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    by Sat August 20th, 2005, 22:34

    hey if you have any idea or clue please help. i think the top five goes like this:

    the beatles
    elvis
    elton john
    ABBA
    led Zeppelin

    Please help if ya can

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    by Sun August 21st, 2005, 03:53

    I don't know about album sales but the top three combined sellers are Elvis,The Beatles and Bing Crosby.

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    by Sun August 21st, 2005, 03:55

    I don't know about album sales but the top three combined sellers are Elvis,The Beatles and Bing Crosby.

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    by Sun August 21st, 2005, 06:17

    i dont think Bing Crosby is in the top three, if you have numbers that could help

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    by Sun August 21st, 2005, 15:38

    Quote Originally Posted by exhale
    Totally The beatles!!!!
    Yeah, it's the beatles, but the one billion figure is very contraversial.

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    by Sun August 21st, 2005, 16:10

    Elton John has sold (albums & singles) about 280 million

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    by Sun August 21st, 2005, 17:33

    Do you think elton has sold more than Led Zeppelin. Also where do you think he is on the top 20 biggest sellers od all time
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    by Sun August 21st, 2005, 18:48

    In 1975, Elton was said to have sold 43 million albums and 18 million singles in the U.S. alone. Today, he is "certified" by the Recording Industry Association of America for sales of approximately 67 million albums. (should be higher.) It is my contention that the RIAA has seriously undercounted Elton's U.S. sales due to changes in RIAA certification methods over the years. In particular, it seems that Elton's pre-1976 U.S. sales may not have been certified at all. Therefore, I expect that Elton's U.S. sales are in the realm of at least 100 million albums.

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    by Sun August 21st, 2005, 19:50

    Quote Originally Posted by davedave
    It is my contention that the RIAA has seriously undercounted Elton's U.S. sales due to changes in RIAA certification methods over the years.
    What changes in the certifications system? And why has this affected just Elton?

    Quote Originally Posted by davedave
    In particular, it seems that Elton's pre-1976 U.S. sales may not have been certified at all. Therefore, I expect that Elton's U.S. sales are in the realm of at least 100 million albums.
    His pre-1976 releases were certified

    1971 - Gold Albums for

    Elton John
    Tumbleweed Connection
    Friends

    1972 - Gold Albums for

    Madman Across the Water
    Honky Chateau

    1973 - Gold Albums for

    Don't Shoot Me
    Goodbye Yellowbrick Road

    1974 - Gold Albums for

    Caribou
    Greatest Hits

    1975 - Gold Albums for

    Captain Fantastic
    Rock Of the Westies

    Most of these got higher certifications later, in particular, Greatest Hits which is 16x Platinum.
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    by Sun August 21st, 2005, 19:51

    yes...probably 100m only in the US - and so..over 280m Worldwide -

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    by Sun August 21st, 2005, 20:57

    well it doesnt effect just elton if effects every artist post 1990(introduction of Nelsen) it is impossible to count every album sold for anyone so RIAA has to guess and add numbers to the numbers they get from nelsen. i just think the RIAA has'nt given elton and other artists the right number. thats all

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    by Mon August 22nd, 2005, 05:39

    During June of 1960,The Hollywood Chamber Of Commerce gives Bing an award as first citizen of the Recording Industry to sell over 200 million records.During 1970,Decca Records awards Bing with a plaque that puts Bing's sales at 300.650.000 sales.

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    by Mon August 22nd, 2005, 05:47

    During the spring of 1961,Elvis is given recognition for selling over 80 million American sales at an RCA charity dinner and Variety puts Elvis' American sales at well over 100 million,during 1965.During 1969,Elvis told reporters at Vegas that he had sold over 250 million records.

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    by Mon August 22nd, 2005, 05:59

    EMI estimates The Beatles have just reached 100 million American sales and 200 million worldwide sales,during 1971.

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    by Mon August 22nd, 2005, 06:05

    Quote Originally Posted by Cass
    During June of 1960,The Hollywood Chamber Of Commerce gives Bing an award as first citizen of the Recording Industry to sell over 200 million records.During 1970,Decca Records awards Bing with a plaque that puts Bing's sales at 300.650.000 sales.
    Hey Cass thanks thats really helpful. where did u get this info please

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    by Mon August 22nd, 2005, 06:10

    EMI estimates The Beatles have just reached 100 million American sales and 200 million worldwide sales,during 1971.

