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    by Tue September 17th, 2019, 09:01

    @Million

    70k is what Shallow sold pre-album release (12k+58k).
    For albums certifications is 1/10, so 7k units. Not 70k.

    I don’t think RIAA is making exceptions with user generated videos...

    I think YouTube official videos and audios of the ASIB add around 1.7 billion.
    20% of that coming from US = 340 million views = 226k units. Plus pre-album sales and streams, 250k max, imo.

    2,192,000 + 250,000 = 2,442,000

    When I said 2.5M I was making a rough, rounded estimation. (And your number, 2,592,000, is almost 100k higher anyway).

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    by Tue September 17th, 2019, 09:58

    Quote Originally Posted by Million View Post
    Hello was released in mid-October 2015 and was #6 on the Swiss year-end list, so it's not guaranteed, apart from the fact that it's almost impossible for her to repeat a Hello sized smash again.
    Same could have been said for Shallow/Poker Face last year, so never underestimate big acts.

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    by Tue September 17th, 2019, 12:03

    Quote Originally Posted by nympho View Post
    @Million

    70k is what Shallow sold pre-album release (12k+58k).
    For albums certifications is 1/10, so 7k units. Not 70k.

    I don’t think RIAA is making exceptions with user generated videos...

    I think YouTube official videos and audios of the ASIB add around 1.7 billion.
    20% of that coming from US = 340 million views = 226k units. Plus pre-album sales and streams, 250k max, imo.

    2,192,000 + 250,000 = 2,442,000

    When I said 2.5M I was making a rough, rounded estimation. (And your number, 2,592,000, is almost 100k higher anyway).
    You have your estimates and I have mine, nobody knows the correct number, because we don't know if really only official views count for the certificates (it's in the rules, but we know how the industry works), and also, we don't know if only 20% of total views come from the US.

    I didn't just talk about Shallow's pure sales first week (70k) but its SPS, which encompasses the first week's pure sales + audio and video streams. Estimates are estimates, the only exact number I provided is Billboard units.

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    by Tue September 17th, 2019, 12:21

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowplay View Post
    Same could have been said for Shallow/Poker Face last year, so never underestimate big acts.
    And what about it? Your comparison was meaningless, because my point was that when she released Hello, Adele came from 21 and had all that hype around her back in the day, now she comes from 25, an album that was inferior in both sales and impact compared to 21, and she has huge and real chances of not repeating a big hit like Hello was. The situation between her and Gaga is also not comparable as Gaga had a big successful movie to promote Shallow, although that's not the real reason why Shallow became so huge. I'm not underestimating Adele's power, i'm just saying the truth.
    Last edited by Million; Tue September 17th, 2019 at 12:28.

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    by Tue September 17th, 2019, 13:26

    Still, she sold more than 20m copies with that "inferior" album, with a good lead single, it will outsell Shallow and other big hits in 2-3 weeks.
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    by Tue September 17th, 2019, 16:44

    Quote Originally Posted by spiritboy View Post
    Still, she sold more than 20m copies with that "inferior" album, with a good lead single, it will outsell Shallow and other big hits in 2-3 weeks.
    This is just an unsupported assumption, by the way, we're in a topic about Lady Gaga's A Star Is Born era, not about something related to Adele, can you stay on topic? Thanks.
    Last edited by Million; Tue September 17th, 2019 at 16:46.

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    by Tue September 17th, 2019, 17:48

    Quote Originally Posted by Million View Post
    This is just an unsupported assumption, by the way, we're in a topic about Lady Gaga's A Star Is Born era, not about something related to Adele, can you stay on topic? Thanks.
    It was actually about Shallow's chances of being #1 on Swiss Year End Charts. Nothing is guaranteed at this point.
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    by Tue September 17th, 2019, 18:02

    It's easier to sell a lot if you have a period of a whole year instead of just a few months or weeks, but yes, technically, a song could become the No. 1 seller of the year with just one week. Think of something like 'Candle In The Wind', 'Only Time' or 'Time To Say Goodbye': Tragedies can help a single selling a lot of copies in a very short time. Or a very big and unexpected comeback...
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    by Tue September 17th, 2019, 19:33

