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    by Thu April 4th, 2019, 06:53

    I'm sorry but how do you magically find 7 million album sales that weren't counted? LMAO.

    That is a massive amount of albums, literally humongous. No label goes for decades magically not noticing 7 million sales weren't counted for a top-selling album they consistently recertify.

    The new certification will remain fishy no matter what 'explanation' (excuse) they try to use. Maybe Interscope can find 20 million copies of ARTPOP they looked over and it can become the biggest female album ever.
    Last edited by iHypeMusic; Thu April 4th, 2019 at 06:58.

  2. #4377

    by Thu April 4th, 2019, 17:21

    This is simply a conspiracy theory with no evidence but I think for Eagles their label actually snuck in global sales, and thus the 'newfound' sales of 7 million is just global sales tbh.

    https://chartmasters.org/2017/12/csp...y-analysis/24/
    America
    US – 30,250,000
    Canada – 3,100,000
    Argentina – N/A
    Brazil – N/A
    Mexico – N/A
    Asia – 475,000
    Japan – 300,000
    Oceania
    Australia – 600,000
    New Zealand – 175,000
    Europe – 2,370,000
    UK – 1,200,000
    France – N/A
    Germany – N/A
    Italy – 200,000
    Spain – N/A
    Sweden – 75,000
    Netherland – 150,000
    Switzerland – N/A
    Austria – N/A
    Finland – N/A
    World – 37,450,000
    ChartMasters carefully estimated its sales outside US as 7 million.

    Sony’s questions arose due to its own calculations, based on Nielsen Music data, that Their Greatest Hits had sold just 1.3 million units since 2006, with streams and track sales bringing the total to 2.3 million album equivalent units -- 6.7 million units short of the RIAA’s figure.
    The reason I think this is because labels passed off global numbers as US numbers to RIAA in the past before actually. In 2013 when they first introduced streaming to single certs it was clear the labels somehow passed off global streams as US streams.

    Justin Bieber's Baby was certified 12x Platinum, when it only sold 3.9 million at the time. Since the ratio then was 100 streams = 1 sale, that means it was certified for over 800 million streams.

    It is simply impossible the song had 800 million streams in US by May 2013. Spotify was new and it didn't even have 100 million there, and Apple Music did not exist. Any other streaming services were miniscule in popularity.

    On YouTube it had 857 million global views at the time.
    Bieber's "Baby," which has 3.9 million track sales and over 857 million views on Vevo, is now 12-times platinum.
    Meaning they counted those 857 million global views for RIAA.

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    by Fri April 5th, 2019, 10:50

    hopefully Michael "gets over" Eagles very soon again

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    by Wed April 10th, 2019, 18:17

    RIAA.com:

    https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?...search_section

    VARIOUS ARTISTS
    Title: HAMILTON (ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST RECORDING)
    Certification Date: April 4, 2019
    Label: ATLANTIC RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    6xP

    A BOOGIE WIT DA HOODIE
    Title: HOODIE SZN
    Certification Date: April 4, 2019
    Label: HIGH BRIDGE / ATLANTIC RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    SOUNDTRACK
    Title: AUSTIN POWERS
    Certification Date: April 4, 2019
    Label: HOLLYWOOD RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    CARDI B
    Title: INVASION OF PRIVACY
    Certification Date: April 3, 2019
    Label: ATLANTIC RECORDS / KSR
    Format: ALBUM
    3xP

    ARIANA GRANDE
    Title: SWEETENER
    Certification Date: April 3, 2019
    Label: REPUBLIC RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold, 1xP

    QUEEN
    Title: BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY
    Certification Date: March 27, 2019
    Label: HOLLYWOOD RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    21 SAVAGE
    Title: I AM > I WAS
    Certification Date: March 27, 2019
    Label: SLAUGHTER GANG, LLC / EPIC RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    KANE BROWN
    Title: EXPERIMENT
    Certification Date: March 18, 2019
    Label: RCA NASHVILLE
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    ARIANA GRANDE
    Title: THANK U, NEXT
    Certification Date: March 15, 2019
    Label: REPUBLIC RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold, 1xP

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    by Fri April 12th, 2019, 18:32

    RIAA.com:

    PLIES
    Title: THE REAL TESTAMENT
    Certification Date: April 8, 2019
    Label: SLIP N SLIDE / ATLANTIC
    Format: ALBUM
    1xP

    CHRISTINA PERRI
    Title: HEAD OR HEART
    Certification Date: April 8, 2019
    Label: ATLANTIC RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

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    by Wed April 17th, 2019, 16:33

    Quote Originally Posted by iHypeMusic View Post
    This is simply a conspiracy theory with no evidence but I think for Eagles their label actually snuck in global sales, and thus the 'newfound' sales of 7 million is just global sales tbh.

    https://chartmasters.org/2017/12/csp...y-analysis/24/

    ChartMasters carefully estimated its sales outside US as 7 million.



