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    by » Thu August 28th, 2014, 01:37

    Classics VS Future Classics Survivor ... Coming Soon!!!



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    by » Thu August 28th, 2014, 09:42

    I'm gonna love this one too, you always do great survivors!
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    by » Thu August 28th, 2014, 10:45

    this will be interesting one.

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    by » Thu August 28th, 2014, 17:01

    Quote Originally Posted by nickf1
    this will be interesting one.
    Even with Gaga stealing Britney's place in the first picture?

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    by » Thu August 28th, 2014, 17:06

    Quote Originally Posted by Wardo
    Quote Originally Posted by nickf1
    this will be interesting one.
    Even with Gaga stealing Britney's place in the first picture?
    Britney is much more influenced by Janet, it's clear to see.

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    by » Fri August 29th, 2014, 11:01

    Quote Originally Posted by Wardo
    Quote Originally Posted by nickf1
    this will be interesting one.
    Even with Gaga stealing Britney's place in the first picture?
    we all know who is who

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    by » Fri August 29th, 2014, 11:10

    Will Mariah/Ariana be on this?

    Anyway, I love your survivors. Hopefully there won't be "tactics" by some stans once the game starts.

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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 00:08

    Quote Originally Posted by Cless
    Anyway, I love your survivors. Hopefully there won't be "tactics" by some stans once the game starts.
    Unfortunately not. It's too early to tell IMO if Ariana's songs (although I love Problem) will be viewed as having a chance of being Classics yet. Plus, there is no Mariah in this countdown. Yes you read that right, no Mariah.
    I have nothing against her and she's got some songs that are viewed as Classics BUT Mariah kind of fits in the Old and New sections as she's had BIG hits in the early 90's (old) and the 2000's (new) and so she doesn't belong to either section which is why she's not in this survivor. This is also the same for other artists whose peak of fame wasn't clearly in the Classic or the Future Classic section.

    I will be starting this tomorrow.

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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 01:27

    Quote Originally Posted by Wardo
    Quote Originally Posted by nickf1
    this will be interesting one.
    Even with Gaga stealing Britney's place in the first picture?
    Thats because we could actually put Britney in the left side as one of the original Icons and Miley in the right next to her in the side of the copycats
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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 13:14

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLeonix
    Quote Originally Posted by Wardo
    Quote Originally Posted by nickf1
    this will be interesting one.
    Even with Gaga stealing Britney's place in the first picture?
    Thats because we could actually put Britney in the left side as one of the original Icons and Miley in the right next to her in the side of the copycats
    It's not about Icons and who isn't icons. It's about songs which are certified Classics against songs which are looking to be future Classics. Britney is in the Future Classics section as she's part of the 2000's era of music despite starting off in 1999. She's actually the only Future Classic song not in the 2000's but 1999 is close enough.

    I thought the Madonna vs Gaga picture would be pretty obvious unlike a Madonna vs Britney picture.

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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 13:37

    Quote Originally Posted by joel77m77

    I thought the Madonna vs Gaga picture would be pretty obvious unlike a Madonna vs Britney picture.
    well many will disagree with that, but it's your game so, gives us r1

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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 13:42

    Quote Originally Posted by nickf1
    Quote Originally Posted by joel77m77

    I thought the Madonna vs Gaga picture would be pretty obvious unlike a Madonna vs Britney picture.
    well many will disagree with that, but it's your game so, gives us r1
    But people say a lot that Gaga copies Madonna etc etc. I don't care much for it personally. But I've never really seen Madonna and Britney compared musically. They are two different artists really and Brit's not been accused of copying Madonna from what I've heard.

    Round 1 will be coming in a few hours. Still sorting some things out. I just hope everyone will be happy with the lists of songs.

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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 14:31

    I wouldn't like to see Britney in the "new classic" section, she is not a newcomer, plus she is not a copycat of any other icon, she is on the originals status.

    Britney has been inmensely influenced by Madonna and Janet but at the same time she managed and succeeded to become an independent different or separate icon by her own, she is a whole own world in pop culture, there are bigger icons than her and she has her mentors but Britney is not an Icon that lives under the shadow of another Icon.

    Thats what I thought she could be in the left side with the original icons, opposed to Beyonce who wasn't hot alone by her own until like 2004 or something, Britney hit it big since the 90s so she is definately from an older generation musically, and turns out that there is another "newer" girl that has a very similar background to Britney who is Miley, just like Brit she started as a Disney girl, then became a teen star sensation and money machine to then become a controversial star. So we have Classic: Baby one more time Vs Future Classic: Wrecking ball. It makes sense and fits perfectly since the Icons that are in the left side are huge forces in pop culture, made chart history and have all time selling albums while the ones that are placed in the right side (future classic) are just weaker, smaller and degrated versions.
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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 17:21

    Just to reiterate this is NOT a survivor about who is an Icon/Legend and who isn't.