    Spain
    30 (27) 49 ASIB

    78 (78) 50 Shallow

    Iceland
    28 (29) 48 ASIB

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    by Tue September 17th, 2019, 19:54

    Canada
    27 (22) 49 ASIB

    41 (28) 50 Shallow (10 Post Malone songs debuted above ��) * needs 3 more weeks and it will become her longest charting song there surpassing Poker Face*

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    by Tue September 17th, 2019, 22:20

    Quote Originally Posted by spiritboy View Post
    It was actually about Shallow's chances of being #1 on Swiss Year End Charts. Nothing is guaranteed at this point.
    You tried to use Adele, but you failed because even Hello wasn't #1 at Switzerland's year-end, besides the fact that she's not guaranteed to comeback this year. Shallow has big chances to get the #1. Let's stay on topic now.

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    by Tue September 17th, 2019, 22:26

    Quote Originally Posted by Moella View Post
    Canada
    27 (22) 49 ASIB

    41 (28) 50 Shallow (10 Post Malone songs debuted above ��) * needs 3 more weeks and it will become her longest charting song there surpassing Poker Face*
    Do you know if Sweet But Psycho became recurrent? I guess so.

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    by Tue September 17th, 2019, 22:42

    Quote Originally Posted by Million View Post
    Do you know if Sweet But Psycho became recurrent? I guess so.
    Yes it’s gone

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    Portugal[2 weeks]
    31 (26) 49 ASIB

    55 (45) 50 Shallow

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    by Tue September 17th, 2019, 23:02

    Quote Originally Posted by Moella View Post
    Canada
    27 (22) 49 ASIB

    41 (28) 50 Shallow (10 Post Malone songs debuted above ��) * needs 3 more weeks and it will become her longest charting song there surpassing Poker Face*
    Unfortunately it will leave the chart with 52 weeks, as it has no strength to return to the top 25. A whole year on the chart just like Poker Face, absolutely amazing.

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    by Yesterday, 05:55

    Quote Originally Posted by Million View Post
    SWITZERLAND

    20 (23) 50 Shallow

    38 (45) 49 ARUTW
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    Swiss Album Charts

    29 (24) 49 A Star Is Born

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    by Yesterday, 06:42

    Will she start a new era while ASIB is still going strong or will she let this one die out before new music? I'd say ASIB will do great during Christmas period.
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    by Yesterday, 07:33

    ^ I think she will release the lead single later this year with the album coming early 2020, probably around February. So the new album could still benefit from ASIB's success (Grammys hype; she'll be nominated and has something new out = perfect timing for promo) and ASIB has still room to 'breathe' during Christmas.

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    by Yesterday, 08:45

    Quote Originally Posted by CRYPTIQUE View Post
    Shallow is now certified Platinum in Germany.
    Nothing for the album, though?

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    by Yesterday, 10:23

    Quote Originally Posted by nympho View Post
    Nothing for the album, though?
    No but the August report is not out yet so maybe it will include other certifications for her

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    by Yesterday, 12:08

    Hello everybody.

    I need your help!

    It worked last time for ARUTW (And Shallow)

    I just tweeted Spotify France for them to add INLA in the playlist "Hits du moment"

    It's the third single here in France.

    Can you all please RT this tweet?

    https://twitter.com/ViviLittleM/stat...76102006743040

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    by Yesterday, 15:12

    Quote Originally Posted by ViviLittleM View Post
    Poland ASIB 4x Platinum today - 80k
    Wow 20k away from Diamond will be her second Diamond album in the country ��

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    by Yesterday, 18:24

    Austria
    41 (39) 48 ASIB

    67 (69) 49 Shallow

    Denmark
    14 (10) 44 ASIB

    OUT (35) 39 Shallow *her second longest running song in Denmark after Just Dance (44 weeks)*

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    by Yesterday, 21:54

    Quote Originally Posted by Moella View Post
    Wow 20k away from Diamond will be her second Diamond album in the country ��
    She will be the third female artist to have two diamond albums in Poland.

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