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    by Fri September 15th, 2017, 17:34


    Hello!

    I hope to see you all when I start this.

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    TOP 100 ARTISTS 1997-2018!

    1. Eminem

    2. Lady Gaga
    3. Beyonce
    4. Bonnie Raitt
    5. Adele
    6. Kelly Clarkson
    7. Alicia Keys
    8. Rihanna
    9. Madonna
    10. Sia

    11. Coldplay
    12. Bruno Mars
    13. Maroon 5
    14. Janelle Monae
    15. Nicki Minaj
    16. Ariana Grande
    17. Fatboy Slim
    18. Lily Allen
    19. Shakira
    20. Christina Aguilera
    21. Pink
    22. Gwen Stefani
    23. David Guetta
    24. 98 Degrees
    25. Katy Perry
    26. Green Day
    27. Cee-Lo Green/Gnarls Barkley
    28. Josh Gracin
    29. Juanes
    30. Jay-Z
    31. Dua Lipa
    32. Limp Bizkit
    33. Stone Temple Pilots
    34. Whitney Houston
    35. Sam Feldt
    36. Sugar Ray
    37. Years and Years
    38. Ellie Goulding
    39. Dave Matthews Band
    40. Outkast
    41. Fall Out Boy
    42. Linkin Park
    43. White Stripes
    44. Drake
    45. Noisettes
    46. Kanye West
    47. Jewel
    48. Zedd
    49. John Mayer
    50. The Weeknd
    51. Black Eyed Peas
    52. Justin Timberlake
    53. Avicii
    54. Duffy
    55. Lauryn Hill
    56. Grace Potter
    57. Mariah Carey
    58. Weezer
    59. Beastie Boys
    60. Scissor Sisters
    61. Calvin Harris
    62. Lil Wayne
    63. Beck
    64. Aloe Blacc
    65. Selena Gomez
    66. Kacey Musgraves
    67. Destiny's Child
    68. Panic at the Disco
    69. ZZ Ward
    70. Martin Garrix
    71. Muse
    72. Amy Winehouse
    73. No Doubt
    74. Usher
    75. Janet Jackson
    76. Macklemore and Ryan Lewis
    77. Mya
    78. Taylor Swift
    79. Ting Tings
    80. India Arie
    81. Mary J. Blige
    82. Troye Sivan
    83. John Legend
    84. Lenka
    85. Pharrell
    86. Fitz and the Tantrums
    87. Missy Elliot
    88. Major Lazer
    89. Jessie J
    90. Alan Walker
    91. Akon
    92. Emeli Sande
    93. Kylie Minogue
    94. Franz Ferdinand
    95. Eric Hutchinson
    96. Oliver Heldens
    97. Daft Punk
    98. Lumineers
    99. Barenaked Ladies
    100. Audioslave

    101. Daughtry
    102. Nelly Furtado
    103. Yeah Yeahs Yeahs
    104. Red Hot Chili Peppers
    105. Jason Mraz
    106. Cecilia
    107. Tove Lo
    108. Avril Lavigne
    109. Shania Twain
    110. Robin Thicke
    111. Sheryl Crow
    112. Imagine Dragons
    113. Kygo
    114. Lloyd
    115. Sam Hunt
    116. Jet
    117. Tim McGraw
    118. 50 Cent
    119. Daddy Yankee
    120. Mya
    121. All-American Rejects
    122. Clean Bandit
    123. Ed Sheeran
    124. Macy Gray
    125. Evanescence
    126. Ozomatli
    127. Eve
    128. Scott Wieland
    129. Bastille
    130. Dr. Dre
    131. Goldfrapp
    132. Churchill
    133. Flo Rida
    134. Kris Allen
    135. Enrique Iglesias
    136. P. Diddy
    137. Nelly
    138. Idina Menzel
    139. Eliot Yamin
    140. fun.
    141. Shaggy
    142. Kelly Rowland
    143. Kendrick Lamar
    144. Papa Roach
    145. Fray
    146. Snoop Dogg
    147. R. Kelly
    148. Britney Spears
    149. Plain White T's
    150. Leona Lewis


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    by Sat September 16th, 2017, 01:43

    Quote Originally Posted by cheapthrills
    1. If it is something you do, how do you calculate points for a particular song in general?
    If it's a Top 20 chart, 20 points for #1, 19 points for #2, and so on.

    Quote Originally Posted by cheapthrills
    2. For an artist chart, do you distinguish between whether an artist is featured or lead? For example, Dua Lipa is featured on "Scared to Be Lonely," but Martin Garrix is the lead artist - would you qualify her for full points? Some other examples:
    a. Love the Way You Lie - Rihanna?
    b. Monster - Nicki Minaj?
    c. E.T. - Kanye West?
    For me, this has to do with how key the featured artist is to my enjoyment of the song. For all the examples listed, the featured artists play key roles (for me) so I'd give them full points.

