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    by Sat June 6th, 2015, 23:38

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham76man
    I think you are all mistaking predigests for power drives.
    If you put someone down for whatever reason then you can feel stronger in yourself. Therefore you gain more power over that person. If you single out a person for being different from the rest it makes it easier to gain more power over them.
    Power can also be gained by having a culture that might excluded others. For example is the title of the thread is technically predigest? Or does it imply a Power base. For the thread title implies that there "IS" a community of LGBT. Therefore it should be made up of the groups of LGBT, should it not? But we know (for example from Big Brother) that Michelle Visage - who is straight - is part of the LGBT Community. While at the same time she can attack a gay man for showing the LGBT up.
    There is not something that would naturally make the different groupings come together to form a community. Only three of the groups have anything in common with each other. And that is for two of them they have sex with the same sex and the third group have sex with both sexes. The last group are either trying to be the other sex or have changed sex. But even in that group are sub-divisions. With sex changed persons still wanting to have sex with the sex they were and others switching to the other side and some with both.
    Even in the LGBT movement their are some that don't except the different sub-divisions of it. But that doesn't mean they are homophobic to the other sections.

    As I have pointed out before the LGBT thing is only a recent development in human cultural history developing out of an education culture that makes people question the status quo. It has of course not completed it's change and the whole movement is in a state of flux. It will be interesting to see how it develops in the years to come. But since each new generation will question what has gone before, the future members of the LGBT culture will either look on the present generation with either praise or hate. Maybe they will see LGBT members like women see Mrs Pankhurst today? Or not?
    My thread title doesn't imply any power system thank you.

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    by Sun June 7th, 2015, 00:00

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyCrazy
    Do you mean prejudice?
    predigest

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    by Sun June 7th, 2015, 01:43

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyOfMe
    My thread title doesn't imply any power system thank you.
    So are you saying that the LGBT community has no power at all then? And that it is a collection of people grouped together for no purpose whatsoever?

    Blame the spell checker guy... Or Internet Explorer, or better still just Microsoft in general for being a bunch of nerds grouped together for no purpose whatsoever.
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    by Sun June 7th, 2015, 01:49

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham76man
    So are you saying that the LGBT community has no power at all then? And that it is a collection of people grouped together for no purpose whatsoever?
    You must be trolling because this is just silly.

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    by Sun June 7th, 2015, 05:55

    it's disgusting how people in the gay scene do bottom shaming, makes fun of trans people, effems, and old gays. :(
    Most of us have been in the gay scene for a long time and have witnessed these deplorable and extremely shallow acts: places here that doesn't allow trans people, use of codes to discriminate and talk about old gays, etc.

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    by Sun June 7th, 2015, 20:04

    Quote Originally Posted by Brad
    Quote Originally Posted by Graham76man
    So are you saying that the LGBT community has no power at all then? And that it is a collection of people grouped together for no purpose whatsoever?
    You must be trolling because this is just silly.
    I think you are saying that because you think some moderator might listen to you and ban me. For the reason Brad has a personal issue with me being on this forum and frequently demonstrates it in his actions in the same way that this thread is trying to show is happening inside the LGBT community. UKMIX Members should perhaps ignore what he is saying here.

    That aside...

    What I said makes perfect sense in the response to the original statement. The LGBT movement was started to gain rights for members of the community. To do this it has to have power. Power can be used for both good and bad purposes. LGBT members have used the "power" to get laws passed to stop discrimination. They are listened to and taken notice of because they have the power. ArmyOfMe said there was no "power system" in the thread title. When (as I have shown above) the LGBT is a power grouping. If it wasn't it would be a collection of people grouped together for no purpose whatsoever.
    In which case it would be called UKMIX and not LGBT

    As with all groups "power" can be used negatively.
    I do think we have to be careful though. For just because someone fits into the LGBT tag doesn't mean they are happy with the grouping. Therefore they are likely to have issues with those inside the LGBT community, as reported by those on this thread.
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    by Sun June 7th, 2015, 20:41

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham76man
    What I said makes perfect sense in the response to the original statement. The LGBT movement was started to gain rights for members of the community. To do this it has to have power. Power can be used for both good and bad purposes. LGBT members have used the "power" to get laws passed to stop discrimination. They are listened to and taken notice of because they have the power. ArmyOfMe said there was no "power system" in the thread title. When (as I have shown above) the LGBT is a power grouping. If it wasn't it would be a collection of people grouped together for no purpose whatsoever.
    The LGBT community is one thing, the LGBT movement is another. The LGBT community is an abstraction to group together people on the basis of certain characteristics, it doesn't imply that all of its members fight to obtain rights, nor that they are a power system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham76man
    If it wasn't it would be a collection of people grouped together for no purpose whatsoever.
    In which case it would be called UKMIX and not LGBT
    I wonder why you even write here if those are your thoughts on the people in this forum. I mean, one ought to enjoy their spare time and it doesn't seem like you do.