    The reason I think this is because labels passed off global numbers as US numbers to RIAA in the past before actually. In 2013 when they first introduced streaming to single certs it was clear the labels somehow passed off global streams as US streams.

    Justin Bieber's Baby was certified 12x Platinum, when it only sold 3.9 million at the time. Since the ratio then was 100 streams = 1 sale, that means it was certified for over 800 million streams.

    It is simply impossible the song had 800 million streams in US by May 2013. Spotify was new and it didn't even have 100 million there, and Apple Music did not exist. Any other streaming services were miniscule in popularity.

    On YouTube it had 857 million global views at the time.


    Meaning they counted those 857 million global views for RIAA.

    The Bad Romance 11x Platinum certification (by May 2015) is also fishy for the same reason since it sold 5.4 million by August of 2013 and it was certified 10x Platinum in May of 2013.

    How in earth Bad Romance & Uptown Funk have the same certification when UF sold over 7 million and it has way more streams?

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    by Sun April 21st, 2019, 09:00

    so Beyonce's Homecoming(live) is over 100m but onyl in digital(so far), is this counted for multi disc(2cd) certification?

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    by Sun April 21st, 2019, 15:08

    it depends on what her record label files it as for certification some albums that are eligible to be certified as double disc sets are counted as one for certification Carrie Underwood's Greatest Hits decade #1 for example had it been correctly counted as 2 it would be 9 x platinum as it's shipped 4.5 million units and a double disc over 100 mins long each disc is counted for certification purposes so 250,000 is Gold 500,000 platinum 5 million Diamond etc for example Garth Brook's double live album has sold around 11 million copies so should be certified 22 x platinum
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    by Sun April 21st, 2019, 19:58

    Quote Originally Posted by marcsgirl85 View Post
    it depends on what her record label files it as for certification some albums that are eligible to be certified as double disc sets are counted as one for certification Carrie Underwood's Greatest Hits decade #1 for example had it been correctly counted as 2 it would be 9 x platinum as it's shipped 4.5 million units and a double disc over 100 mins long each disc is counted for certification purposes so 250,000 is Gold 500,000 platinum 5 million Diamond etc for example Garth Brook's double live album has sold around 11 million copies so should be certified 22 x platinum
    Eligibility for a 2CD to be counted as a double cert unit starts at 100 min per set, a 2CD/LP set with under 100min play time is not eligible, Carrie's set missed the limit by 2 seconds Garth's set clocked in at 100.08 min so it's eligible for a double cert

    If the album is a 2 LP set or more from the 70s or older, even if it's under 100min play time, it can also be eligible for a double cert.

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    by Sun April 21st, 2019, 20:00

    Quote Originally Posted by Shayonce View Post
    so Beyonce's Homecoming(live) is over 100m but onyl in digital(so far), is this counted for multi disc(2cd) certification?
    Correct, it's over 100 min so it's eligible

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    by Wed May 8th, 2019, 15:42

    RIAA.com:

    ERIC CHURCH
    Title: THE OUTSIDERS
    Certification Date: April 29, 2019
    Label: EMI RECORDS NASHVILLE
    Format: ALBUM
    2xP

    ERIC CHURCH
    Title: SINNERS LIKE ME
    Certification Date: April 29, 2019
    Label: CAPITOL RECORDS NASHVILLE
    Format: ALBUM
    1xP

    MAC MILLER
    Title: WATCHING MOVIES WITH THE SOUND OFF
    Certification Date: April 26, 2019
    Label: ROSTRUM
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    MAC MILLER
    Title: SWIMMING
    Certification Date: April 23, 2019
    Label: WARNER BROS RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

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    by Mon May 20th, 2019, 21:08

    RIAA.com:

    GOO GOO DOLLS
    Title: LET LOVE IN
    Certification Date: May 10, 2019
    Label: WARNER BROS. RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    PANIC! AT THE DISCO
    Title: PRAY FOR THE WICKED
    Certification Date: May 10, 2019
    Label: FUELED BY RAMEN
    Format: ALBUM
    Platinum

