The Random Thought Thread

by **DOSSOME** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:54 pm

MrLeonix wrote:
DOSSOME wrote:
MrLeonix wrote: I could provide you examples of less respected artists that have received higher scores on metacritic than those.
Please do
Britney's Glory received 71/100 on metacritic , she's definately less respected than Celine Dion is. Metacritic doesn't reflect respect, it just reflects critical feedback for one specific album.

So what criteria do you use to determine Respect?

by **MrLeonix** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:32 pm

DOSSOME wrote:So what criteria do you use to determine Respect?

I think it depends because I feel like every musical genre has different meassures for respect, for example, if you want to gain respect in the hip hop community you gotta get street credibility, if you want respect in the Rock or Alternative world your talent is what matters ...... However in the Pop scene your reputation and longevity influence a lot in the amount of respect you may end receiving. Its not a coincidence that the divas that always get the most respect tend to have a perfect reputation in the way they've managed their careers (Beyonce, Celine, Adele, Madonna, etc). Longevity also seems to be a variant of respect in the pop world.

Celine builded her reputation all of these years, she was always professional, always slays on stage, her voice is still great, she doesn't have any scandal, she showed responsibility for her career and lasted long in the business, she can't go wrong and the music industry will always respect that, it doesn't matter what one critic review has to say, that respect just won't go away.

Madonna also builded a reputation as a powerful woman, she became an example of how to handle a career with extreme professionalism, creativity and high quality, she was controversial but was never involved in drugs or professional fiascos and in fact she represents responsibility, good handling and power, she always pulls amazing shows and tours and her skills took her to have one of the greatest longevities in the music business which brings her respect and reverence. People on internet may hate her but the music industry itself will always show respect to her no matter what.

by **TheRealest** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:59 pm

At the end of the day, Mariah and Janet definitely deserve more respect than they are given. Don’t care about the other bitches.

by **BlankSpace** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:08 pm

they all deserve equal respect. Period.

by **spiritboy** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:09 pm

It's their fault though.

by **TheRealest** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:11 pm

BlankSpace wrote:they all deserve equal respect. Period.

Nah.

Website · by **Hugo** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:14 pm

One has always displayed incredible talent and reinvention skills and the others aren't Madonna.

by **TheRealest** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:23 pm

Hugo wrote:One has always displayed incredible talent and reinvention skills and the others aren't Janet.

by **DOSSOME** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:26 pm

Janet influenced Michael Jackson... None of the others can relate 8-)

by **spiritboy** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:34 pm

Too bad she couldn't stay relevant like her brother :lol:

Madonna, on the other hand influenced many generations of female artists and she's the blueprint of a female pop artist. I think that's more than enough 8-)

by **MrLeonix** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:37 pm

DOSSOME wrote:Janet influenced Michael Jackson... None of the others can relate

Michael influenced Janet, she dances like him and she even sings like him :lol:

by **DOSSOME** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:37 pm

spiritboy wrote:Madonna, on the other hand influenced many generations of female artists

nah... its only Gaga and Kesha :lol:

by **DOSSOME** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:41 pm

MrLeonix wrote:
DOSSOME wrote:Janet influenced Michael Jackson... None of the others can relate
Michael influenced Janet, she dances like him and she even sings like him

WOW, she's the female Michael Jackson

by **MrLeonix** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:42 pm

DOSSOME wrote:
spiritboy wrote:Madonna, on the other hand influenced many generations of female artists
nah... its only Gaga and Kesha

Madonna influenced Kylie Minogue, Britney Spears, Gwen Stefani, Lady Gaga, Rihanna, Christina Aguilera, Katy Perry, basically every pop girl.

DOSSOME wrote:WOW, she's the female Michael Jackson

Nah, thats Beyonce. Janet is Michael's sister.

by **RayRay** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:47 pm

Madonna: Queen of Pop, more hits than anyone can dream of.

Mariah Carey: Songbird Supreme, more records than anyone can dream of.

Celine Dion: Not even the Titanic could bring her down, instead it brought her an even more legendary status.

Whitney Houston: The Voice, I Will Always Love her.

Janet Jackson: The one who taught me how to dance. Still an inspiration to me on the dance floor.

