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    by » 23-10-18, 15:09

    Tracy Chapman sues Nicki Minaj for copyright infringement
    Minaj's song "Sorry" samples Chapman's "Baby Can I Hold You" without permission

    Despite her best efforts, Nicki Minaj was unable to clear a collaboration with Nas called “Sorry” in time for the release of her latest effort, Queen. “Sorry” is built around a sample of Shelly Thunder’s track of the same name, which is a cover of Tracy Chapman’s “Baby Can I Hold You”. According to Minaj, Chapman refused to grant her permission to sample the track. Though “Sorry” was left off of Queen, Minaj sent the track to New York DJ Funkmaster Flex, who played it on his radio show.

    Now, Chapman has filed a lawsuit against Minaj, according to TMZ. Chapman is reportedly seeking statutory damages as well as an order prohibiting Minaj from ever releasing the song again. Chapman contends “Sorry” comprises half of the lyrics and vocal melody of her own song, and that she repeatedly denied Minaj’s request for clearance. She points to Minaj’s own tweet in which she said, “Sis said no,” after learning Chapman had declined her request.
    In a since-deleted tweet, Minaj said she “had no clue [‘Sorry’] sampled the legend [Chapman]” and sent a plea over social media asking Chapman to clear the song — all to no avail.
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    by » 26-10-18, 05:04

    this is stupid. if she wins the law suit she gets like no money because the song hasn't really generated anything
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    by » 27-10-18, 13:33

    Team Tracy here. Minaj was not respectful acting the way she did. No is NO.
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    by » 27-10-18, 13:59

    She will win basically nothing… what damages were done… Tracey Chapman has no career to damage in 2018

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    by » 27-10-18, 14:04

    Quote Originally Posted by Loveguru
    this is stupid. if she wins the law suit she gets like no money because the song hasn't really generated anything
    Yeah it's a dumb ass lawsuit. Tracy has already denied the sample, the song isn't getting commercially released.

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    by » 27-10-18, 14:04

    Quote Originally Posted by Loveguru
    this is stupid. if she wins the law suit she gets like no money because the song hasn't really generated anything
    Quote Originally Posted by Ewokguy15
    She will win basically nothing… what damages were done… Tracey Chapman has no career to damage in 2018
    Statutory damages under US copyright laws can be up to $150,000 - it doesn't matter what the song has generated, the act itself would result in the fine. And besides, you can't just use someone's work without their permission and not face consequences - it's ludicrous to suggest that Tracy is in the wrong here.

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    by » 27-10-18, 14:09

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne
    And besides, you can't just use someone's work without their permission and not face consequences - it's ludicrous to suggest that Tracy is in the wrong here.
    That's basically been mixtape culture for decades though. Artists like Tracy getting precious about their work being sampled like that threatens to kill the culture.

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    by » 27-10-18, 15:01

    Quote Originally Posted by urbanmusik
    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne
    And besides, you can't just use someone's work without their permission and not face consequences - it's ludicrous to suggest that Tracy is in the wrong here.
    That's basically been mixtape culture for decades though. Artists like Tracy getting precious about their work being sampled like that threatens to kill the culture.
    It's a tricky one, I don't accept that culture overrides a person's right to protect their own work (though I acknowledge that I'm probably not well versed on the mixtape culture you cite).

    That song (and associated melody, lyrics, structure etc) are Tracy's intellectual property - Nicki sought to sample it, and was declined. She then went ahead anyway - that's not cool.

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    by » 30-10-18, 02:42

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne
    Quote Originally Posted by Loveguru
    this is stupid. if she wins the law suit she gets like no money because the song hasn't really generated anything
    Quote Originally Posted by Ewokguy15
    She will win basically nothing… what damages were done… Tracey Chapman has no career to damage in 2018
    Statutory damages under US copyright laws can be up to $150,000 - it doesn't matter what the song has generated, the act itself would result in the fine. And besides, you can't just use someone's work without their permission and not face consequences - it's ludicrous to suggest that Tracy is in the wrong here.
    yea but the fine is relative though...


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    by » 30-10-18, 02:43

    To my understanding this song is not available on any platform correct? it just leaked?
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    by » 30-10-18, 13:07

    Quote Originally Posted by Loveguru
    To my understanding this song is not available on any platform correct? it just leaked?
    If it leaked and has Tracy's work in it, it means Nicki used the sample after Tracy said no = unlawful.
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    by » 31-10-18, 06:03

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikerocha
    Quote Originally Posted by Loveguru
    To my understanding this song is not available on any platform correct? it just leaked?
    If it leaked and has Tracy's work in it, it means Nicki used the sample after Tracy said no = unlawful.


    You can use people's work without their consent .... you just can't use their work for money or self gain. The fact that it leaked means Nicki didn't release it so not sure what your point is?
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    by » 05-11-18, 17:07

    Tbh I bet they made the song then seeker permission. It’s not that deep to be doing all this.
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    by » 05-03-19, 06:31

    it's the principle, not the money!

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