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Postby irishguy28 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:38 pm

TOP SELLING ALBUMS 1959-2009

1 QUEEN Greatest Hits Parlophone 1981
2 THE BEATLES Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band Parlophone 1967
3 ABBA Gold – Greatest Hits Polydor 1992
4 OASIS What's The Story Morning Glory Creation 1995
5 MICHAEL JACKSON Thriller Epic 1982
6 DIRE STRAITS Brothers In Arms Vertigo 1985
7 PINK FLOYD The Dark Side Of The Moon Harvest 1973
8 QUEEN Greatest Hits II Parlophone 1991
9 MICHAEL JACKSON Bad Epic 1987
10 MADONNA The Immaculate Collection Sire 1990
11 SIMPLY RED Stars East West 1991
12 SHANIA TWAIN Come On Over Mercury 1998
13 FLEETWOOD MAC Rumours Warner Brothers 1977
14 JAMES BLUNT Back To Bedlam Atlantic 2005
15 THE VERVE Urban Hymns Hut 1997
16 DIDO No Angel Cheeky 2000
17 SIMON & GARFUNKEL Bridge Over Troubled Water CBS 1970
18 AMY WINEHOUSE Back To Black Island 2006
19 MEAT LOAF Bat Out Of Hell Epic 1978
20 THE CORRS Talk On Corners Atlantic 1997
21 SPICE GIRLS Spice Virgin 1996
22 ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK Dirty Dancing RCA 1987
23 DAVID GRAY White Ladder IHT/East West 2000
24 BOB MARLEY & THE WAILERS Legend Island/Tuff Gong 1984
25 DIDO Life For Rent Cheeky 2003
26 THE BEATLES 1 Apple 2000
27 LEONA LEWIS Spirit Syco 2007
28 U2 The Joshua Tree Island 1987
29 PHIL COLLINS ...But Seriously Virgin 1989
30 COLDPLAY A Rush Of Blood To The Head Parlophone 2002
31 KEANE Hopes And Fears Island 2004
32 SCISSOR SISTERS Scissor Sisters Polydor 2004
33 TRAVIS The Man Who Independiente 1999
34 TAKE THAT Beautiful World Polydor 2006
35 MIKE OLDFIELD Tubular Bells Virgin 1973
36 JEFF WAYNE’S MUSICAL VERSION War Of The Worlds CBS 1978
37 ABBA Greatest Hits Epic 1976
38 ALANIS MORISSETTE Jagged Little Pill Maverick 1995
39 COLDPLAY X&Y Parlophone 2005
40 ROBBIE WILLIAMS I’ve Been Expecting You Chrysalis 1998
41 ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK Grease RSO 1978
42 ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK The Sound Of Music RCA Victor 1965
43 COLDPLAY Parachutes Parlophone 2000
44 NORAH JONES Come Away With Me Parlophone 2002
45 TRACY CHAPMAN Tracy Chapman Elektra 1988
46 GEORGE MICHAEL Ladies & Gentlemen – The Best Of Epic 1998
47 FLEETWOOD MAC Tango In The Night Warner Brothers 1987
48 ROBSON & JEROME Robson & Jerome RCA 1995
49 REM Automatic For The People Warner Brothers 1992
50 SNOW PATROL Eyes Open Fiction/Polydor
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Postby irishguy28 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:40 pm

TOP 20 SINGLES OF THE NOUGHTIES

1 WILL YOUNG Anything Is Possible/Evergreen S 2002
2 GARETH GATES Unchained Melody S 2002
3 TONY CHRISTIE FEAT PETER KAY (Is This The Way To) Amarillo UMTV 2004
4 SHAGGY FEAT. RIKROK It Wasn't Me MCA 2001
5 BAND AID 20 Do They Know It's Christmas Mercury 2004
6 ALEXANDRA BURKE Hallelujah Syco 2008
7 KYLIE MINOGUE Can't Get You Out Of My Head Parlophone 2001
8 SHAYNE WARD That's My Goal Syco 2005
9 HEARSAY Pure And Simple Polydor 2001
10 BOB THE BUILDER Can We Fix It BBC Music 2000
11 ATOMIC KITTEN Whole Again Innocent 2001
12 GNARLS BARKLEY Crazy Warner Bros 2006
13 LEONA LEWIS Bleeding Love Syco 2007
14 LEONA LEWIS A Moment Like This Syco 2006
15 ENRIQUE IGLESIAS Hero Interscope 2001
16 X FACTOR FINALISTS Hero Syco 2008
17 DJ OTZI Hey Baby EMI 2001
18 WESTLIFE Uptown Girl RCA 2001
19 EMINEM Stan Interscope 2000
20 S CLUB 7 Don't Stop Movin' Polydor 2001
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Postby irishguy28 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:41 pm