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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 00:09

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham76man
    When (as I have shown above) the LGBT is a power grouping. If it wasn't it would be a collection of people grouped together for no purpose whatsoever.
    In which case it would be called UKMIX and not LGBT
    That makes no sense cos UKMIX does have a purpose as a group, aren't we all here cos we love music??? UKMIX is a music forum, that's the point :-?
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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 00:46

    ArmyOfOne you started this thread with a question. But it seems you have the same inbuilt prejudices as those who question who should be a member of the LGBT.

    To answer your question as to why I use this forum is that I find it interesting. I find that a great deal of the members are decent towards other people on this forum, myself included. However there are certain individuals that have got poor communication skills on this forum and behave like spoilt children. Perhaps because they are mostly aged under 29 years and still passing through puberty. There concept of life is shaded by nave experiences. This is however to be expected since they have grown up passing through puberty in the closeted environment of school. Which teaches nothing of life.

    I can credit you with poor communication skills for a start as you clearly have no idea what this smiley " " means after my comment about UKMIX. There is also no difference between the LGBT community and movement. They are both the products of the Education Culture created by people with degrees in Sociology. As I stated before the only thing special to being LGBT is sex. As they are all just human beings just grouped together by people who went to University.

    I do have questions about the nature of UKMIX since it doesn't seem to be possible to have debates on issues such as this, because some moderator will come along and shut it down with some glib statement about it breaking the rules, when it clearly isn't. Mind you on some forums this kind of thread wouldn't be allowed any case as it could upset certain religious people.
    I've said my piece and will let those with no purpose continue the debate. Till a mod shuts it down.
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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 00:48

    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty
    Quote Originally Posted by Graham76man
    When (as I have shown above) the LGBT is a power grouping. If it wasn't it would be a collection of people grouped together for no purpose whatsoever.
    In which case it would be called UKMIX and not LGBT
    That makes no sense cos UKMIX does have a purpose as a group, aren't we all here cos we love music??? UKMIX is a music forum, that's the point :-?
    I will referrer the member to the answer I just posted. But also point out that this section and this thread has nothing to do with music whatsover
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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 01:34

    The topic doesn't risk any lock if people keep on talking about LGBT issues and not how bad my communication skills are, which is clearly off topic (also intellectually dishonest and annoying, but let's not delve into it more than it deserves)

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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 02:35

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham76man
    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty
    Quote Originally Posted by Graham76man
    When (as I have shown above) the LGBT is a power grouping. If it wasn't it would be a collection of people grouped together for no purpose whatsoever.
    In which case it would be called UKMIX and not LGBT
    That makes no sense cos UKMIX does have a purpose as a group, aren't we all here cos we love music??? UKMIX is a music forum, that's the point :-?
    I will referrer the member to the answer I just posted. But also point out that this section and this thread has nothing to do with music whatsover
    LOL good job Graham you missed my point entirely, well done

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyOfMe
    The topic doesn't risk any lock if people keep on talking about LGBT issues and not how bad my communication skills are, which is clearly off topic (also intellectually dishonest and annoying, but let's not delve into it more than it deserves)
    Yeah, I agree, this entire conversation is off topic and is ruining the thread. Back on topic now
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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 03:05

    I don't have anything against Bi people, and I do believe it's true, not just "not brave enough to admit", but I'm not sure if I could ever date one. They were out and about it, it's discusting. :-?

    j/k it's cuz of that, I just think I couldn't handle it knowing that everyone is a potentional object of attraction, like, you can't rule girls out, but then again, maybe it would be different if it really happened to me.
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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 14:19

    Quote Originally Posted by Serby
    j/k it's cuz of that, I just think I couldn't handle it knowing that everyone is a potentional object of attraction, like, you can't rule girls out, but then again, maybe it would be different if it really happened to me.
    Mmmh, this is a problem only if you are a very jealous person. A relationship is based on trust, so I don't think it matters as long as you're sure he's faithful to you
    I'm friends with some bi girls and their boyfriends/girlfriends aren't any more jealous than they would normally be if their partners weren't bi.

