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    by » Wed July 28th, 2004, 08:31

    Hello everybody, here's a new thread.

    Here you can request and/or post absolutely any chart statistics you want - but particularly I'm thinking about ones that are relating to a particular artist. If you're wanting detailed info on the UK charts only, then check out Hanboo's "Chart Histories" thread - but for anything more general and global, please post it in here.

    Now - can we end once and for all the threads requesting and/or posting either chart runs or sales figures about artists?

    Future topics will be locked, and any requests made in them posted in here.

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    by » Wed July 28th, 2004, 19:00

    A victory for common sense.
    This post is highly unlikely to be serious. Please treat it accordingly. Unless it's music-related, in which case I'm damn well right.

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    by » Wed July 28th, 2004, 19:15

    With all respect, Matthew:

    this is a CHART forum, and what we call charts only exist because records are sold, so talking about charts is to talk about sales. If the music industry was more "sincere", like in Japan, instead of only weekly chart positions we would see charts of real retail sales, and all we would talk about, when we would talk about charts would be about sales.. sales of a record, is, by the way, maybe the only OBJECTIVE aspect of this immense subject called music that can be discussed in a way to try to reach a definitive opinion about which everybody can agree, after all, numbers are numbers, and numbers aren't subject to individual tastes or opinions..

    I don't see the problem of having a thread of sales for each artist, if i am interested in only one or two artists sales why should i be forced to search for data about those particular artist amidst maybe thousands sales numbers about who knows how many artists and countries? The only way to discuss sales (and then charts) is to separate each artist information, otherwise is simply not possible to discuss this topic in a way to reach a concrete portrait of an artist global popularity...and i didn't see anyone complaining about it, by the contrary...

    Thank you

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    by » Wed July 28th, 2004, 19:55

    i am interested in only one or two artists sales why should i be forced to search for data about those particular artist amidst maybe thousands sales numbers about who knows how many artists and countries?
    Because if there are different topics for hundreds of different artists, the forum will be too full and all of the topics that are of interest to the rest of UKMIX (ie: not the chart geeks that never set foot outside the Chart Chat forum) will be lost among all the crap.

    i didn't see anyone complaining about it, by the contrary...
    Try reading the topic "Gorky's Zygotic Mynci worldwide charts & sales".
    This post is highly unlikely to be serious. Please treat it accordingly. Unless it's music-related, in which case I'm damn well right.

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    by » Wed July 28th, 2004, 20:06

    Yeah, I'm hugely in favour of a much less crap-fuelled forum.

    Anyone who doesn't like it should go sign up at: www.chartgeeksanonymous.com

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    by » Wed July 28th, 2004, 21:31

    I agree that this is a good idea. This forum had become way too cluttered with all these (insert artist here) chart histories topics.

    And if you want a specific artist, I'm sure that an index can be put on the first page of the topic, linking to the posts within the topic, much like Hanboo does in the chart histories topic.

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    by » Wed July 28th, 2004, 21:41

    Quote Originally Posted by Edu
    With all respect, Matthew:

    this is a CHART forum...
    With all respect, Edu!

    A lot of UKmixers used to come in this forum, sand now many are put off by all the mindless babble!

    And with all due respect, I don't think someone who has only made 9 posts should be telling people what should be included in the forum!
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    by » Wed July 28th, 2004, 21:47

    Yeah, it's definitely a very good idea Matthew, this has gotta be the forum I visit the least these days (bar Sport!) just because trawling through all the topics has become a bit of a nightmare since Dotmusic disappeared... So yeah, it should help tidy things up a lickle

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    by » Fri July 30th, 2004, 07:21

    Quote Originally Posted by SmashHitter
    Hi there

    Could anyone let me know any figures on Eminem's sales worldwide (singles and albums separately if possible)?

    Also, any lists of Eminem/D12 No.1s around the world would be great too.

    Thanks

    Gavin

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    by » Fri July 30th, 2004, 07:30

    Hi there

    Think my Eminem request may have caused this debate. Either way, any help on Eminem's worldwide sales and No.1s would be great.

    Gavin
    Recaps of every ARIA chart from 1983-1992. 1993 in progress:
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    https://www.facebook.com/chartbeats.au

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    by » Fri July 30th, 2004, 07:42

    No no, SmashHitter, your Eminem request didn't start it, the debate happened back when this topic started.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edu
    If i am interested in only one or two artists sales why should i be forced to search for data about those particular artist amidst maybe thousands sales numbers about who knows how many artists and countries?
    Can I propose a counter-question to that?

