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    by » Mon August 12th, 2019, 08:31

    Quote Originally Posted by nympho View Post
    It's the weekly streams their 23 most streamed tracks received. Ranked by those getting most streams this week.

    Which means that some songs having more streams this week than some of those there (like FG, for example) are out of this ranking because they're not among their 23 most streamed songs in total.

    Yes, a bit confussing.
    Now it's not confusing, but it's such an arbitrary thing to compare. Doesn't reflect the current/actual streaming consumption for these two ladies, be it because newer songs haven't had as much time to rake up streams to get to the top, or the fact that some songs are seasonal and have minimal streams now - AIWFCIY obviously which will get 7-8m streams weekly once Xmas comes around the corner.

    Quote Originally Posted by ferrero View Post
    referencing to post #1265, wondering why these songs were not listed
    @nympho explained it.
    I have received many gifts from God,
    but this is the first time I have ever received a gift from a goddess
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    Don McLean on Madonna's version of American Pie

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    by » Mon August 12th, 2019, 09:06

    ^I understand now and agree to a certain extend though the impact is small since the songs affected are in the 100k region
    Last edited by ferrero; Mon August 12th, 2019 at 09:10.

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    by » Mon August 12th, 2019, 13:22

    @ferrero @beredy

    The user who updates Madonna's streaming is only updating her songs which have surpassed 20m total streams. Madonna currently has 23 songs that surpassed 20m streams (+ Me Against The Music which he doesn't track somehow). I then put Mariah's 23 most streamed songs against those of Madonna and get the gains that we get for those 23 songs.

    Both Madonna & Mariah have songs outside their 23 most streamed overall songs which have bigger daily and weekly gains. But for now, we omit those from the comparison and wait for Madonna to increase the number of songs with 20m streams.

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    by » Mon August 12th, 2019, 13:30

    Timeframe: 11th August, 2019 (Sunday effect)

    01 - 497,517,491 - +41,077 - 1994 - All I want for Christmas Is You
    02 - 186,679,999 - +146,962 - 2005 - We Belong Together
    03 - 131,860,265 - +115,574 - 1996 - Always be my Baby
    04 - 89,611,430 - +76,149 - 2003 - I Know what you Want
    05 - 86,737,493 - +86,383 - 1993 - Hero
    06 - 75,991,561 - +54,579 - 1995 - Fantasy
    07 - 73,707,387 - +61,617 - 1994 - Without You
    08 - 72,527,342 - +20,387 - 2013 - #Beautiful
    09 - 62,347,545 - +55,972 - 1995 - One Sweet Day
    10 - 58,074,749 - +43,245 - 2008 - Touch my Body
    11 - 57,215,179 - +207,297 - 2009 - Obsessed

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    by » Mon August 12th, 2019, 13:49

    I am rooting for Obsessed to maintain 200k till end of the year to reach 85m

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    by » Mon August 12th, 2019, 14:05

    Quote Originally Posted by ferrero View Post
    I am rooting for Obsessed to maintain 200k till end of the year to reach 85m
    I believe that by the end of December 2019, all of her top 10 songs will have surpassed 75 million streams...

    my estimation at their current daily and weekly gains: by the end of 2019

    01 - 730,000,000 - AIWFCIY (christmas est.)
    02 - 209,000,000 - WBT
    03 - 150,000,000 - ABMB
    04 - 101,000,000 - IKWYW
    05 - 101,000,000 - Hero
    06 - 87,300,000 - Obsessed
    07 - 85,000,000 - Fantasy
    08 - 83,500,000 - Without You
    09 - 82,200,000 - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) (christmas est.)
    10 - 75,500,000 - #Beautiful
    11 - 72,000,000 - AIWFCIY (ft. JB) (christmas est.)
    12 - 71,100,000 - One Sweet Day

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    by » Mon August 12th, 2019, 14:50

    @stevyy possibly! but I think your estimation for AIWFCIY is a bit too high. My estimate would be 650m to 660m

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    by » Mon August 12th, 2019, 15:12

    I'm guessing that AIWFCIY may touch 700M+ by the end of this year.
    She was kind of fragile and she had a lot to grapple with but basically she kept it all inside ...

