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    by Ľ Sat March 7th, 2015, 17:47

    The UK General Election - May 7th 2015

    Timetable

    • Monday 30th March - dissolution of parliament
    • Thursday 9th April - deadline for candidates to state their candidacy
    • Monday 20th April - Tuesday 28th April - deadline for voters to register their intention to vote [postal, online or otherwise]
    • Thursday 7th May - polling day! Voting ends at 10pm, and counting begins and continues the following day


    Following this, we have the return of Parliament, the Queen's Speech, and the election of the speaker of the House of Commons.

    To confirm, there are 650 seats in the House of Commons [650 MPs] - to negate the need for a coalition government [or worse still, the chance of a minority government], a majority party would need more than 50% of the seats [i.e. 326 seats or more]. In the last General Election, the Conservatives had a majority, but not THE majority needed to form a government - 306 seats won against Labour's 258 seats. They took the decision to form a coalition with the Liberal Democrats who had won 57 seats.

    It's predicted this year that we'll have another hung parliament [*groan*] with Labour having a majority, just not the majority needed to form a government. It's suggested that Labour will form a majority coalition with the SNP, ironic really given how opposed to the structure of the UK, the SNP are! Only possible variable is that the Lib Dems don't do as poorly as predicted and retain enough seats to form the coalition.



    Conservatives: Leading the coalition since 2010, David Cameron has been focussing on "building a stronger, more competitive economy and securing a better future for Britain".



    Labour: The Labour Party constitution states: "The Labour Party is a democratic socialist party. It believes that by the strength of our common endeavour we achieve more than we achieve alone."



    Liberal Democrats: Part of the coalition, the Lib Dems say: "We champion the freedom, dignity and well-being of individuals, we acknowledge and respect their right to freedom of conscience."



    UKIP: UKIP's principal aim is the withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union and their manifesto is based upon "Common Sense policies".



    Green Party: The Green Party promotes the policies of ecological sustainability, a fairer, more stable economy and a more equal society.

    The SNP [Scotland] and Plaid Cymru [Wales] have very patriotic and national policies.

    So, who will you all be voting for? How will you be voting? Are you invested in politics, locally and nationally? If you won't be voting, then why?

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    by Ľ Fri February 1st, 2019, 01:25

    So it turns out Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn discussed the 'soft Brexit' type of staying in a customs union during their face-to-face talks
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    by Ľ Sat February 2nd, 2019, 16:56

    Gosh just get out with no deal and deal with it
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    by Ľ Sat February 2nd, 2019, 18:35

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicRecords View Post
    Gosh just get out with no deal and deal with it

    Ive been saying that here for months!
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    by Ľ Sat February 2nd, 2019, 20:43

    Quote Originally Posted by menime123 View Post
    Ive been saying that here for months!
    EU's gonna take that Gibraltar thingy then
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    by Ľ Sat February 2nd, 2019, 21:47

    Quote Originally Posted by heppolo View Post
    EU's gonna take that Gibraltar thingy then
    Scotland and Ireland will prolly come for England's wig too.
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    by Ľ Sat February 2nd, 2019, 23:18

    Quote Originally Posted by aRat View Post
    Scotland and Ireland will prolly come for England's wig too.
    nil points for that Brexit swan song then
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    by Ľ Sat February 2nd, 2019, 21:52

    Quote Originally Posted by menime123 View Post
    Ive been saying that here for months!
    @menime123 Are you a brexiter? Do you think a no deal is better?
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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 03:01

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMale View Post
    @menime123 Are you a brexiter? Do you think a no deal is better?
    No.

    I voted to remain. I wanted to remain. But the conduct of the EU means if we were to vote again, I’d vote to leave. As much as I wanted to remain I’ve accepted the outcome of the referendum and do believe we should be leaving based entirely on that. If the EU isn’t giving us a deal we like then logically we must leave without one. It doesn’t scare me and I don’t buy into the scaremongering that basically suggests we’re doomed for all eternity if we leave without one.