TOP ALBUMS (Year by Year) 1959-2009

1959 SOUTH PACIFIC Original Soundtrack RCA Victor
1960 SOUTH PACIFIC Original Soundtrack RCA Victor
1961 ELVIS PRESLEY G.I. Blues RCA Victor
1962 ELVIS PRESLEY Blue Hawaii RCA Victor
1963 THE BEATLES Please Please Me Parlophone
1964 WEST SIDE STORY Original Soundtrack RCA Victor
1965 THE BEATLES Beatles For Sale Parlophone
1966 THE SOUND OF MUSIC Original Soundtrack RCA Victor
1967 THE SOUND OF MUSIC Original Soundtrack RCA Victor
1968 THE SOUND OF MUSIC Original Soundtrack RCA Victor
1969 THE SEEKERS The Best Of The Seekers EMI Columbia
1970 SIMON & GARFUNKEL Bridge Over Troubled Water CBS
1971 SIMON & GARFUNKEL Bridge Over Troubled Water CBS
1972 VARIOUS 20 Dynamic Hits K-Tel
1973 DAVID BOWIE Aladdin Sane RCA Victor
1974 THE CARPENTERS The Singles 1969–1973 A&M
1975 THE STYLISTICS The Best Of Avco
1976 ABBA Greatest Hits Epic
1977 ABBA Arrival Polydor
1978 SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER Original Soundtrack RSO
1979 BLONDIE Parallel Lines Chrysalis
1980 THE POLICE Zenyatta Mondatta A&M
1981 ADAM & THE ANTS Kings Of The Wild Frontier CBS
1982 BARBRA STREISAND Love Songs CBS
1983 MICHAEL JACKSON Thriller Epic
1984 LIONEL RICHIE Can’t Slow Down Motown
1985 DIRE STRAITS Brothers In Arms Vertigo
1986 MADONNA True Blue Sire
1987 MICHAEL JACKSON Bad Epic
1988 KYLIE MINOGUE Kylie PWL
1989 JASON DONOVAN Ten Good Reasons PWL
1990 PHIL COLLINS ...But Seriously Virgin
1991 SIMPLY RED Stars East West
1992 SIMPLY RED Stars East West
1993 MEAT LOAF Bat Out Of Hell II MCA/Virgin
1994 BON JOVI Cross Road – Greatest Hits Mercury
1995 ROBSON & JEROME Robson & Jerome RCA
1996 ALANIS MORISSETTE Jagged Little Pill Maverick
1997 OASIS Be Here Now Creation
1998 THE CORRS Talk On Corners Atlantic
1999 SHANIA TWAIN Come On Over Mercury
2000 THE BEATLES 1 Apple
2001 DIDO No Angel Cheeky
2002 ROBBIE WILLIAMS Escapology EMI
2003 DIDO Life For Rent Cheeky
2004 SCISSOR SISTERS Scissor Sisters Polydor
2005 JAMES BLUNT Back To Bedlam Atlantic
2006 SNOW PATROL Eyes Open Fiction/Polydor
2007 AMY WINEHOUSE Back To Black Island
2008 DUFFY Rockferry A&M
2009 KINGS OF LEON Only By The Night RCA
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Postby Topicel » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:43 pm

Top man - no sales? As Cilla might say, 'surprise, surprise'.

It must've taken them as long as you to copy all that down from the other lists they issued down the years.

Now to see who's gonna move up the 'naughties' table...