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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 15:57

    Actually, maybe it'S even better to be with a bi guy, cuz after kitty, they be apreciating peens even more.

    I agree about the bottom shaming. The hoe/sloth is always the one recieving and it has to do with them beeing seen as women, and we know how women are treated when it comes to promiscuitity (or whatever's the spelling).
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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 16:20

    Quote Originally Posted by Serby
    Actually, maybe it'S even better to be with a bi guy, cuz after kitty, they be apreciating peens even more.

    I agree about the bottom shaming. The hoe/sloth is always the one recieving and it has to do with them beeing seen as women, and we know how women are treated when it comes to promiscuitity (or whatever's the spelling).

    You are right and even though I don't 'shame' bottoms etc , that system of beliefs is built into me.
    I always think of bottoms as the 'less masculine ones' naturally.
    It is usually reinforced with the media and even porn (although that is slowly changing).
    I think the LGBT community as a whole really isn't much of a community anymore. In my life experience, most gays detest eachother, openly or in a frenemy type way.

    The rise of the 'app culture' really has undone a lot of what gay men tried to do after the disgusting attitude towards gays and HIV/AIDS.

    It is such a shame to see gay clubs largely dead/devoid of anyone looking for a night out witha possible kiss (exagerration slightly).
    Now you walk into a club bar and it's a list of 'exes' (one night stands) and people that you've seen every part of and still pressed block.
    With the app culture and our presentation on that, and due to the gay community being a lot less prevalent than the straight community, you could have judged/ridiculed and blocked someone and have that dismissive attitude before you've even physically seen a person. When you do see them you already have an image of what they must be like.
    I really think it is hard being still in my twenties and feeling like an 'old romantic' in a sea opf trash.
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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 16:24

    OT, but I've problem that my both sides, being hormonal teen thinking only about sex and hopless romatic, are there at the same time, it's just that my body usually chooses the first one cuz it's much easier.

    I also dislike kweens. I'm not talking about femenine guys, that's one thing and it's okay, it's about those guys that are acting like some divas and are annoying, like stfu.
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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 16:27

    Quote Originally Posted by aaliyahman
    Quote Originally Posted by Serby
    Actually, maybe it's even better to be with a bi guy, cuz after kitty, they be appreciating peens even more.

    I agree about the bottom shaming. The ho/sloth is always the one receiving and it has to do with them being seen as a woman, and we know how women are treated when it comes to promiscuity (or whatever the spelling is).
    You are right and even though I don't 'shame' bottoms etc , that system of beliefs is built into me.
    I always think of bottoms as the 'less masculine ones' naturally.
    What does it matter? Gay guys making each other feel bad seems stupid to me, gay people are expected to feel ashamed just for being gay in the first place, it all seems so dumb to me to create another "issue". Believe it or not some gay couples don't even perform anal penetration at all, I know "shock horror".

    * I've also amended Serbz accidental typos.
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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 16:50

    There's a few more there but I left the more casual ones.

    Why did you write "sloth" though?
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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 17:28

    slut is too explicit for this forum, i guess? realising just now that that's the name of that animal lol
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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 17:35

    Come and get it Serbz he's put eye shadow on and everything.



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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 17:50

    Quote Originally Posted by Serby
    slut is too explicit for this forum, i guess? realising just now that that's the name of that animal lol
    I thought you were talking about James Arthur
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    by Mon June 8th, 2015, 18:23

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyCrazy
    Quote Originally Posted by aaliyahman
    Quote Originally Posted by Serby
    Actually, maybe it's even better to be with a bi guy, cuz after kitty, they be appreciating peens even more.

    I agree about the bottom shaming. The ho/sloth is always the one receiving and it has to do with them being seen as a woman, and we know how women are treated when it comes to promiscuity (or whatever the spelling is).
    You are right and even though I don't 'shame' bottoms etc , that system of beliefs is built into me.
    I always think of bottoms as the 'less masculine ones' naturally.
    What does it matter? Gay guys making each other feel bad seems stupid to me, gay people are expected to feel ashamed just for being gay in the first place, it all seems so dumb to me to create another "issue". Believe it or not some gay couples don't even perform anal penetration at all, I know "shock horror".

    * I've also amended Serbz accidental typos.

    It happens in every culture community. The issue isn't suddenly here, it's been going on since Ancient days. Look up pederasty. The only difference is the youth has taken on the form of a twink or an effeminate man. It's still perpetuated these days.
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