this would be somewhat believable. :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Bon Appétit" and "Swish Swish" were again very childish songs that offered nothing new, it's not surprising that people don't stream it in this day and age. I think Katy was just able to last longer with this cheesy campy pop. People obviously are a bit over her, even at the VMAs her antics were quite lame and tired already. She really should have focused on the "Chained to the Rhythm" serious vibe of the album, because people know of her new era as anti-Taylor more than anything. The feud overshadowed the music, sadly.
BA and SS are hardly different than Birthday and This Is How We Do for example but both songs had massive radio support despite fans/public not buying them...

You don't just go from 'every single having massive airplay' to songs that can't even reach 8m AI.
Ummm This Is How We Do is one of the few bops Katy has made. It's literally miles above SS and BA.
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Postby Mikerocha » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:32 pm

Are you kidding me? :lol: what they doing to sell tickets! :lol:
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Postby Wayne » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:47 pm

Good grief! :lol:
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Postby greek_boy » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:32 am

say what :o :o

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joiPrince_JO wrote:Her biggest mistake was cutting off her hair and publicly supporting Hillary Clinton. There's a reason why Taylor never speaks on politics.
Yeah.. Because people are obviously not buying her records because she cut her hair :roll:
And backing Hillary surely didn't hurt Beyonce, GaGa or about every other (female) artist.
not that i agree with the statement above, but Katy was more involved with Hillary's campaign than Beyonce.
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Postby KEY9481 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:15 pm

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Postby greek_boy » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:21 pm

KEY9481 wrote:

The opening section :cry:
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Postby BlueScorpion » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:02 am

Her visuals are very good. Some of the choreography is off, though. And that Idol banner... I know it's old but wtf :lol:
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Postby JJeffs » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:16 am

greek_boy wrote:
nympho wrote:
say what :o :o

Fan wrote:
joiPrince_JO wrote:Her biggest mistake was cutting off her hair and publicly supporting Hillary Clinton. There's a reason why Taylor never speaks on politics.
Yeah.. Because people are obviously not buying her records because she cut her hair :roll:
And backing Hillary surely didn't hurt Beyonce, GaGa or about every other (female) artist.
not that i agree with the statement above, but Katy was more involved with Hillary's campaign than Beyonce.
I don't think her hair makes a difference in the music itself, but it does play a role in her overall image, and imo her image is just as important as her music. And, for me, there's something really off-putting (maybe even cold/hard?) about her this era... and I think at least part of it is the hair. Or whatever it is that made her want to cut it all off, possibly. I sense an inner struggle or something.

I was totally on board with CTTR and then it was like she had a "moment" and cut all her hair off - and unfortunately the era right along with it. It was weird.

I don't think it's a good look for her, either, but that's just me.

And while I agree that it's safest to stay out of politics as a pop star, I give her props for speaking her mind even if it may have cost her some success this time around. But who's to say it wasn't the music, because frankly, this is her first album that I really can't get into.

I really enjoyed that Dark Horse performance and that OUTFIT.
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Postby MusicRecords » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:15 am

BlueScorpion wrote:Her visuals are very good. Some of the choreography is off, though. And that Idol banner... I know it's old but wtf :lol:
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Postby adamf2thedeath » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:47 am

I LOVE the dark horse performance. I think it’s iconic!
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Postby SummerPeur » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:23 pm

adamf2thedeath wrote:I LOVE the dark horse performance!
It's amazing how many dates they keep adding onto this tour. Like, is she ever going to rest?

Maybe they're just trying to milk out this bad era as much as they can.
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