    Do I want to leave without a deal? At this stage, yes. It is now time to call the EU’s bluff and just leave. Their recent suggestion that we should stay in the EU because we rejected their deal makes me feel like that was their plan all along, and amongst all of the madness of the last few months (where every politician has tried every feasible way to topple the government) I’m not surprised they feel this way.

    I feel it all boils down to the Irish backstop now and frankly, I have no idea why we aren’t just saying to the EU that we will not enforce a border - if you want to that’s fine, but you explain it to Ireland. Clearly it’s a lot more complicated than that but that summarises my feelings on it.

    All I know is that I feel strongly about no second referendum or delaying Brexit. If we aren’t out by the end of March I’ll be most unimpressed.

    It’s not like delaying it means we’ll win Eurovision
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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 01:26

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMale View Post
    @menime123 Are you a brexiter? Do you think a no deal is better?
    Dont even start him omg

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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 11:15

    You will not be doomed for all eternity, but the next couple of years will be very tough on the people if the UK leaves without a deal. Of course the EU is playing hard, they don't want to facilitate the exit of any member from the union, because that would jeopardize the all concept.
    But leaving without a deal would leave the UK isolated without any trade deal. And as you know, international trade deals have rules over seed by the WTO to Wich the EU is a very important member. If it took 18 months to reach a deal with the EU, it means that it would take at least the same amount of time for the UK to reach a trade deal outside the EU. Those 18 months would be terrible for you. And I say 18 months in a perfect scenario, Wich is now very far from it.
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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 11:35

    I have no doubt we’d use our influence behind closed doors to get trades sorted across the globe. But personally I’d encourage us - in a no deal scenario - to take advantage of our own farming industry and turn to local produce. Food prices always increase anyway, so at least this time we’d actually know why. They’ve already used Brexit to increase them anyway.
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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 11:45

    Also I buy a lot of stuff from Amazon UK, but if you guys leave like that, I have to start buying German
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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 11:41

    But even if the UK starts making their own produce, it will take years until you see the results. You can use your influence behind closed doors, but in this global market of today, I don't think you can pull it off. I mean, the UK is an important market for any company in the world, but so is the EU with all its 27 countries. I still think a no deal is the worst it could happen for both the EU and the UK, but mostly to the UK.
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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 12:02

    I mean, it’s never going to be perfect. We already do farm, but not enough to feed the entire country... but the farmers would welcome an increase in custom I’m sure. Vegetables don’t take years either

    That all said, we won’t starve. I doubt we will leave without a deal too - I suspect the EU may cave at the last minute if it wants the divorce money. I also believe they’ve discussed stuff with May privately that isn’t public knowledge, and that what we are seeing is all just a political game somehow.

    Alli I know is that things will sort themselves out and the scaremongering I just that.
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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 13:09

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMale View Post
    But even if the UK starts making their own produce, it will take years until you see the results. You can use your influence behind closed doors, but in this global market of today, I don't think you can pull it off. I mean, the UK is an important market for any company in the world, but so is the EU with all its 27 countries. I still think a no deal is the worst it could happen for both the EU and the UK, but mostly to the UK.
    In the long run, it might be better for the UK, but I guess not during the next decade or so.
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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 13:11

    Quote Originally Posted by heppolo View Post
    In the long run, it might be better for the UK, but I guess not during the next decade or so.
    But who's gonna work the land. I reckon that most Brits voted out because o immigration...
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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 13:15

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMale View Post
    But who's gonna work the land. I reckon that most Brits voted out because o immigration...
    Partly true, but England is pretty overcrowded already in comparison to even continental Europe.