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Postby irishguy28 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:45 pm

TOP SINGLES (Year By Year) 1959-2009

1959 CLIFF RICHARD & THE SHADOWS Livin’ Doll Columbia
1960 THE EVERLY BROTHERS Cathy’s Clown Warner Bros
1961 DEL SHANNON Runaway London
1962 ACKER BILK Stranger On The Shore Columbia
1963 THE BEATLES She Loves You Parlophone
1964 JIM REEVES I Love You Because RCA
1965 THE SEEKERS I’ll Never Find Another You Columbia
1966 JIM REEVES Distant Drums RCA
1967 ENGELBERT HUMPERDINCK Release Me Decca
1968 LOUIS ARMSTRONG What A Wonderful World/Cabaret HMV
1969 FRANK SINATRA My Way Reprise

1970 ELVIS PRESLEY The Wonder Of You RCA
1971 GEORGE HARRISON My Sweet Lord Apple
1972 THE ROYAL SCOTS DRAGOON GUARDS Amazing Grace RCA
1973 DAWN Tie A Yellow Ribbon Round The Ole Oak Tree Bell
1974 MUD Tiger Feet Rak
1975 BAY CITY ROLLERS Bye Bye Baby Bell
1976 THE BROTHERHOOD OF MAN Save Your Kisses For Me Pye
1977 DAVID SOUL Don’t Give Up On Us Private Stock
1978 BONEY M Rivers Of Babylon/Brown Girl In The Ring Atlantic/Hansa
1979 ART GARFUNKEL Bright Eyes CBS

1980 THE POLICE Don’t Stand So Close To Me A&M
1981 SOFT CELL Tainted Love Some Bizzare
1982 DEXY’S MIDNIGHT RUNNERS Come On Eileen Mercury
1983 CULTURE CLUB Karma Chameleon Virgin
1984 BAND AID Do They Know It’s Christmas? Mercury
1985 JENNIFER RUSH The Power Of Love CBS
1986 THE COMMUNARDS Don’t Leave Me This Way London
1987 RICK ASTLEY Never Gonna Give You Up RCA
1988 CLIFF RICHARD Mistletoe and Wine EMI
1989 BLACK BOX Ride On Time Deconstruction

1990 THE RIGHTEOUS BROTHERS Unchained Melody Verve/Polydor
1991 BRYAN ADAMS (Everything I Do) I Do It For You A&M
1992 WHITNEY HOUSTON I Will Always Love You Arista
1993 MEAT LOAF I’d Do Anything For Love (But I Won’t Do That) Virgin
1994 WET WET WET Love Is All Around Precious
1995 ROBSON & JEROME Unchained Melody/White Cliffs Of Dover RCA
1996 THE FUGEES Killing Me Softly Columbia
1997 ELTON JOHN Something About The…/Candle In The Wind ‘97 Rocket
1998 CHER Believe WEA
1999 BRITNEY SPEARS …Baby One More Time Jive

2000 BOB THE BUILDER Can We Fix It? BBC Music
2001 SHAGGY FEAT. RIKROK It Wasn’t Me MCA
2002 WILL YOUNG Evergreen/Anything Is Possible S
2003 BLACK EYED PEAS Where Is The Love? A&M
2004 BAND AID 20 Do They Know It’s Christmas? Mercury
2005 TONY CHRISTIE FEAT. PETER KAY (Is This The Way To) Amarillo Universal
2006 GNARLS BARKLEY Crazy WEA
2007 LEONA LEWIS Bleeding Love Syco Music
2008 ALEXANDRA BURKE Hallelujah Syco Music
2009 LADY GAGA Poker Face Polydor
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Postby Topicel » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:48 pm

I'll save you replying Gambo to the singles year-by-year breakdown.

What rubbish!

No reflection on your hard work btw though IG. You a secretary or summit?

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Postby irishguy28 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:49 pm

Topicel wrote:No reflection on your hard work btw though IG. You a secretary or summit?
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Please advise topicel of the "Cut" and "Paste" feature now available in most modern document processing tools.

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Postby LostAvenger » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:50 pm

irishguy28 wrote:TOP ALBUMS (Year by Year) 1959-2009

1980 THE POLICE Zenyatta Mondatta A&M
Disappointed that they're still claiming this was the best seller of 1980 when ABBA actually outsold them counting the last 3 weeks of December.
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Postby zeus555 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:53 pm

I KNEW that they'd go for The Police Album, for 1980!

How I wish that 'Music Week'/Alan would prove me
wrong, for once!

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Postby jcguzman » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:54 pm

I am in London.Where I can buy the Issue?

Thanks everyone for the feedback.
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Postby irishguy28 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:58 pm

It will be in any decent newsagent (try the larger city centre branches - WHSmith for instance) from Wednesday/Thursday.

It's currently only available to subscribers in electronic format.
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Postby Topicel » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:58 pm

I'll deal with the old stuff.

Assuming we travel from Sept. 1959 as the start date, we have a simple conclusion for the beknighted Cliffy - he sold 1,145,000 singles in his first year.