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    by Mon August 22nd, 2005, 09:53

    Hi,
    The Global top 10 Music Acts, will contain, SOME of the following Acts.

    The Beatles*, Elvis Presley*, ABBA*, Queen, Bing Crosby*, Madonna*, Elton John*, Michael Jackson*, The Rolling Stones*, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, The Bee Gees, Led Zeppelin, Frank Sinatra, Whitney Houston, Julio Iglesias, & Cliff Richard. (I am NOT counting Nana Mouskouri, as I do not believe that she has sold 200 Million to 300 Million Records. I have seen no evidence for it - in ANY of my International Chart books).

    Those with a * next to them, are pretty certain to be in that Top 10 - the rest are a matter of working it out - carefully.....

    As is the ORDER of the Top 10. The Beatles, and Elvis, are certain to be Number 1, and Number 2. But who is at 1, and who is at 2? It is pretty certain, that Elvis, sold more SINGLES, than The Beatles - However, they definitely sold more ALBUMS, than he did.....

    Despite all the Hype around him, Robbie Williams, will not be in the, All Time Top 20 Acts, in my estimation. His 27 Million to 30 Million Album Sales are not enough. Nor, are his - much lower than that - Singles Sales. He means NOTHING in the USA.

    Nor will Westlife, be anywhere near the Top 10. It is claimed, that they have sold 38 Million Albums.

    Again, they mean Zero in the USA - apart from reaching Number 20 there, with, 'Swear It Again', in 1999, or so.

    With over 100 Million USA ALBUM Sales, Garth Brooks, WILL be near the Top 10 All Time Acts - but, he means practically NOTHING, outside the USA.

    Nearly all his Albums were sold within the United States.

    The Eagles, may well be close, to the Top 10 Acts too, but the bulk of their Sales were in the USA.

    Maybe 80% to 90% of them.....

    The Carpenters MAY be in the Top 20 Acts, but I do not think they would be in the Top 10. They mainly sold Albums, outside the USA. Only in the USA, were they selling lots of SINGLES as well - consistent Top 5 Singles.....They were never consistent Singles Sellers in Britain, (for example). Although they had a few Top 5 UK Singles, they never had a UK Number 1 Single.

    Colin

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    by Mon August 22nd, 2005, 18:03

    good list zeus

    do you really think Cliff has sold in excess of 200 million records

    I would have thought it was closer to 140 million

    counting a single as 1 record, an EP as 1 record and an album as 1 record

    some places i think people multiply albums by a factor of three or four to take account of the greater number of songs and value of an album versus singles - if you do that then sure Cliff will be nearer 300 million than 200.

    Cheers

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    by Mon August 22nd, 2005, 18:14

    Quote Originally Posted by Cass
    EMI estimates The Beatles have just reached 100 million American sales and 200 million worldwide sales,during 1971.

    Source?

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    by Mon August 22nd, 2005, 19:53

    Quote Originally Posted by davedave
    well it doesnt effect just elton if effects every artist post 1990(introduction of Nelsen) it is impossible to count every album sold for anyone so RIAA has to guess and add numbers to the numbers they get from nelsen. i just think the RIAA has'nt given elton and other artists the right number. thats all
    Sorry davedave, I don't understand this post.

    Soundscan and riaa are separate. Soundscan figures have nothing to do with riaa certifications.

    Would recommend you read Edu's Introduction to Worldwide Sales thread.

    Essentially, for an riaa award the record company apply to the riaa. An independent team of auditors checks the figures. These figures are albums or singles shipped to distributors - nothing to do with shop sales or soundscan.

    The introduction of soundscan in 1991 had no effect whatsoever on riaa awards.

    Elton's record companies have been applying to the riaa for awards since 1971 - there are no "missing" sales that we know of.
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    by Mon August 22nd, 2005, 21:11

    srry basil my head was in a different place when i wrote this. im just saying that RIAA has to give estimates to almost everyone right?. also i read eds worldwide sales thing and it makes alot more sence thanks.