    If someone was only interested in the UK charts (with this being a UK site and all), why should they be forced to search through topics about countless different artists' worldwide charts and sales figures?

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    by » Fri July 30th, 2004, 12:28

    Hi matthew, here i am again

    the name of this forum is "chart chat" and not "uk charts chat", only in the latter case i would understand that any thread about charts outside uk would be a bit out of scope (nobody commented what i said, charts are sales list without the sales, if we had access to the sales numbers would be useless to discuss charts, what would be discussed would be the sales, the position on a chart depends of arbitrary rules (see the difference between the hot 100 in US and the uk list) while sales are completely objective (at least, much more than a ordered list of songs)

    Another thing Matthew, till now i only have a few posts because i'm starting and because i only post when i really believe i can give imformation that will be useful to interested persons, and if you had took a look at my posts we would see that i always give the source of my numbers, whatever i post can always be trusted almost 100%..i don't post only to raise my number of posts or to raise my position amongst posters with most posts

    When i want to talk about music per itself i go to the forum in others sites where a specific artist work is discussed


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    by » Fri July 30th, 2004, 20:21

    Quote Originally Posted by SmashHitter
    Hi there

    Think my Eminem request may have caused this debate. Either way, any help on Eminem's worldwide sales and No.1s would be great.

    Gavin
    It's easy to get the answer, http://chartbuzz.port5.com/ ,
    Singles
    Without Me hit #1 in 12 coutries (56 weeks)
    Lose Yourself hit #1 in 13 countries (41 weeks)
    Albums
    "The Eminem Show" hit #1 in 15 countries (69 weeks)
    "8 Mile" hit #1 in 5 countries (13 weeks)

    Eminem

    01) (1999) [5.5] The Slim Shady LP – (4.2 m) US, (1 m) Europe, (0.2 m) Canada, (70,000) Australia, (7,500) NZ.
    02) (2000) [15.3] The Marshall Mathers LP – (9 m) US, (5 m) Europe, (0.8 m) Canada, (0.28 m) Australia, (0.11 m) Japan, (75,000) NZ.
    03) (2002) [14.1] The Eminem Show – (8 m) US, (4 m) Europe, (1 m) Canada, (0.56 m) Australia, (0.405 m) Japan, (0.12 m) in NZ.
    04) (2002) [6.3] 8 Mile – (4.1 m) US, (1 m) Europe, (0.5 m) Canada, (0.33 m) Japan, (0.28 m) Australia, (60,000) NZ.

    (25 m) US, (11 m) Europe, (2.5 m) Canada, (1.19 m) Australia, (0.845 m) Japan,(0.263 m) NZ, racking up 40.8 million
    Biggest Seller: “The Marshall Mathers LP” & “The Eminem Show” – 15 million
    40.8 million in his career

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    by » Sun August 1st, 2004, 02:52

    Thanks for such a thorough and uncomplicated reply. Much appreciated!
    Recaps of every ARIA chart from 1983-1992. 1993 in progress:
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    by » Sun August 1st, 2004, 15:14

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisH
    Yeah, I'm hugely in favour of a much less crap-fuelled forum.

    Anyone who doesn't like it should go sign up at: www.chartgeeksanonymous.com

    that link is broken or something

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    by » Sun August 1st, 2004, 15:18

    Quote Originally Posted by Edu
    Hi matthew, here i am again

    the name of this forum is "chart chat" and not "uk charts chat", only in the latter case i would understand that any thread about charts outside uk would be a bit out of scope (nobody commented what i said, charts are sales list without the sales, if we had access to the ....


    I come here mostly to read about Uk & European charts, no more no less...

    And i wasn't coming the last few days because the Forum was flooded by petitions about artists. I like to read about that but come on... it was too much..

    Well done Matthew

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    by » Sun August 1st, 2004, 18:27

    I just wanted to say that I agree with this Matthew.

    In the past few weeks I have had to search for popular topics such as the UKMix chart, Chart Challenge and the release schedule since there was so much crap above it about sales and figures.

    Surely confining it to one topic clears up the forum and organises things so that information is easily available in one place. It would also prevent repeated requests for sales figures as well.

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    by » Tue August 3rd, 2004, 15:52

    Most Weeks At Number One-Single Chart-

    UK
    18weeks 1953/04/24 I Belive- Frankie Laine

    Italy
    20weeks 1989/09/23 Lambada- Kaoma

    Germany
    18weeks 1978/04/20 Rivers Of Babylon-Boney M.