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    by » Mon August 12th, 2019, 15:24

    is poll allowed in chart analysis @nympho? can we have one in the xmas thread?

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    by » Mon August 12th, 2019, 15:27

    Quote Originally Posted by ferrero View Post
    is poll allowed in chart analysis @nympho? can we have one in the xmas thread?
    Definitely not in August..

    Don’t bring back the Xmas thread till Q4, please.

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    by » Mon August 12th, 2019, 16:39

    Quote Originally Posted by ferrero View Post
    @stevyy possibly! but I think your estimation for AIWFCIY is a bit too high. My estimate would be 650m to 660m
    It increases its streams yearly due to the Spotify growth. I'm hoping for the 700m mark to be shattered. That would be cool. It would also bring the album to around 900m. (or more).

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    by » Mon August 12th, 2019, 18:40

    So next year Mariah will be the first 90s diva to have an album with 1B streams (excluding my queen Shaki)? that is something we need to celebrate

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    by » Tue August 13th, 2019, 12:52

    Timeframe: 12th August, 2019

    01 - 497,561,203 - +43,712 - 1994 - All I want for Christmas Is You
    02 - 186,845,168 - +165,169 - 2005 - We Belong Together
    03 - 131,988,007 - +127,742 - 1996 - Always be my Baby
    04 - 89,695,038 - +83,638 - 2003 - I Know what you Want
    05 - 86,837,210 - +99,717 - 1993 - Hero
    06 - 76,051,850 - +60,289 - 1995 - Fantasy
    07 - 73,775,396 - +68,009 - 1994 - Without You
    08 - 72,550,773 - +23,431 - 2013 - #Beautiful
    09 - 62,412,017 - +64,472 - 1995 - One Sweet Day
    10 - 58,122,716 - +47,967 - 2008 - Touch my Body
    11 - 57,440,743 - +225,564 - 2009 - Obsessed

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    by » Wed August 14th, 2019, 00:22

    Quote Originally Posted by Colombia71345 View Post
    So next year Mariah will be the first 90s diva to have an album with 1B streams (excluding my queen Shaki)? that is something we need to celebrate
    She has legit smashed in all the era. She even had a moderate streaming era hit Album in Caution
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    by » Wed August 14th, 2019, 05:42

    Quote Originally Posted by Loveguru View Post
    She has legit smashed in all the era. She even had a moderate streaming era hit Album in Caution
    I believe that the term moderate streaming era hit album has a threshold of at least 400 million streams... (Caution has 73,5 million).

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    by » Wed August 14th, 2019, 08:58

    Quote Originally Posted by stevyy View Post
    I believe that the term moderate streaming era hit album has a threshold of at least 400 million streams... (Caution has 73,5 million).
    I hope Caution gets some Grammy noms to reignite some interest in this album. IF it can match MIAM sales by early next year I'll be satisfied.

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    by » Wed August 14th, 2019, 12:04

    Quote Originally Posted by sm3 View Post
    I hope Caution gets some Grammy noms to reignite some interest in this album. IF it can match MIAM sales by early next year I'll be satisfied.
    It can ONLY surpass or match MIAM in sales in the US. MIAM has approx sold 130k in the US and 150k outside the US...

    Caution has barely sold 100k outside the US. There is also NO sign - no genre chart - in which the album is currently charting outside the US. It had completely stopped selling in early 2019 in my opinion. Up to that point it had probably sold between 3k-5k internationally per week.

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    by » Wed August 14th, 2019, 12:13

    Timeframe: 13th August, 2019

    01 - 497,606,154 - +44,951 - 1994 - All I want for Christmas Is You
    02 - 187,021,097 - +175,929 - 2005 - We Belong Together
    03 - 132,125,416 - +137,409 - 1996 - Always be my Baby
    04 - 89,783,710 - +88,672 - 2003 - I Know what you Want
    05 - 86,942,262 - +105,052 - 1993 - Hero
    06 - 76,116,957 - +65,107 - 1995 - Fantasy
    07 - 73,847,715 - +72,319 - 1994 - Without You
    08 - 72,575,190 - +24,417 - 2013 - #Beautiful
    09 - 62,479,793 - +67,776 - 1995 - One Sweet Day
    10 - 58,174,020 - +51,304 - 2008 - Touch my Body
    11 - 57,668,470 - +227,727 - 2009 - Obsessed

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    by » Wed August 14th, 2019, 13:57

    Quote Originally Posted by stevyy View Post
    It can ONLY surpass or match MIAM in sales in the US. MIAM has approx sold 130k in the US and 150k outside the US...

