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Postby freeme » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:17 pm

On the official website of the chart company scottish charts are available but for some reasons a few months of 2005 are missing.
The period is from to march (maybe) to september.
What is the reason? The chart stopped or is it a mistake of the website?
Also someone have the missing months?
Can you help me please?

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Postby Mikerocha » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:28 pm

freeme wrote:On the official website of the chart company scottish charts are available but for some reasons a few months of 2005 are missing.
The period is from to march (maybe) to september.
What is the reason? The chart stopped or is it a mistake of the website?
Also someone have the missing months?
Can you help me please?

Thanks
Also the official physical singles sales from march to september 2015 are missing
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Postby kingofskiffle » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:14 am

This is an error on their part. When they built the database they didn't do the best job in the world. So they are missing.
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Postby freeme » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:56 am

I see.
No one has the missing part of the two charts?
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Postby kingofskiffle » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:50 pm

freeme wrote:I see.
No one has the missing part of the two charts?
They might be in ChartsPlus at least in part. I don’t think I have the original files. If you post the dates missing below I can check. I don’t think they are the only ones.
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Postby Woz1234 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:33 pm

kingofskiffle wrote:
freeme wrote:I see.
No one has the missing part of the two charts?
They might be in ChartsPlus at least in part. I don’t think I have the original files. If you post the dates missing below I can check. I don’t think they are the only ones.
The missing charts are from the week ending 07 May 2005 to 03 September 2005
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Postby freeme » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:47 pm

Singles and albums.
Also for UK physical chart
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Postby kingofskiffle » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:53 pm

freeme wrote:Singles and albums.
Also for UK physical chart
At that point the physical chart and the main chart where the same as far as I am aware. Maybe I can be corrected if I’m wrong?

In terms of the Scottish chart I don’t have these but much of the Top 75 can be found in ChartsPlus as they listed the chart alongside the main chart for those entries in the main top 200. I haven’t catalogued these unfortunately.

I believe that the compilation chart and indeed all charts seem to be in error and missing for that period. Again not entirely sure on that point as I haven’t gone and checked them all. But I do wish they’d fix it!
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Postby freeme » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:12 pm

kingofskiffle wrote:
freeme wrote:Singles and albums.
Also for UK physical chart
At that point the physical chart and the main chart where the same as far as I am aware. Maybe I can be corrected if I’m wrong?

In terms of the Scottish chart I don’t have these but much of the Top 75 can be found in ChartsPlus as they listed the chart alongside the main chart for those entries in the main top 200. I haven’t catalogued these unfortunately.

I believe that the compilation chart and indeed all charts seem to be in error and missing for that period. Again not entirely sure on that point as I haven’t gone and checked them all. But I do wish they’d fix it!
So you don't have them?
and is it not possible to find anywere?
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Postby Woz1234 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:15 pm

kingofskiffle wrote:I believe that the compilation chart and indeed all charts seem to be in error and missing for that period. Again not entirely sure on that point as I haven’t gone and checked them all. But I do wish they’d fix it!
Missing Compilations Chart:
14 January 1989 - 05 February 1994
20 April 2002 - 17 January 2004
22 January 2005 - 08 October 2005
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Postby kingofskiffle » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:44 pm

Woz1234 wrote:
kingofskiffle wrote:I believe that the compilation chart and indeed all charts seem to be in error and missing for that period. Again not entirely sure on that point as I haven’t gone and checked them all. But I do wish they’d fix it!
Missing Compilations Chart:
14 January 1989 - 05 February 1994
20 April 2002 - 17 January 2004
22 January 2005 - 08 October 2005
2002 onwards can be got from charts plus. I think I’m one of only a few with the pre 1994 charts typed as Top 50’s. Indeed till at least 1992 that’s all that was compiled officially. Not sure when a Top 100 started but now the occ do compile a Top 200. They have since at least 2007.
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Postby Woz1234 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:11 pm

kingofskiffle wrote:
Woz1234 wrote:
kingofskiffle wrote:I believe that the compilation chart and indeed all charts seem to be in error and missing for that period. Again not entirely sure on that point as I haven’t gone and checked them all. But I do wish they’d fix it!
Missing Compilations Chart:
14 January 1989 - 05 February 1994
20 April 2002 - 17 January 2004
22 January 2005 - 08 October 2005
2002 onwards can be got from charts plus. I think I’m one of only a few with the pre 1994 charts typed as Top 50’s. Indeed till at least 1992 that’s all that was compiled officially. Not sure when a Top 100 started but now the occ do compile a Top 200. They have since at least 2007.
On OCC website.
Top 100: 25 November 1995 - 13 January 1996 (except 16 December 1995 - Top 50)
Top 50: 20 January 1996 - 05 April 1997 (except 18 May 1996 - Top 100)
Top 100: 12 April 1997 onwards
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Postby kingofskiffle » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:52 pm

Hit Music published the Top 50 from 1992 onwards, and from 5 March 1994 (week 4 of the Millward Brown tenure of compiling the charts) they include positions outside the Top 50. So the first one is position 49 has a lwk pos 54. Meaning that a Top 54plus is compiled form that date. Now, the other thing of course is that Hit Music clearly had access to files which included the starred out records, which they renumbered for the Top 200 Singles/Albums they published. So did they have a Top xxx that they just used? I don't know. There are no more positions outside for some time, until 14 May when number 35 climbed from 200. So they at least had that. However, 27 Feb 1999 had a climb to 47 from 569 the week before, meaning that they might well have just looked at the online full sales list and numbered accordingly.
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