    Canada
    46weeks 1997/09/29 Candle In The Wind 1997-Elton John

    OZ
    15weeks 1968/09/28 Hey Jude- Beatles

    Switzerland
    16weeks 1991/08/04 (Everything I Do) I Do It For You-Bryan Adams
    16weeks 1975/10/17 Claude Borelly-Jean

    France
    19weeks 1995/11/05 Gangsta's Paradise -Coolio

    USA
    Radio & Records
    12weeks 1996/08/16 I Love You Always Forever-Donna Lewis
    Billboard
    17weeks 1947/08/30 Near Me-Francis Craig And His Orchestra
    Cashbox
    13weeks 1992/12/05 I Will Always Love You-Whitney Houston
    13weeks 1994/09/03 I'Ll Make Love To You-Boyz Ii Men
    Record World
    13weeks 1977/10/15 You Light Up My Life-Debby Boone

    Japan(Oricon)
    17weeks 1968/09/23 Koi No Kisetsu-Pinky & Killers

    Those who know record of other countries desire to post.

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    by » Tue August 3rd, 2004, 17:14

    OZ
    15weeks 1968/09/28 Hey Jude- Beatles


    I thought there were no official australian charts since the Kent Music Report in 1970.

    France
    19weeks 1995/11/05 Gangsta's Paradise -Coolio


    This one is wrong, the single that spent 19 weeks on top of the French chart was Lou Bega's Mambo N°5.

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    by » Tue August 3rd, 2004, 18:01

    Austria
    17 weeks 1997/09/28 Candle In The Wind 1997

    New Zealand
    14 weeks 1978/07/07 Rivers Of Babylon-Boney M

    New Zealand 1966-1996, 1966 for "New Zealand Listener", based on results of a poll in which readers voted for their top 5 songs, (RIANZ) started on 16 May 1975.

    Sweden
    20 weeks 1977/08/12 Yes Sir, I Can Boggie-Baccara

    (GLF) Topplistan Top 20 singles 1975-1993, heard that "Shakira" broke the record??

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    by » Tue August 3rd, 2004, 18:06

    Quote Originally Posted by rikta
    France
    19weeks 1995/11/05 Gangsta's Paradise -Coolio[/b]

    This one is wrong, the single that spent 19 weeks on top of the French chart was Lou Bega's Mambo N°5.
    It should be 20 weeks, not 19 weeks.

    France
    20 weeks 1999/08/28 Mambo No. 5 (A Little Bit Of...)-Lou Bega

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    by » Tue August 3rd, 2004, 18:24

    Spain
    16 weeks 2003 Fran Perea-Uno Mas Uno Son Siete

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    by » Tue August 3rd, 2004, 18:30

    Quote Originally Posted by rikta
    OZ
    15weeks 1968/09/28 Hey Jude- Beatles[/b]

    I thought there were no official australian charts since the Kent Music Report in 1970.
    Australia
    14 weeks 05.Apr.1976 Fernando-Abba

    From Australian Chart Book 1970-1992 by David Kent.

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    by » Tue August 3rd, 2004, 18:54

    Quote Originally Posted by nelson
    Quote Originally Posted by rikta
    France
    19weeks 1995/11/05 Gangsta's Paradise -Coolio[/b]

    This one is wrong, the single that spent 19 weeks on top of the French chart was Lou Bega's Mambo N°5.
    It should be 20 weeks, not 19 weeks.

    France
    20 weeks 1999/08/28 Mambo No. 5 (A Little Bit Of...)-Lou Bega
    Are you sure about this one, Nelson?

    My database looks like this:

    Most weeks at #1 in France:

    19 Mambo N°5- Lou Bega(1999)
    18 Belle- Daniel Lavoie,Patrick Fiori & Garou(1998)
    17 Les Roi Du Monde- Various Artists(2000)
    16 Seven Seconds- Youssou N'Dour & Neneh Cherry(1994)
    16 Dur Dur D'etre Un Bebe- Jordy(1992)
    16 Ces Soirées La- Yannick(2000)
    13 Viens Boire Un P'tit Coup A La Maison- License IV (1987)
    13 Les Demons De Minuit- Images(1986)
    13 Gangsta's Paradise- Coolio Ft LV(1995)
    13 Freed From Desire- Gala (1996)

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