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    by Mon August 22nd, 2005, 21:39

    Quote Originally Posted by davedave
    im just saying that RIAA has to give estimates to almost everyone right?.
    There's no estimates involved davedave. The shipment figures are audited by a team of accountants.
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    by Mon August 22nd, 2005, 21:45

    i got this from some sites. now i dont think its right so pick at it and try and make it right if ya want


    The Beatles 1,150,000,000
    Elvis Presley 1,100,000,000
    Elton John 375,000,000
    (tie)ABBA 375,000,000
    Bing Crosby 350,000,000
    Michael Jackson 275,000,000
    The Rolling Stones 250,000,000
    Pink Floyd 250,000,000
    Madonna 250,000,000
    Led Zeppelin 225,000,000
    Mariah Carey 220,000,000
    Celine Dion 215,000,000
    Whitney Houston 210,000,000
    Julio Iglesias 210,000,000
    Cliff Richard 210,000,000
    Frank Sinatra 210,000,000
    Queen 200,000,000
    Leonard Cohen 180,000,000
    Nana Mouskouri 195,000,000
    AC/DC 160,000,000
    The Jackson 5 170,000,000
    Metallica 170,000,000
    Genesis 160,000,000
    Phil Collins 155,000,000
    U2 150,000,000
    Mireille Mathieu 150,000,000
    Paul Anka 150,000,000
    David Bowie 136,000,000
    Status Quo 135,000,000
    E. Humperdinck 130,000,000
    Wei Wei 120,000,000
    Chicago 122,000,000
    Neil Diamond 120,000,000
    Garth Brooks 120,000,000
    Prince 120,000,000
    The Bee Gees 110,000,000
    Bon Jovi 110,000,000
    R.E.M. 110,000,000
    Janet Jackson 105,000,000
    Kenny Rogers 105,000,000
    Barbra Streisand 102,000,000
    Neil Young 100,000,000
    Black Sabbath 100,000,000
    Ricky Nelson 100,000,000
    Luciano Pavarotti 100,000,000
    Brenda Lee 100,000,000
    A. R. Rahman 100,000,000
    Illayaraja 100,000,000
    Barry White 100,000,000
    Deep Purple 100,000,000
    Lionel Richie 100,000,000
    Dolly Parton 100,000,000
    Donna Summer 100,000,000
    VickyLeandros 100,000,000
    Rod Stewart 100,000,000
    Aerosmith 100,000,000
    Billy Joel 100,000,000
    Fleetwood Mac 100,000,000
    Johnny Hallyday 100,000,000
    Charles Aznavour 100,000,000
    Bruce Springsteen 96,000,000
    Shania Twain 95,000,000
    Britney Spears 95,000,000
    The Eagles 90,000,000
    Bob Dylan 90,000,000
    The Ventures 90,000,000
    Earth, Wind & Fire 90,000,000
    B'z 86,000,000
    Eddy Arnold 85,000,000
    Jean-Michel Jarre 80,000,000
    Bjork 80,000,000
    Eurythmics 80,000,000
    KISS 80,000,000
    Santana 80,000,000
    Dalida 80,000,000
    Salvatore Adamo 80,000,000
    Fairouz 80,000,000
    Hank Snow 80,000,000
    Eric Clapton 80,000,000
    Stevie Wonder 80,000,000
    Boney M 80,000,000
    Spice Girls 76,000,000
    Backstreet Boys 75,000,000
    Bobby Vinton 75,000,000
    Sade 75,000,000
    Paul McCartney 75,000,000
    Chet Atkins 75,000,000
    Victor Silvester 75,000,000
    Journey 75,000,000
    Richard Clayderman 75,000,000
    Def Leppard 74,000,000
    Dire Straits 74,000,000
    Petula Clark 71,000,000
    The Carpenters 70,000,000
    Kool & the Gang 70,000,000
    Gloria Estefan 70,000,000
    Duran Duran 70,000,000
    Enya 70,000,000
    Kenny G 70,000,000
    Roberto Carlos 70,000,000
    Charley Pride 70,000,000
    Ray Conniff 70,000,000
    Ozzy Osbourne 70,000,000
    Bay City Rollers 70,000,000
    Van Halen 70,000,000
    Adriano Celentano 70,000,000

    this is only the top 100 i have 200 other ranks but i dont think we need them, if you want i can post it.

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    by Mon August 22nd, 2005, 22:26

    k Basil i guess i dont get how the hole thing works so could you explain it to me?

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