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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 12:24

    I don't think the EU is gonna cave, they want to show that it's hard to leave and that there will be consequences if one does leave. And what better example than to "punish" a country like the UK?
    Also I've read that nearly 60% of the food the UK imports, comes from the EU. That's a big blow to the UK if on the 29th of March there's no deal in place.
    I think that the UK will postpone the brexit for a few months or take the deal as it is. And that means staying without the power of making any decisions about the EU.
    As for the money, the EU will get it one way or another, because the UK doesn't want to be in default, because that would undermine the possibility of getting money from international institutions.
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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 12:51

    What does all of this mean for the deficit? We will see when the next government revenue and expenditure figures are revealed. The deficit will worsen, we know that. I'm saving money just in case!

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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 16:36

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMale View Post
    I don't think the EU is gonna cave, they want to show that it's hard to leave and that there will be consequences if one does leave. And what better example than to "punish" a country like the UK?
    Also I've read that nearly 60% of the food the UK imports, comes from the EU. That's a big blow to the UK if on the 29th of March there's no deal in place.
    I think that the UK will postpone the brexit for a few months or take the deal as it is. And that means staying without the power of making any decisions about the EU.
    As for the money, the EU will get it one way or another, because the UK doesn't want to be in default, because that would undermine the possibility of getting money from international institutions.

    Well weíll pay what is required, naturally. But not the extra stated in the deal. The deal is dead unless the EU backdown on Ireland. Itís as simple as that - there is no other votes on the deal so the deal as it stands is dead.

    Just because we havenít got a deal doesnít mean we canít trade with the EU. Our food will still come from there - suppliers and businesses will have contracts in place anyway - we just have to pay more for it... and I think everyone expects Brexit to put the price of food up.

    I think the cost of essentials will remain the same as most essentials are British produce and most supermarkets already stock British meat. They also stock meat from outside the EU which then isnít going to change in cost. Even if costs increase, supermarkets will fight to make other products more expensive in order to keep essentials down... itís not uncommon for supermarkets to use items as Ďloss leadersí, where they underprice items in order to get people through the door (and get people buying other costlier items).

    Politically the EU still requires a good working relationship with the UK: we are neighbours and can still be supporters of each other on the world stage. The EU also has to consider the implications on businesses that work with the UK too - who is to say we will continue to buy food (for example) from the EU if itís cheaper else where?

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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 16:45

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMale View Post
    But who's gonna work the land. I reckon that most Brits voted out because o immigration...
    The irony here is most UK farmers use seasonal farmers from the continent - during strawberry picking season etc.

    If the government decide it needs to increase British farming then itíll have to figure out a career strategy for it and get younger people interested. I know you can go to college and university go study aspects of farming (animal rearing and business etc), but ultimately it will need to find a way of encouraging local communities to work for local farms again.

    I would love that to happen. I try to buy British produce as often and as much as I can. I love a farmers market and farm shops. Thereís something strangely satisfying in knowing the people who grew or raised your food... and there shouldnít be as thatís how it should be - itís the idea that sitting down to a meal and having food on your plate from 4 different continents that should be strange.

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    by Ľ Sun February 3rd, 2019, 23:10

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-a8760756.html

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8760361.html

    Sunderland voted by a large margin to leave the EU. To those in Sunderland who voted to leave the EU, especially the Nissan Workers: Enjoy

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    by Ľ Mon February 4th, 2019, 00:31

    Quote Originally Posted by Kpop View Post
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-a8760756.html

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8760361.html

    Sunderland voted by a large margin to leave the EU. To those in Sunderland who voted to leave the EU, especially the Nissan Workers: Enjoy
    Do you know how many times a similar article has appeared? This story isn’t new - Nissan has been on the verge of closing for over 20 years. I know people who work there - don’t believe the scaremongering.

    Are you not tired of being of hating on Brexiteers yet? Hate the difference of opinion, not the people - you’re suggesting mass unemployment would be a good thing simply because you disagree with their politics. Try being a labour supporter under a Tory government for the last 10 years.

    Holding onto your bitterness will only hurt you and no one else. You have to find the positives in everything and work with what you have got.
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    by Ľ Wed February 6th, 2019, 14:01

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8765606.html

    "Special place in hell" for those who promoted Brexit without any plan.

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