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    by » 14-03-19, 19:40

    Quote Originally Posted by DOSSOME View Post
    I think you're just deliberately choosing to misunderstand what Biscuits said and actually even took time to clarify shortly afterwards
    I wanted to point out what horrible things he was actually saying.
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    by » 14-03-19, 19:45

    Quote Originally Posted by DnBLover View Post
    Honestly, everyone is losing their time here.
    All of this has been discussed before. "New evidence" is just a new iteration of previous one.
    !!!!!!
    Nobody is saying anything new... The "MJ stans" vs "MJ haters" approach leaves very little room for civil debates

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    by » 14-03-19, 19:46

    Quote Originally Posted by biscuits View Post
    Just like people have a vendetta against MJ, some people have one against me.
    Stop feeling sorry for yourself. You know very well, I've nothing against you personally. We post in a lot of the same topics and we share a love for Janet.
    As for Michael, I still play MJ's music and I don't plan on throwing away my huge collection. But I'm not willing to turn a blind eye.

    Quote Originally Posted by biscuits View Post
    I don’t think I will get an apology for the things you said, which is disappointing.
    Well, I'm sorry for the miscommunication. Thanks for explaining MJ may abuse children as long as they're not yours.
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    by » 14-03-19, 19:51

    Quote Originally Posted by RayRay View Post
    Stop feeling sorry for yourself. You know very well, I've nothing against you personally. We post in a lot of the same topics and we share a love for Janet.
    As for Michael, I still play MJ's music and I don't plan on throwing away my huge collection. But I'm not willing to turn a blind eye.



    Well, I'm sorry for the miscommunication. Thanks for explaining MJ may abuse children as long as they're not yours.
    Why say sorry for miscommunication then follow it up with a nasty comment? Makes no sense to me.
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    by » 14-03-19, 19:55

    Justice can do what is right to the person (where they are alive off course) but nothing will take away the fact that people like MJ and R Kelly have blessed us with jams.
    I’ll continue listening to them. I don’t know about y’all but I don’t picture underage sex and nude images when I listen to their music (even after the recent documentaries).
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    by » 14-03-19, 20:01

    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBreakaway View Post
    Why say sorry for miscommunication then follow it up with a nasty comment? Makes no sense to me.
    He wants me to say sorry, so I do. Doesn't mean I don't see what biscuits is actually still saying.
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    by » 14-03-19, 20:02

    Quote Originally Posted by RayRay View Post
    He wants me to say sorry, so I do. Doesn't mean I don't see what biscuits is actually still saying.
    I don't think that's what he was saying. You've made a few nasty remarks to him. I don't want to argue with you because I like you, I just think you've said a couple of things that have been low blows.
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    by » 14-03-19, 20:06

    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBreakaway View Post
    Why say sorry for miscommunication then follow it up with a nasty comment? Makes no sense to me.
    In Portuguese I would say "if RayRay bites his tongue, he will die poisoned".
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    by » 14-03-19, 20:10

    Quote Originally Posted by DnBLover View Post
    In Portuguese I would say "if RayRay bites his tongue, he will die poisoned".
    Still, you don't mind others who posted way more poisoned posts in here.

    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBreakaway View Post
    I don't think that's what he was saying. You've made a few nasty remarks to him. I don't want to argue with you because I like you, I just think you've said a couple of things that have been low blows.
    Maybe you are right, but I find it very hard when people defend child abuse.
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    by » 14-03-19, 20:12

    Quote Originally Posted by RayRay View Post
    He wants me to say sorry, so I do. Doesn't mean I don't see what biscuits is actually still saying.
    biscuits hasn't asked me to intervene, he's more than capable of looking after himself.

    But I am going to put in my two penn'orth anyway as a layman who hasn't really followed the topic before now - you've misunderstood since the moment he made the comment what he intended to say, and he's tried to correct it on at least two occasions as far as I can see since to try to help you understand what he actually meant. But you don't seem to want to accept that, either because you've completely blown out of proportion his comments and are now too far gone to back down, or you don't like him.

    I don't really care which it is, but this topic has been derailed for long enough - it either stops being a postmortem on biscuits comments and we get back to Michael Jackson or I'll lock it for good and issue the appropriate infractions accordingly.

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    by » 14-03-19, 20:26

    Quote Originally Posted by Westen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Musicology View Post
    Anything using the Sun as a reference shouldn’t be taken seriously.
    Westen constantly reposts tabloid crap debunked zillion times over the years.