    BEYONCE
    Title: LEMONADE
    Certification Date: May 8, 2019
    Label: COLUMBIA
    Format: ALBUM
    2xP

    TEE GRIZZLEY
    Title: MY MOMENT
    Certification Date: May 8, 2019
    Label: 300 ENTERTAINMENT
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

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    by Fri June 14th, 2019, 01:47

    RIAA.com:

    https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?...search_section

    BEYONCE
    Title: LEMONADE
    Certification Date: June 12, 2019
    Label: COLUMBIA
    Format: ALBUM
    3xP

    F.L.Y. (FAST LIFE YUNGSTAZ)
    Title: SWAG SURFIN'
    Certification Date: June 10, 2019
    Label: DEF JAM
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    TYGA
    Title: LEGENDARY
    Certification Date: June 7, 2019
    Label: LAST KINGS MUSIC / EMPIRE
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    MEEK MILL
    Title: CHAMPIONSHIPS
    Certification Date: June 5, 2019
    Label: MMG / ATLANTIC RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Platinum

    ASHER ROTH
    Title: ASLEEP IN THE BREAD AISLE
    Certification Date: June 3, 2019
    Label: MOTOWN RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    JOSH TURNER
    Title: ICON
    Certification Date: June 3, 2019
    Label: MCA NASHVILLE
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    LAUREN DAIGLE
    Title: LOOK UP CHILD
    Certification Date: May 29, 2019
    Label: CENTRICITY MUSIC
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    HARRY STYLES
    Title: HARRY STYLES
    Certification Date: May 23, 2019
    Label: COLUMBIA
    Format: ALBUM
    Platinum

    LIL DICKY
    Title: PROFESSIONAL RAPPER
    Certification Date: May 23, 2019
    Label: COMMISSION MUSIC
    Format: ALBUM
    Platinum

    J. COLE
    Title: 2014 FOREST HILLS DRIVE
    Certification Date: May 23, 2019
    Label: ROC NATION / COLUMBIA
    Format: ALBUM
    3xP

    ZAYN
    Title: MIND OF MINE
    Certification Date: May 20, 2019
    Label: RCA
    Format: ALBUM
    Platinum

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    by Mon June 17th, 2019, 19:02

    What?

    RIAA.com:

    DJ KHALED
    Title: FATHER OF ASAHD
    Certification Date: June 17, 2019
    Label: EPIC
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

  15. #4390

    by Tue June 18th, 2019, 02:57

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigham View Post
    What?

    RIAA.com:

    DJ KHALED
    Title: FATHER OF ASAHD
    Certification Date: June 17, 2019
    Label: EPIC
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold
    Isn't that because the album has big singles that were released last year - 1 platinum and 1 gold, that's 150k units on top of the ~250k he will have after 4 weeks out.? If I'm not getting this wrong of course

    In the previous update Tyga immediately went gold - that album features the single 'Taste', which was released in May of last year, but went 4x platinum = it gets tallied up for a huge boost. I guess when Lil Nas X drops his EP soon, we will see an even more impressive example of this?

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    by Tue June 18th, 2019, 12:59

    albums have been certified gold upon release since the mid 1970's it's nothing new similar for single platinum for example the Eagles Their Greatest Hits 1971-1975 was certified plat about 3 weeks after it's release of course multi platinum was launched in 1984 and diamond in March 1999 which their Greatest Hits was double diamond at that point having sold in excess of 25 million copies by January 1999 at that point it and Thriller were tied for number of certifications and the title of top certified album has flip flopped between the two several times over the years also other albums in RIAA's best selling need updating in certifications Such as Whitney Houston's 1987 album Whitney Mariah Carey's 1990 self titled debut Garth Brooks's 1992 album The Chase which would make his 8th Diamond album extending his lead Guns & Roses Appetite For Destruction needs an update probably enough to join the 20 million club becoming the 13th album to do so in the US and some others aren't far behind such as Boston's self titled 1976 debut which should be at minimum 18 x platinum Metallica's self titled 1991 album should at bare minimum be 17 x platinum some Journey albums such as Greatest Hits and 1981's escape need updates Escape's last cert for example was Nov 14th 1994 at 9 x platinum and Greatest Hits last cert was April 22nd 2008
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    by Mon June 24th, 2019, 17:19