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    3, If a song debuts in one year, but peaks in another, to which year do you attribute that song?
    To the year in which it accumulates the greater number of points. On the off chance that the points are spread out exactly evenly, then to the year in which I feel best represents my love for the song, if that makes any sense (for instance, "Drunk in Love" first hit #1 on my chart in 2013, but it got most of its plays within, and I have more memories of it from, 2014).

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    by Mon September 18th, 2017, 23:01

    Thanks, JSparks

    I like your approach to featured artists. I guess I ask because there's a small handful of artists who have a lot of top tens because they are featured often rather than lead, so it feels like their position might be inflated.

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    by Wed April 11th, 2018, 00:49

    Quote Originally Posted by cheapthrills
    Thanks, JSparks

    I like your approach to featured artists. I guess I ask because there's a small handful of artists who have a lot of top tens because they are featured often rather than lead, so it feels like their position might be inflated.
    No problem!

    Yeah, some artists shine more on other acts' songs than they do on their own. Nicki Minaj is one of my all-time favourite artists, and a huge chunk of her best verses are on others' songs (most notably "Monster" and "Bottoms Up"). It'd be tough for me to disassociate her from those songs despite the fact that she's not the lead act.
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    by Wed April 11th, 2018, 02:11

    Thanks, JSF

    I am in the process of scoring my artists, but it is taking way longer than I ever imagined

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    by Wed April 11th, 2018, 02:25

    I 'd do something different. For me just one point difference between #1 and #2 seems way too low! In general I'd give something like this:
    I tend to start with a 5 points gap between positions, at a certain point move to 4 point gap, then 3 points gap, then 2 points gap and then 1 point gap.

    Also, When there is an artist and features, what aI do is this:
    Let's say #1 song gets 100 points. If it is a solo artist, 100 points for him/her; if it is one artist + 1 feat, 75/25 as for me the lead artist is the one representing the song; then if it two equal leads, I give 50/50, but if you have clearly 1 or more leads and 1 or more feats, I digvide 75 equally between the leads and 25 equally between the feats

    ie: Charlotte Lawrence, Nina Nesbitt & Sasha Sloan - Psychopath
    Than would be 33.33% of the points for each artist

    Charlie Puth feat. Kehlani - Done For Me
    75% for Charlie, 25% fro Kehlani

    Banx & Ranx + Ella Eyre ft. Yxng Bane - Answerphone
    75% divided between Banx & Ranx and Ella Eyre, 25% for Yxng Bane


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    by Sat April 21st, 2018, 00:14

    Thanks, leo! Not sure if you will see this response, but I am only considering top ten positions. What do you think I should make the gap between them? I Kind of want to reward acts that managed to make the top ten rather than give them too much weight for havign one really successful song, so I'm trying to figure out how that could best work.

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    by Sat April 21st, 2018, 18:14

    Quote Originally Posted by cheapthrills
    2. For an artist chart, do you distinguish between whether an artist is featured or lead? For example, Dua Lipa is featured on "Scared to Be Lonely," but Martin Garrix is the lead artist - would you qualify her for full points? Some other examples:
    My 2 cents: The lead artist always gets 100% and the featured artist(s) 25%

    Points: Also, if you are only using a Top 10 then the ESC formula is simple and a known standard (12-10-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1).

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    by Mon April 30th, 2018, 21:09

    I've finally gone through all my top tens, and will be assigning artists points, so hopefully, I can finally get this started in the next few weeks.

    After the above, I think I will take JSparks suggestions for features, and assign them accordingly to my enjoyment of the song. Akon is featured on Sexy Chick, but is the vocal of the song, so I wouldn't assign him featuring credit there. However, he is more incidental in Gwen Stefanis Sweet Escape, so I would assign 25% there as trebor suggested.

    I think in scoring, I will use a modified version of trebor's Eurovision suggestion 12.10. 8. 7. 6. and then 5 for anything ranked 6-10. I am also going to count weeks at #1 and weeks in the top 10 as part of the scoring.

    I also am going to restrict placement to artists who have either had at least three top five songs or four top ten songs.

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    by Mon April 30th, 2018, 21:15

    I'm excited for this !
    Could you PM me when it starts?
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    by Mon April 30th, 2018, 21:21

    Ohh nice Look forward to following this countdown. I've no doubt that it'll be spectacular.

    Crazy Frog for #99

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    by Thu May 3rd, 2018, 00:11

    Yay, some interest!