    Caution has barely sold 100k outside the US. There is also NO sign - no genre chart - in which the album is currently charting outside the US. It had completely stopped selling in early 2019 in my opinion. Up to that point it had probably sold between 3k-5k internationally per week.
    Yes. I was referring to US sales, I hope it can. Worldwide, that's a long shot. I hope she makes an effort promoting her next project in Europe. Last time she did was during the Memoirs era right? That's over 10 years ago!!

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    by » Wed August 14th, 2019, 15:40

    Quote Originally Posted by sm3 View Post
    Yes. I was referring to US sales, I hope it can. Worldwide, that's a long shot. I hope she makes an effort promoting her next project in Europe. Last time she did was during the Memoirs era right? That's over 10 years ago!!
    yes, but Memoirs was also ONLY promoted in the UK... so the last time she visited continental Europe for anything album related was 2008. 11 farking years ago.

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    by » Wed August 14th, 2019, 16:09

    Quote Originally Posted by stevyy View Post
    Timeframe: 13th August, 2019

    01 - 497,606,154 - +44,951 - 1994 - All I want for Christmas Is You
    02 - 187,021,097 - +175,929 - 2005 - We Belong Together
    03 - 132,125,416 - +137,409 - 1996 - Always be my Baby
    04 - 89,783,710 - +88,672 - 2003 - I Know what you Want
    05 - 86,942,262 - +105,052 - 1993 - Hero
    06 - 76,116,957 - +65,107 - 1995 - Fantasy
    07 - 73,847,715 - +72,319 - 1994 - Without You
    08 - 72,575,190 - +24,417 - 2013 - #Beautiful
    09 - 62,479,793 - +67,776 - 1995 - One Sweet Day
    10 - 58,174,020 - +51,304 - 2008 - Touch my Body
    11 - 57,668,470 - +227,727 - 2009 - Obsessed
    As much as I love Obsessed, it’s no GOAT
    Quote Originally Posted by BeeBoy View Post
    I wonder if there has ever been a thread where WBT wasn't mentioned on Ukmix

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    by » Wed August 14th, 2019, 16:50

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldmoney View Post
    As much as I love Obsessed, it’s no GOAT
    BUT the GP says it is. Don't frown.

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    by » Wed August 14th, 2019, 23:56

    Quote Originally Posted by stevyy View Post
    BUT the GP says it is. Don't frown.
    GOAT 383 milli
    Obsessed 111 milli
    Quote Originally Posted by BeeBoy View Post
    I wonder if there has ever been a thread where WBT wasn't mentioned on Ukmix

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    by » Thu August 15th, 2019, 13:59

    Timeframe: 14th August, 2019

    01 - 497,652,834 - +46,680 - 1994 - All I want for Christmas Is You
    02 - 187,199,706 - +178,609 - 2005 - We Belong Together
    03 - 132,266,893 - +141,477 - 1996 - Always be my Baby
    04 - 89,874,966 - +91,256 - 2003 - I Know what you Want
    05 - 87,049,914 - +107,652 - 1993 - Hero
    06 - 76,183,349 - +66,392 - 1995 - Fantasy
    07 - 73,921,879 - +74,164 - 1994 - Without You
    08 - 72,600,291 - +25,101 - 2013 - #Beautiful
    09 - 62,550,677 - +70,884 - 1995 - One Sweet Day
    10 - 58,226,548 - +52,528 - 2008 - Touch my Body
    11 - 57,899,743 - +231,273 - 2009 - Obsessed
    Last edited by stevyy; Thu August 15th, 2019 at 17:05.

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    by » Thu August 15th, 2019, 14:21

    Obsessed is showing great consistency so far! I thought the TikTok thingy will only give a momentary boost.
    She was kind of fragile and she had a lot to grapple with but basically she kept it all inside ...

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