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  • Latrice Royale

    1 3.85%
  • Manila Luzon

    3 11.54%
  • Monét X Change

    11 42.31%
  • Monique Heart

    3 11.54%
  • Naomi Smalls

    2 7.69%
  • Trinity The Tuck

    2 7.69%
  • Valentina

    3 11.54%
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    by » 04-02-19, 07:19

    Manilla fans are delusional

    1. Manila herself did not agree with Trinity about keeping the best queen in weeks ago and she said she will play it by her own rules.
    2. She was ALWAYS going to save Latrice no matter who was in the bottom
    3. It's a game and competitition

    miss me with that messy logic
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    by » 04-02-19, 10:51

    Quote Originally Posted by Loveguru View Post
    Manilla fans are delusional

    1. Manila herself did not agree with Trinity about keeping the best queen in weeks ago and she said she will play it by her own rules.
    2. She was ALWAYS going to save Latrice no matter who was in the bottom
    3. It's a game and competitition

    miss me with that messy logic
    1. That was on her 1st win and, in the end, she chose the weakest: Gia.
    She then chose the weakest (Valentina) on week 5. So, seriously, that point makes no sense in here. That conversation on her 1st win (which was more of a producers drama decission) was not even taken into account afterwards. She was fair with her eliminations. Using this as an excuse it’s in fact delisional, imo.
    2. She chose Latrice over Monet on week 4 because it’s her friend but also because she though she was better.
    No one would have come after Naomi with so much hate in the event she had eliminated Manila to save her best friend. That would have been, to some point, understandable.
    But Latrice isn’t her best friend. It’s in fact Manila the one she admired so much.
    3. Yes, it’s a game and a competition, but, as in every competition you decide if you want to play fair or dirty to get to the top. And she played her cards wrong.

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    by » 04-02-19, 10:55

    ^^^ Manila did keep on rambling about eliminating the biggest competitor. That storyline wasn't just kept to the episode with her first win though. And even on Whatcha Packin she confirmed she still thinks it's smart to eliminate the biggest competitor and it was a viable strategy on her part. Things might have been played out a bit more with a little help of the producers, but let's not act like they invented the thing and patched it onto Manila.

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    by » 04-02-19, 11:03

    Manila never played dirty. Never.

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    by » 04-02-19, 11:12

    Did Manila ever ramble on about getting rid of competition, or did she just say she’ll be saving her friends? There’s a difference.

    Also Naomi doesn’t owe Latrice anything. It’s not like Latrice is best friends with Naomi and chose to send Valentina home for that reason. She sent Valentina home because she wasn’t playing as well as she should have or at least as good as Naomi. Also it seemed Naomi and Manila were good friends, how many times did we hear Naomi call Manila a legend?

    And y’all need to stop acting like sending the strongest home is good strategy. How? They’ve a target on their back and unless they perform their best they are out - especially the case for Naomi now.

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    by » 04-02-19, 11:37

    Yeah, Naomi sending Manila home doesn't make sense at all. The only thing that may change through that is that she'll be in the Top4, as Trinity, Monet and Monique have better stats than her while Latrice doesn't. If she would have sent home Latrice instead, she would have been the weakest link from that moment on.

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    by » 04-02-19, 11:58

    Also, Naomi at the start of the episode thanking Latrice and Trinity for being fair and voting based on track record (in their decision to send home Valentina).

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    by » 04-02-19, 12:31

    Quote Originally Posted by biscuits View Post
    Manila never played dirty. Never.
    Who's saying that she did?

    The only thing that hurt her was doing what Morgan did - saying out loud that she might vote out the strongest one out. We saw how Morgan made everyone else uneasy and that's why she was the first one out. Manila should've kept a mental note on that and just pull out the lipstick out of the blue if she had the same strategy in mind.

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    by » 04-02-19, 12:32

    Quote Originally Posted by biscuits View Post
    Also, Naomi at the start of the episode thanking Latrice and Trinity for being fair and voting based on track record (in their decision to send home Valentina).
    Trinity kind of read her on that immediately saying it had nothing to do with saving her, but that she just wants to keep the strongest people here. I'd love to see the whole chat. Kind of makes me think Trinity had a sneaking suspicion about Naomi.

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    by » 04-02-19, 12:48

    I am gutted Manilla has gone, I'm not that interested in who wins now - same as when Dela left AS3.