    I will definitely PM you guys when it gets started. I am almost done doing the calculations. The way I did the calcuations seems to align with how I feel the artists so I don't think there is any need to reconfigure. There are a handful of artists whose rankings are a bit inflated, but not enough to complete change the methodology. I think I will start this at the end of the month - a nice summer countdown

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    by Wed May 16th, 2018, 06:25

    UGH, my spreadsheet with all the calculations is on my laptop which I can no longer charge. Hope I can get it working soon :(

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    by Thu May 24th, 2018, 21:51

    I was able to get my spreadsheet back so I will start this in about a week

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    by Thu May 24th, 2018, 22:13

    Quote Originally Posted by cheapthrills
    I was able to get my spreadsheet back so I will start this in about a week
    Awesome!
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    by Sat June 2nd, 2018, 06:59

    The COUNTDOWN BEGINS NOW!

    I'll bounce between the bubbling under artists and the top 100. But to finally get this going, here are the first five bubbling under artists. Ready to face the wrath










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    by Sat June 2nd, 2018, 07:08

    Holy Jesus, is that Snoop Dogg I see above Britney Spears?
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    by Sat June 2nd, 2018, 07:23

    I know! I guess I've really ignored Brit on my charts all these years. My chart started in November of 1997, so it's been around for her whole career! I was also strongly #teamChristina in the early days and thought she deserved just as much love, if not more, than Britney, so I think I took it out on her in my personal chart.

    As for Snoop, he's at least had a number one song in Beautiful. Britney only made the top five once with Oops.

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    by Sat June 2nd, 2018, 07:39

    Quote Originally Posted by cheapthrills
    I know! I guess I've really ignored Brit on my charts all these years. My chart started in November of 1997, so it's been around for her whole career! I was also strongly #teamChristina in the early days and thought she deserved just as much love, if not more, than Britney, so I think I took it out on her in my personal chart.

    As for Snoop, he's at least had a number one song in Beautiful. Britney only made the top five once with Oops.
    Only one Top 5 hit is harsh, but I'm sure there'll be loads of acts I love still to come. Lemme address these first five.

    Leona Lewis is one of my favourite talent show graduates, comfortably Top 10 in that category, and coming from a guy whose introduction to 'new' music between 2005 and 2007 came almost exclusively through American Idol, that's not a light ranking. Spirit has to be one of the best debut albums ever, but she never really captured that magic again. "Happy" was phenomenal, but Echo, overall, was pretty meh. "Bleeding Love" is probably my favourite song from her as well, though "Run" and "Happy" aren't far behind.

    I've listened to three Plain White T's songs in the last six years: "Our Time Now", "Hey There Delilah", and "1,2,3,4". "Our Time Now" is my favourite from them.

    Britney Spears is one of my great musical love affairs. I'm not blind to her obvious shortcomings, but there hasn't been a better pure pop act in the last 20 years for me. Her music helped me through some rough times, and she's an inspiration of sorts for me. I adore her.

    Zayn has put out some impressive singles as a solo act, and may prove to be the best of the 1D guys. Harry and Niall have potential, too, but Zayn's "Pillowtalk"-"It's You"-"I Don't Wanna Live Forever"-"Dusk Till Dawn" series is a tough one to beat.

    I grew up listening to Snoop Dogg's music, not of my own volition, but because hip/hop is inescapable where I live. "Drop It Like It's Hot" is a classic that I can get into, though.
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    by Sun June 3rd, 2018, 06:20

    Thanks for the comments, JSparks <3

    I think Zayn has so much potential. I hope he continues to challenge people.

    As for Britney, she's definitely a blind spot on my charts. I had come around on her by the time Womanizer came out but by then she was a decade into her career and I had missed most of the best part of her musical career. One of my great chart regrets was not charting Toxic.

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    by Sun June 3rd, 2018, 06:23

    I was going to post three artists a day, but I can see some days, it will be good to just get something posted. My eyes are burning from lack of sleep, so I will just give this a soft start with the #100 artist



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    by Sun June 3rd, 2018, 06:31

    Quote Originally Posted by cheapthrills
    One of my great chart regrets was not charting Toxic.
    Does your chart have a rule about songs being ineligible after a certain point past its release date?

    I've heard of Chris Cornell, and Soundgarden, but I'm not sure I've seen the name Audioslave before, and I'm close to positive I haven't actively listened to a song of theirs. I'll check out "Doesn't Remind Me" later.
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    by Mon June 4th, 2018, 07:51

    Quote Originally Posted by JSparksFan
    Quote Originally Posted by cheapthrills
    One of my great chart regrets was not charting Toxic.
    Does your chart have a rule about songs being ineligible after a certain point past its release date?

    I've heard of Chris Cornell, and Soundgarden, but I'm not sure I've seen the name Audioslave before, and I'm close to positive I haven't actively listened to a song of theirs. I'll check out "Doesn't Remind Me" later.
    Yes, generally a song has to be released in the last six months to chart, though I have made exceptions for various reasons.

    Audioslave existed for only a short time. I think I read on Wiki that Cornell had issues with the other band members (who I think were all from Rage Against the Machine?) and so they disbanded. The remaining members went on to form another band. Apparently they reunited for one performance just a few months before his death.

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