    First of all, in December 2009 in response to Freedom of Information Act requests, FBI has released its investigative files on Michael Jackson, and anyone can read them on the official FBI site HERE. Therefore this NEW FBI documents mentioned by the Sun are available to the public for more than 9 years.

    Secondly, the document mentioned by The Sun is in the FBI files to document the event (from 1993) in which someone had called to inquire about a rumoured FBI investigation - Michael Jackson reportedly molested two Mexican boys in 1985 or 1986 (which was allegedly covered up because MJ was to receive an honor at the White House ). At the end of the document there is a part which Westen didn't read it: "Writer searched indices, both manual and automated for any reference to above mentioned investigation. No references were found."

    And finally, MJ received an honor at the White House at May 14, 1984:



    More about "Two Mexican Boys / FBI Coverup" you can read here:

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    by » 14-03-19, 20:44

    Documentary airing next week in France.

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    by » 14-03-19, 21:11

    we love the tea @menime123 ... it is so hot and so delicious.

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    by » 15-03-19, 02:18

    Quote Originally Posted by Westen View Post
    MJ stans clinging to Wade Robson won't change the fact that 5-7 other kids also accused that pedophile. It won't change the fact that people who worked on pedophile's defense are in jail now for threatening witnesses, getting rid of evidences etc. It won't change the fact that pedophile paid millions to the families outside of curt.

    I can't tell what's worse excuse coming from MJ stans 'books with child pornography are not against the law' or 'Wade Robson lied so other victims are not relevant'.

    Show me the evidence that the other allegations are true. Because as it stands, the only thing proven has been lies told by the Chandlers and Arvizos.

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    by » 15-03-19, 07:30

    Thank you. Let’s make this about MJ again

    although it does seem to have run its course now

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    by » 15-03-19, 16:19

    Quote Originally Posted by stevyy View Post
    we love the tea @menime123 ... it is so hot and so delicious.
    Normally u say that about another fluid
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    by » 15-03-19, 22:28

    What do people make of interviews like this?



    I know people don't take her seriously or think she is crazy but seriously why would she say these things so openly?... just for a bit of publicity/money? I guess...but...who knows? She clearly didn't care for a relationship with Michael with saying things like this...they all seem a bit messed up to me, sounds like they had it rough at home.

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    by » 15-03-19, 23:56

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyCrazy View Post
    What do people make of interviews like this?



    I know people don't take her seriously or think she is crazy but seriously why would she say these things so openly?... just for a bit of publicity/money? I guess...but...who knows? She clearly didn't care for a relationship with Michael with saying things like this...they all seem a bit messed up to me, sounds like they had it rough at home.
    Wasn't she forced to say this by her abusive ex husband?
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    by » 16-03-19, 00:07

    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBreakaway View Post
    Wasn't she forced to say this by her abusive ex husband?
    Yes. From what I remember. Didntvthe family cut them off, so she sold stories like this for payment?

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    by » 16-03-19, 02:42

    Quote Originally Posted by menime123 View Post
    Yes. From what I remember. Didntvthe family cut them off, so she sold stories like this for payment?
    I think you're right. She's spoke out since several times about how she doesn't believe it and she forced to say it. The media are dragging it up in an attempt to validate their claims.
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    by » 16-03-19, 03:41

    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBreakaway View Post
    I think you're right. She's spoke out since several times about how she doesn't believe it and she forced to say it. The media are dragging it up in an attempt to validate their claims.
    Exactly. It's the old story (already mentioned in this thread) which have been explained and debunked a billion times over the years. La Toya explained everything countless of times on TV and in the book. She was (physically and mentally) ABUSED by her then-husband Jack Gordon (shady character with a criminal record and the jail conviction). For example, in early 1993, before the Chandlers allegations against MJ, La Toya was heavily beaten (with a chair) by Gordon (who was then arrested). Read MORE.

    La Toya was forced to make the allegations against Michael. Gordon threatened to kill her, Michael & Janet if she didn't follow his orders. Gordon was trying to make a financial gain of these interviews and over the years he tried to sell random fictional stories to tabloids about MJ.

    It should be emphasized that during the 2005 trial La Toya stood by MJ and frequently accompanied him to the court.

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    by » 16-03-19, 20:25

    Paris Jackson attempted suicide. Slit her wrists. She’s in hospital.

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