I love them all so much and have nothing but respect for those incredible iconic ladies.
Back in the 80's/90's they saved my life.
Fast forward to 2017 and they are still among my most played artists of the last two years.
According to my.last.fm since August 2015:
1. Mariah Carey
2. Madonna
3. Celine Dion
8. Whitney Houston
9. Janet Jackson

by **spiritboy** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:54 pm

As far as their discographies go, Whitney comes after Madonna for me. While not a fan of her albums, her singles are very strong. I like 3 albums from Mariah (Music Box, Daydream and Butterfly) and Janet (Janet, The Velvet Rope and All For You), 2 albums from Céline (FIY and LTAL). Tbh, i'm not familiar with early eras of Mariah, Janet and Céline.

by **RayRay** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:00 pm

spiritboy wrote:As far as their discographies go, Whitney comes after Madonna for me. While not a fan of her albums, her singles are very strong. I like 3 albums from Mariah (Music Box, Daydream and Butterfly) and Janet (Janet, The Velvet Rope and All For You), 2 albums from Céline (FIY and LTAL). Tbh, i'm not familiar with early eras of Mariah, Janet and Céline.

So you missed their best era's?

Now get to their best albums:
Mariah Carey / Mariah Carey
Control / Janet Jackson
celine dion / Celine Dion

by **DOSSOME** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:02 pm

MrLeonix wrote:
DOSSOME wrote:
spiritboy wrote:Madonna, on the other hand influenced many generations of female artists
nah... its only Gaga and Kesha
Madonna influenced Kylie Minogue, Britney Spears, Gwen Stefani, Lady Gaga, Rihanna, Christina Aguilera, Katy Perry, basically every pop girl.

Right... And Janet influenced Michael, Aaliyah, *NSYNC, Britney, Christina, Ciara, Mya, Beyonce, Missy etc.. So

by **ArmyOfMe** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:21 pm

DOSSOME wrote:
MrLeonix wrote:
DOSSOME wrote:
spiritboy wrote:Madonna, on the other hand influenced many generations of female artists
nah... its only Gaga and Kesha
Madonna influenced Kylie Minogue, Britney Spears, Gwen Stefani, Lady Gaga, Rihanna, Christina Aguilera, Katy Perry, basically every pop girl.
Right... And Janet influenced Michael, Aaliyah, *NSYNC, Britney, Christina, Ciara, Mya, Beyonce, Missy etc.. So

And Céline influenced... Leona Lewis

by **Odyssey** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:39 pm

Dear God not another stupid which diva is better discussion. They were all great, everyone of them had to offer something amazing and unique to them. None is better or worse than the other. They all sold millions of records and inspired whole bunch of other artists. You choose your diva according to your preferences and that's all there is to it. No need for a bitch fest every time.

by **MusicRecords** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:42 pm

Random thought:

The Power of Goodbye is one of Madonna’s best yet most underrated songs

it’s so beautiful

last.fm · by **Carbon** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:45 pm

Odyssey wrote:Dear God not another stupid which diva is better discussion. They were all great, everyone of them had to offer something amazing and unique to them. None is better or worse than the other. They all sold millions of records and inspired whole bunch of other artists. You choose your diva according to your preferences and that's all there is to it. No need for a bitch fest every time.

!!!

Can't believe the same old discussion keeps cropping up here

However, I did laugh at Zoran's Celine/Leona comment :lol:

P.S. The Power of Bye is truly one of Maddy's greatest

by **RayRay** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:49 pm

MusicRecords wrote:Random thought:

The Power of Goodbye is one of Madonna’s best yet most underrated songs it’s so beautiful

Don't know if it is underrated, but it is one of her most beautiful.

by **MusicRecords** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:53 pm

RayRay wrote:
MusicRecords wrote:Random thought:

The Power of Goodbye is one of Madonna’s best yet most underrated songs it’s so beautiful
Don't know if it is underrated, but it is one of her most beautiful.

Well among her fans it’s well known but for the general public they don’t even know it as much like her big hits :lol:

by **DOSSOME** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:55 pm

Odyssey wrote:Dear God not another stupid which diva is better discussion. They were all great, everyone of them had to offer something amazing and unique to them. None is better or worse than the other. They all sold millions of records and inspired whole bunch of other artists. You choose your diva according to your preferences and that's all there is to it. No need for a bitch fest every time.

Give it a few days and see the same debate pop up in the Unpopular Opinions thread :-?