Now, if we include 'Living Doll' that looks fair enough, but of course it was issued back in June/July and was no longer No. 1 by the time the paper came out, so should it have been counted therefore?

What was I saying about setting the boundaries of the survey? Maybe they did, anyone?

Johnny Nash had it right with one of his 1972 hits, and it ain't 'I Can See Clearly Now'!

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Postby brian05 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:13 pm

From Music Week supplement.

Sgt. Pepper has a fairly modest chart career compared to many albums – it ranks 18th in the longevity league, with 203 weeks on the chart but has been a consistent performer for more than 40 years, accumulating sales of more than 4,910,000 up to the cut-off point a couple of weeks ago. As vast as that tally is, there is one album which has sold more copies – Queen’s Greatest Hits. It is an album which was first released in 1981, cherry-picking their most successful singles, from their introductory 1974 smash Seven Seas Of Rhye to 1980’s Flash. Released on October 26 1981, it debuted at number two behind Shakin’ Stevens’ Shaky album, and started a four-week run at number one the following week. It sold enough copies in the final few weeks of 1981 to finish second to Adam & The Ants’ Kings Of The Wild Frontier in the annual rankings, and has continued to sell at an impressive rate ever since.

In 1996, it was issued in a slipcase with Greatest Hits II and in 2000 with Greatest Hits II and Greatest Hits III. As these packages contain the original albums, the decision was made, right or wrong, to share out the sales pro rata.

As Greatest Hits I, II and II together have sold 1,680,000, individual tallies for all three have been allocated an extra 560,000 sales. By the same token, Greatest Hits I and II’s combined sales of 132,000 have been split, with an extra 66,000 being added to each. Taking all this into consideration, Greatest Hits has sold a massive 5,780,000 copies. Greatest Hits II, eighth on the list, has sold 3,840,000 copies.

Abba’s Gold: Greatest Hits is another perennial whose evergreen status reached a new high last year, when it returned to the top of the album chart, some 16 years after it was first released, in the wake of the success of the Mamma Mia movie. It continues to close the gap on the top two, and has sold 4,648,000 copies. Taking fourth place is the recently disbanded Oasis. As the biggest selling act of the 1990s, each of Oasis’s first three releases make it onto the all-time Top 100 list, but their biggest album, by some distance, with sales surpassing 4,435,000, is (What’s The Story) Morning Glory.

Will sales from Stereo and Mono be now added to Sgt Pepper?
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Postby brian05 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:16 pm

1964 JIM REEVES I Love You Because RCA
1965 THE SEEKERS I’ll Never Find Another You Columbia
1966 JIM REEVES Distant Drums RCA


Must be based on weeks in chart. Can't buy me love was the biggest 1964 seller surely?
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Postby SimoneMJJ » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:18 pm

Is possible that Thriller sold more than Bad also the certifications (updated in 1992) claims that Bad sold more than Thriller?

P.S. According to me if pre-1959 sales were elegieble, South Pacific is the best selling album.
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Postby brian05 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:18 pm

5,780,000 - 560,000 - 66,000 = 5,154,000
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Postby zeus555 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:24 pm

They've used Y/E Charts based on POINTS for their
1960's Lists! That is the only way that 'I Love You
Because', by Jim Reeves, (a No.5 Hit!), is the 'Best
Seller' of 1964 - when 2 Beatles Hits sold a UK
Million that Year. And the only way that 'My Way',
by Frank Sinatra, (another No.5 Hit), is the 'Best
Seller' of 1969. It is a great pity that Alan chose
to use such Lists for the 1960's. I made sure - ages
ago - that The OCC had the real No.1 Best Sellers of
the 1960's. For some reason, none of it has helped
- the old Points Lists are still being used.....

Much as I love the Single, 'I'll Never Find Another
You', by The Seekers, was not the Best Seller of
1965. It was 'Tears', by Ken Dodd. Again, Points
have been used.

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Postby Gambo » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:28 pm

They've copped out on the 1960s best-selling singles as well by sticking with the points-based calculation that prevailed at the time. Fine, if some mention is made of the fact that earlier years' rankings were compiled using a totally different method to the unit sales approach of later years (many readers who aren't so well-versed in these matters will assume the latter method can apply throughout and will also assume this source to be "official" for annual best-selling singles - pub quiz masters will have mutiny on their hands!).