    A lot of the artists in the Future Classics section are Icons but there songs haven't been around for decades to clearly say that they are Classics, yet they look likely to become Classics hence why there in the Future Classics section.
    Britney is part of the Future Classics section as just like Beyonce, Adele, Eminem etc etc. There songs have been around for under 2 decades which is not IMO an applicable time to say there chosen song is a Classic unlike the songs representing the Classics section which are unarguably whetehr you like them or not Classic songs.I'm getting sick of the word Classic, lol.

    Plus, Britney debuted in 1999 which is just 1 year off the 2000's and can hardly be used to say she was a 90's artist.

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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 17:36

    PLEASE READ FOR EXPLANATIONS

    Okay, so before we start. Some reasoning as to why the songs were chosen to prevent questions from popping up in Round 1.

    1) The Future Classics section has been chosen with songs less that two decades old. (1999 - present to be exact) This is because, in this time frame the songs haven't stood the test of time to be a certified Classsic, but they look likely to become one.

    2) Artists who have had massive fame peaks in recent times and decades ago like Kylie and Mariah Carey have not been included as I also wanted it to be like a Old Vs New survivor. Which was the premise to begin with.

    3) Obviously not all Classics and Future Classics could be chosen and what may be viewed as the most likely Modern Classic songs and the most Classic songs of all time may have been excluded as everyone thinks differently, however I've tried to make the lists so that every song fits there category as best I could.

    4) I have not included songs which have been used in recent survivors like Arctic Monkeys, I Bet That You Look Good On The Dancefloor and Franz Ferdinand's, Take Me Out. With the exception of Amy Whinehouse's song as she brought something different to the Modern Classics list and so I thought it was important that her song was kept in.

    5) Songs by artists that are regularly used in survivor have been excluded for lesser known but still Classic songs. You will notice this in Michael Jackson's case.

    6) I have chosen songs which are famous on a worldwide scale. For example, I wanted to include Carrie Underwood to represent some country music for the Modern Classics but although Before He Cheats may be an American Future Classic song, it's not int he rest of the world and so isn't included.

    7) I hope everyone will be pleased with the lists whether your favorite Classic song is there or not or Future Classic song. I did a LOT of research to get this final list and have tried to get it to represent many genres like rock, country, pop and R&B but the Modern Classics section lacks some of these as, well, music changed and were working with a smaller time frame so I hope it's a good enough genre mixed bunch of songs for everyone.

    Thanks for reading.

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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 17:50

    Quote Originally Posted by joel77m77
    Plus, Britney debuted in 1999 which is just 1 year off the 2000's and can hardly be used to say she was a 90's artist.
    Its not an important correction but Britney debuted in 1998 not 1999

    Sorry for the OT, you can continue with your thing, I'm not participating anyways
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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 18:03



    Round 1

    Welcome to my Classics Vs Future Classics survivor. If you would like to know reasons for choosing the songs selected please look at the post above.

    CLASSICS

    ABBA - Super Trooper
    AC-DC - Back In Black
    Aretha Franklin - Respect
    Ben E King - Stand By Me
    Billy Joel - Piano Man
    Bobby Darin - Mack The Knife
    Bob Dylan - Like A Rolling Stone
    Bob Marley - One Love
    Bryan Adams - Heaven
    Cyndi Lauper - True Colors
    David Bowie - Let's Dance
    Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water
    Dolly Parton - 9 to 5
    Donna Summer - Hot Stuff
    Elvis Presley - Jailhouse Rock
    Etta James - At Last
    Frank Sinatra - My Way
    Guns and Roses - Welcome To The Jungle
    John Lennon - Imagine
    Johnny Cash - Ring Of Fire
    Madonna - Like A Virgin
    Metallica - Enter Sandman
    Michael Jackson - Rock With You
    Motorhead - Ace Of Spades
    Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit
    Prince - Purple Rain
    Queen - We Will Rock You
    Simon and Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water
    Stevie Wonder - Superstition
    The Rolling Stone's - I Can't Get No (Satisfaction)
    The Supremes - Baby Love
    The Beatles - Yellow Submarine
    The Kinks - You Really Got Me
    Tina Turner - The Best
    Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)

