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    by » 08-11-18, 18:14

    Urban AC:
    15 13 MARIAH CAREY With You 864 690 +174 4.222

    +37 Spins
    +43 Bullet
    +0.275 Audience

    Adult Contemporary:
    13 11 MARIAH CAREY With You 516 387 +129 1.828

    +36 Spins
    +14 Bullet
    +0.103 Audience

    Hot AC:
    43 39 MARIAH CAREY With You 286 230 +56 0.455

    +9 Spins
    = Bullet
    +0.007 Audience

    You got me feeling hella good, so let's just keep on dancin...

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    by » 08-11-18, 19:04

    It seems she could have a top 10 both on Billboard AC and Billboard Adult R&B by the album release week...

    At least they could introduce the song (in the event she promotes it) as “the R&B Top 10 hit”...

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    by » 08-11-18, 19:12

    Quote Originally Posted by nympho
    It seems she could have a top 10 both on Billboard AC and Billboard Adult R&B by the album release week...

    At least they could introduce the song (in the event she promotes it) as “the R&B Top 10 hit”...
    which used to have a lot of merit 30 years ago. It is still an achievement for Mariah or anyone who would accomplish that in their core audience formats. Imagine Madonna getting a Pop Radio top 10 radio single... I would build my entire promo campaign around that.

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    by » 08-11-18, 19:15

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    Well, being completely honest, the big accomplishment would be having a Top 10 in R&B/Hip-Hop Songs... the main chart.
    But since streaming is counted, that chart is basically Hip-Hop Songs. They should change the name, as R&B songs have no chance there now...
    So a Top 10 in R&B songs or Adult R&B will do.

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    by » 09-11-18, 02:34

    Chart wise, my expectations are low. I think around 60K.

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    by » 09-11-18, 02:41

    I think she'll do the same as her last album, probably between 55-60K SPS.

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    by » 09-11-18, 02:50

    Looking at ticket sales for the bundle sale, having next to no streams and the last album opening I would imagine this will open somewhere between 40k-50k

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    by » 09-11-18, 02:59

    Quote Originally Posted by biscuits
    Would 50K be enough for top 5?
    Probably not, most likely 6-7

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    by » 09-11-18, 03:00

    It’s weird that they’re not even trying tho.
    It feels like Liberation all over again. She’s just releasing some good materials without trying to “make it happen” which makes sense tbh

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    by » 09-11-18, 03:02

    Quote Originally Posted by Marchum
    It’s weird that they’re not even trying tho.
    It feels like Liberation all over again. She’s just releasing some good materials without trying to “make it happen” which makes sense tbh
    Yeah this is extremely reminiscent of the Liberation era

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    by » 09-11-18, 03:04

    With You should finally pass 3M views today

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    by » 09-11-18, 06:14

    Quote Originally Posted by stevyy
    Quote Originally Posted by nympho
    It seems she could have a top 10 both on Billboard AC and Billboard Adult R&B by the album release week...

    At least they could introduce the song (in the event she promotes it) as “the R&B Top 10 hit”...
    which used to have a lot of merit 30 years ago. It is still an achievement for Mariah or anyone who would accomplish that in their core audience formats. Imagine Madonna getting a Pop Radio top 10 radio single... I would build my entire promo campaign around that.
    Probably promo it has the #1 R&B album, which is what they did with MIAM for all of one week. I am still hoping she is able to snatch Ella Mai's 69K opening. That'd be a major accomplishment for me.

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    by » 09-11-18, 07:41

    How are the updated tour ticket sales looking like?

    How are the pre-order sales thus far

    I hope the first week sales get to above 60k preferably 80k.

    Lets see whether she'll be having some major promo and live performances since on the streaming front things seem dead.

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    by » 09-11-18, 07:53

    I think this is opening in best case scenario with 70k , including SPS . By the way , Michael Bublé is also having a ticket bundle, he announced an extensive North American tour starting in February.

    There's absolutely no hype at all for Caution to be honest, only her die hard fanbase is excited about this new album, I would say most of her casual fan base is not even aware of this release. She should have a much better roll out. :s

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    by » 09-11-18, 08:21

    There are gonna be so many excuses. I’m already rolling eyes

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    by » 09-11-18, 08:26

    Quote Originally Posted by biscuits
    There are gonna be so many excuses. I’m already rolling eyes
    And now the lambs will jump on the Buble bundle and say it's not fair.

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    by » 09-11-18, 08:46

    Quote Originally Posted by biscuits
    There are gonna be so many excuses. I’m already rolling eyes
    It depends.
    If the release week comes and she has no TV promo and people say that affected her debut sales, that won’t be an excuse.
    If she ends below some other albums on BB200 despite selling much more pure copies just because of streaming and people complain about it, that won’t be an excuse.
    If people talk about what a bad single choice With You was, that won’t be an excuse...
    If people talk about what a terrible, terrible idea it was to release an album in mid November for someone like her, and in such a busy week, when those same numbers would mean a much better position in Spring or Summer, that won’t be an excuse.

    All those are facts.

    There could be as well lots of absurd excuses and delusional thinking, that’s for sure. It doesn’t mean that, without all of the above mentioned, the album would have smashed.

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    by » 09-11-18, 08:58

    Quote Originally Posted by Parkelife
    Quote Originally Posted by biscuits
    There are gonna be so many excuses. I’m already rolling eyes
    And now the lambs will jump on the Buble bundle and say it's not fair.
    Lambs can’t really go down that route as both have ticket bundles.

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    by » 09-11-18, 09:14

    I honestly don't know what TeamMariah have planned. But they need to get their $#!t together .

    We are 1 week from the album release and nothing.
    They didn't even push a 2nd single.

    I'm hoping they have a secret plan.....
    "Music starts with M and ends with C"

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    by » 09-11-18, 10:38

    Worldwide Mariah will sell more, especially in Asia, she already has a #1s and records to her name, i dont think she is that obssesed with charts like b4 when she was 25 YO, she is a bussiness woman and now its all about the money, so i think she is doing her best in China and other Asian countries and collect as many coins coz US wont give her that much.
    ( we all know this)
    i undestand her, and i just made peace with my mind and heart about charts positions a long time ago too, though i would love to get one.

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    by » 09-11-18, 16:05

    i want to adress the fact that the only people who try to come up with excuses and why they don't work are other people's fans in this thread. It also gets on my nerves when people have imagined conversations with lambs who do not engage in such conversations - phony conversations - only so they can roll their eyes at the delusional lambs.

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    by » 09-11-18, 16:13

    “With You” is top 10 (#10) on AC radio, her first top 10 at that format since IWTKWLI in 2009.

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    by » 09-11-18, 16:13

    I have a really bad feeling about her first week sales. I think they could potentially be dire and the lambs will be the only thing that saves her as they will buy multiple copies. There’s been zero hype this era and the GP don’t even seem to know she has a single out or an album coming. The thing about the older divas is that the only thing that matters is big first week sales as they never manage to have much longevity really.
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