    I have to say it was pretty badass on Naomi's part though! The producers must have crapped themselves as she's blown the competition apart. Ru told her to stop playing it sweet and safe do something crazy...so she did! She's basically been edited out of this season, it must have been obvious during filming that she was being totally overlooked... I like the idea that this was her middle-finger in return.

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    by » 04-02-19, 13:04

    ^ Yes, I think what Ru said may be a reason for Naomi's choice as well.

    btw, I loved the chat between Ru and Monique.

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    by » 04-02-19, 13:34

    That was a hard decision to stomache. There goes my winner.

    It was pretty satisfying though to see that Trinity and I reacted equally while watching the elimination.
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    by » 04-02-19, 13:36

    Quote Originally Posted by nympho View Post
    1. That was on her 1st win and, in the end, she chose the weakest: Gia.
    She then chose the weakest (Valentina) on week 5. So, seriously, that point makes no sense in here. That conversation on her 1st win (which was more of a producers drama decission) was not even taken into account afterwards. She was fair with her eliminations. Using this as an excuse it’s in fact delisional, imo.
    2. She chose Latrice over Monet on week 4 because it’s her friend but also because she though she was better.
    No one would have come after Naomi with so much hate in the event she had eliminated Manila to save her best friend. That would have been, to some point, understandable.
    But Latrice isn’t her best friend. It’s in fact Manila the one she admired so much.
    3. Yes, it’s a game and a competition, but, as in every competition you decide if you want to play fair or dirty to get to the top. And she played her cards wrong.

    Let's not be delusional

    1. She was going to save Latrice regardless she made that CLEAR. Latrice v Trinity. She was going to save Latrice. Also saying you are saying your friend is a DIFFERENT KINDA OF PLAYING THE BLOODY GAME. Also she also made it clear that there are no rules all stars and also said it before she was also thinking strategic... there is footage.

    2. Week 4 Monet had an top 2 win and that was her first bottom. Latrice had a challenge win then so not exactly sure were you pulled that arguement from.

    3. Also eliminating a contestent is NOT playing dirty. Playing dirty involves sabotage lol.
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    by » 04-02-19, 13:39

    Quote Originally Posted by biscuits View Post
    Manila never played dirty. Never.

    She also did not agree to the send the weakest link home narrative so ....
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    by » 04-02-19, 13:40

    Manila is better than this anyway. The crown would have been nice for sure, but she’ll go down in herstory as the most robbed queen, along with Shangela

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    by » 04-02-19, 13:46

    Manila played it emotionally once, in a lip sync she didn’t even win.

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    by » 04-02-19, 13:49

    Which makes this outrage from the fandom silly then if people CAN change rules.

    TBH this is much more different than Shangela who can sorta claim the robbed thing because the eliminated queens did the dirty work.

    This however was fair game. If Latrice had stayed.. Naomi would have been out however this way if she wins this week... she has a good case moving forward.

    Bottom once 2 wins and always safe and some times high..

    Brown cow stunning decision and I am not even her fan
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    by » 04-02-19, 14:11

    I was shook by the elimination, so shook I unfollowed Naomi on social media! But then Manila's new music video for "Go Fish" came out and Naomi features heavily in it. That really made me rethink taking the show so seriously. While it's nice to have our faves win 100,000 dollars it's not the end of the world, plus Manila did walk away with 15,000 dollars.
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    by » 04-02-19, 15:35

    Manila is a diamond of a character. She’s very loyal to her friends and always takes it down a notch when throwing shade.

    Her poker-esque runway was minimalistic to be fair but the overall performance should have saved her.

    Naomi and Monique should be eliminated next. I want Trinity, Monét and Latrice to be Top 3.
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    by » 04-02-19, 15:38

    Quote Originally Posted by Loose View Post
    Naomi and Monique should be eliminated next. I want Trinity, Monét and Latrice to be Top 3.
    It's AS. There will be top 4.

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    by » 04-02-19, 15:44

    Monet is about 2 seasons too far into the competition.

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    by » 04-02-19, 16:43

    Quote Originally Posted by jason2379 View Post
    Monet is about 2 seasons too far into the competition.

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    by » 04-02-19, 17:04

    Quote Originally Posted by biscuits View Post
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    As for Monet, why are you guys hating on her so much? She's slaying plus she's hilarious.
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