    FUTURE CLASSICS

    Adele - Someone Like You
    Alicia Keys - If I Ain't Got You
    Amy Whinehouse - Rehab
    Beyonce - Halo
    Britney Spears - …Baby One More Time
    Coldplay - Fix You
    Christina Aguilera - Ain't No Other Man
    Eminem - Love The Way You Lie (featuring Rihanna)
    Enrique Eglesias - Hero
    Gwen Stefani - Hollaback Girl
    Jason Mraz - I'm Yours
    Jay-Z - Empire State Of Mind (featuring Alicia Keys)
    Justin Timberlake - Sexyback
    Kanye West - Stronger
    Kelly Clarkson - Because Of You
    Kings Of leon - Sex On Fire
    Lady Gaga - Bad Romance
    Leona Lewis - Bleeding Love
    Linkin Park - Numb
    Maroon 5 - This Love
    Nelly - Dillemna (featuring Kelly Rowland)
    OneRepublic - Apologize
    P!nk - Who Knew
    Plain White T's - Hey there Delilah
    Pussycat Dolls - Don't Cha (featuring Busta Rhymes)
    Rihanna - We Found Love
    Shakira - Whenever, Wherever
    Snow Patrol - Chasing Cars
    The All-American Rejects - Gives You Hell
    The Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love?
    The Fratelli's - Chelsea Dagger
    The Fray - How To Save A Life
    The Killer's - Human
    Usher - Yeah! (featuring Lil Jon and Ludacris)
    Wheatus - Teenage Dirtbag

    SAVE 10 Songs & vote OUT 5 Songs

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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 18:56

    SAVE
    AC-DC - Back In Black
    Ben E King - Stand By Me
    Guns and Roses - Welcome To The Jungle
    Metallica - Enter Sandman
    Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit
    The Rolling Stone's - I Can't Get No (Satisfaction)
    Tina Turner - The Best
    Alicia Keys - If I Ain't Got You
    Britney Spears - …Baby One More Time
    Pussycat Dolls - Don't Cha (featuring Busta Rhymes)

    OUT
    Coldplay - Fix You
    Christina Aguilera - Ain't No Other Man
    Justin Timberlake - Sexyback
    Kanye West - Stronger
    Lady Gaga - Bad Romance

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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 21:22

    SAVE
    Dolly Parton - 9 to 5
    Elvis Presley - Jailhouse Rock
    Frank Sinatra - My Way
    The Kinks - You Really Got Me
    Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)
    Beyonce - Halo
    Christina Aguilera - Ain't No Other Man
    The All-American Rejects - Gives You Hell
    The Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love?
    Wheatus - Teenage Dirtbag

    OUT
    ABBA - Super Trooper
    Billy Joel - Piano Man
    Bob Dylan - Like A Rolling Stone
    David Bowie - Let's Dance
    Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water

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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 23:12

    Save:
    Billy Joel - Piano Man
    Bob Dylan - Like A Rolling Stone
    David Bowie - Let's Dance
    Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water
    Coldplay - Fix You
    Amy Whinehouse - Rehab
    Kings Of leon - Sex On Fire
    The Killers it doesn't have an apostrophe - Human
    Stevie Wonder - Superstition
    Metallica - Enter Sandman

    Out:
    Christina Aguilera - Ain't No Other Man
    Lady Gaga - Bad Romance
    Madonna - Like A Virgin
    Kelly Clarkson - Because Of You
    Jason Mraz - I'm Yours

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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 23:26

    The Beatles - Yellow Submarine Why exactly this song?


    SAVE:

    Bob Dylan - Like A Rolling Stone
    Cyndi Lauper - True Colors
    David Bowie - Let's Dance
    Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water
    John Lennon - Imagine
    Madonna - Like A Virgin
    Simon and Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water
    The Rolling Stone's - I Can't Get No (Satisfaction)
    Coldplay - Fix You
    Lady Gaga - Bad Romance


    OUT:

    Aretha Franklin - Respect
    Beyonce - Halo
    Nelly - Dillemna (featuring Kelly Rowland)
    Pussycat Dolls - Don't Cha (featuring Busta Rhymes)
    The Supremes - Baby Love

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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 23:33

    SAVE
    David Bowie - Let's Dance
    Guns and Roses - Welcome To The Jungle
    Madonna - Like A Virgin
    Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit
    Prince - Purple Rain
    Amy Whinehouse - Rehab
    Britney Spears - …Baby One More Time
    Maroon 5 - This Love
    Rihanna - We Found Love

    OUT
    Shakira - Whenever, Wherever
    Usher - Yeah! (featuring Lil Jon and Ludacris)
    Kanye West - Stronger
    Gwen Stefani - Hollaback Girl
    Billy Joel - Piano Man
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    by » Sat August 30th, 2014, 23:34

    Save
    Bryan Adams - Heaven
    Cyndi Lauper - True Colors
    David Bowie - Let's Dance
    Donna Summer - Hot Stuff
    Madonna - Like A Virgin
    Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit
    Christina Aguilera - Ain't No Other Man
    Justin Timberlake - Sexyback
    Linkin Park - Numb
    Rihanna - We Found Love

    Out
    Adele - Someone Like You
    Jay-Z - Empire State Of Mind (featuring Alicia Keys)
    Jason Mraz - I'm Yours
    Plain White T's - Hey there Delilah
    The Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love?
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    by » Sun August 31st, 2014, 00:27

    Quote Originally Posted by floria
    The Beatles - Yellow Submarine Why exactly this song?
    Just because I've never seen it in a survivor before as opposed to many of their other Classic songs.

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