They have gone with D Soul's "Don't Give Up On Us" for the top single of '77 as opposed to Wings' "Mull Of Kintyre"... Clearly as we suspected they have just dug out the original BMRB year-end charts (the unrevised ones that were released to media in mid-Dec missing 2-3 weeks' sales) and slavishly transcribed them into their feature. Lazy I call it!

Yet for all that, I shall still be buying a copy in a day or two's time! BTW jcguzman - assuming you're in Central London you should be able to grab a copy of MW from the WHS in Victoria Station!

Sorry - wrote this before the previous post appeared!
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Postby Topicel » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:30 pm

irishguy28 wrote:
Topicel wrote:No reflection on your hard work btw though IG. You a secretary or summit?
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Postby Topicel » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:33 pm

zeus555 wrote:I KNEW that they'd go for The Police Album, for 1980!

How I wish that 'Music Week'/Alan would prove me
wrong, for once!

Zeus555
Don't be silly Colin! Their game and their ball and all that.

Like I said, he can claim what he likes and make it stick. We just know better, that's all.

Seems like they don't listen much either. :cry:

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Postby Topicel » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:37 pm

brian05 wrote:1964 JIM REEVES I Love You Because RCA
1965 THE SEEKERS I’ll Never Find Another You Columbia
1966 JIM REEVES Distant Drums RCA


Must be based on weeks in chart. Can't buy me love was the biggest 1964 seller surely?
Like I said Brian, what rubbish.

At least they've come clean about Queen, which is a very big admission and step in the right direction imho.

Transparency in the methods and timelines is all we ask. If we don't know the rules then they may as well keep their ball and it's not much of game!

Back to working out if Sgt. Pepper is really tops then...you know, after club sales etc. are similarly re-counted

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Postby Topicel » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:42 pm

SimoneMJJ wrote:Is possible that Thriller sold more than Bad also the certifications (updated in 1992) claims that Bad sold more than Thriller?

P.S. According to me if pre-1959 sales were elegieble, South Pacific is the best selling album.
The biggest selling album of all-time, in all its guises and versions, will be Sound Of Music.

But who cares for accuracy?

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Postby Topicel » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:45 pm

zeus555 wrote:They've used Y/E Charts based on POINTS for their
1960's Lists! That is the only way that 'I Love You
Because', by Jim Reeves, (a No.5 Hit!), is the 'Best
Seller' of 1964 - when 2 Beatles Hits sold a UK
Million that Year. And the only way that 'My Way',
by Frank Sinatra, (another No.5 Hit), is the 'Best
Seller' of 1969. It is a great pity that Alan chose
to use such Lists for the 1960's. I made sure - ages
ago - that The OCC had the real No.1 Best Sellers of
the 1960's. For some reason, none of it has helped
- the old Points Lists are still being used.....

Much as I love the Single, 'I'll Never Find Another
You', by The Seekers, was not the Best Seller of
1965. It was 'Tears', by Ken Dodd. Again, Points
have been used.

Zeus555
Yep, 'Tears' it was. I was told years ago by industry types that AJ listens and responds to very few. You've done well to even get an audience.

Its what stats do to you, you know! Aaaaaaaah.

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Postby Topicel » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:47 pm

Gambo wrote:They've copped out on the 1960s best-selling singles as well by sticking with the points-based calculation that prevailed at the time. Fine, if some mention is made of the fact that earlier years' rankings were compiled using a totally different method to the unit sales approach of later years (many readers who aren't so well-versed in these matters will assume the latter method can apply throughout and will also assume this source to be "official" for annual best-selling singles - pub quiz masters will have mutiny on their hands!).

They have gone with D Soul's "Don't Give Up On Us" for the top single of '77 as opposed to Wings' "Mull Of Kintyre"... Clearly as we suspected they have just dug out the original BMRB year-end charts (the unrevised ones that were released to media in mid-Dec missing 2-3 weeks' sales) and slavishly transcribed them into their feature. Lazy I call it!

Yet for all that, I shall still be buying a copy in a day or two's time! BTW jcguzman - assuming you're in Central London you should be able to grab a copy of MW from the WHS in Victoria Station!

Sorry - wrote this before the previous post appeared!
I predict a riot!

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Postby Topicel » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:50 pm

Never visited the Bowie thread, but man, they should be pleased to come in tenth in all-time singles sellers in the UK.

Anyone know who AJs favourites are? Lol.

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