    RIAA.com:

    VARIOUS ARTISTS
    Title: THE GREATEST SHOWMAN
    Certification Date: June 20, 2019
    Label: ATLANTIC RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    3xP

    OLD CROW MEDICINE SHOW
    Title: O.C.M.S.
    Certification Date: June 20, 2019
    Label: NETTWERK
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    JUICE WRLD
    Title: DEATH RACE FOR LOVE
    Certification Date: June 20, 2019
    Label: GRADE A / INTERSCOPE
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    TRIPPIE REDD
    Title: A LOVE LETTER TO YOU
    Certification Date: June 20, 2019
    Label: TENTHOUSAND PROJECTS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    TRIPPIE REDD
    Title: LIFE'S A TRIP
    Certification Date: June 20, 2019
    Label: TENTHOUSAND PROJECTS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    WIZ KHALIFA
    Title: ROLLING PAPERS 2
    Certification Date: June 14, 2019
    Label: ATLANTIC RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    EMPIRE OF THE SUN
    Title: WALKING ON A DREAM
    Certification Date: June 13, 2019
    Label: ASTRALWERKS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

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    by Wed June 26th, 2019, 16:58

    RIAA.com:

    LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER
    Title: A STAR IS BORN SOUNDTRACK
    Certification Date: June 25, 2019
    Label: INTERSCOPE
    Format: ALBUM
    2xP

    OLD CROW MEDICINE SHOW
    Title: O.C.M.S.
    Certification Date: June 20, 2019
    Label: NETTWERK
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

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    by Fri June 28th, 2019, 18:35

    RIAA.com:

    LUKAS GRAHAM
    Title: LUKAS GRAHAM
    Certification Date: June 28, 2019
    Label: WARNER RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    1xP

    KACEY MUSGRAVES
    Title: GOLDEN HOUR
    Certification Date: June 28, 2019
    Label: MCA NASHVILLE
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    DUA LIPA
    Title: DUA LIPA
    Certification Date: June 28, 2019
    Label: WARNER RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    1xP

    A BOOGIE WIT DA HOODIE
    Title: HOODIE SZN
    Certification Date: June 26, 2019
    Label: HIGH BRIDGE / ATLANTIC RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    1xP

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    by Mon July 1st, 2019, 18:15

    RIAA.com:

    JOHN MAYER
    Title: THE SEARCH FOR EVERYTHING
    Certification Date: June 28, 2019
    Label: COLUMBIA
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

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    by Sun July 14th, 2019, 20:05

    Does anyone know how many weeks in the Top 10 Their Greatest Hits (71-75) spent? Is there a chart trajectory available? Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimcastor View Post
    SoundScan shows Eagles Greatest Hits sold about 5.6 million between 1991 and 2013 July
    but during the same pediod its RIAA certifications went up by 17 million.
    How is that possible?
    Thriller sold about 6.2 million and its certifications went up by 8 million which is realistic
    in 19 years he had 1.7 million units from sales that SoundScand doesn't track.
    With the Eagles there is a 11.4 million difference


    87 ( 89 ) JACKSON*MICHAEL THRILLER 6,266,491 ( 89,804 )
    120 ( 122 ) EAGLES GREATEST HITS '71-75 5,598,732 ( 72,842 )

    viewtopic.php?p=5541480#p5541480

    Eagles Gh's history of RIAA certifications are suspect. It's like someone picked
    that album sometimes in the 90s specifically to make it "overtake" Thriller
    It's odd that nobody in the media questions how they found 9 million units since 2006
    when that albums was missing in action on the year end catalog charts except in
    2016 when Glenn Frey died.

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    by Sun July 14th, 2019, 21:30

    Hey, you can see their chart trajectory here:

    https://www.ukmix.org/showthread.php...399#post258399

    Hanboo’s Chart Histories is an excellent source for that. Love coming here just to read through it.

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    by Wed July 17th, 2019, 18:15

    https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?...search_section

    MAREN MORRIS
    Title: HERO
    Certification Date: July 17, 2019
    Label: COLUMBIA NASHVILLE
    Format: ALBUM
    1xP

    DABABY
    Title: BABY ON BABY
    Certification Date: July 16, 2019
    Label: SCMG/INTERSCOPE
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    TWISTA
    Title: ADRENALINE RUSH
    Certification Date: July 15, 2019
    Label: ATLANTIC
    Format: ALBUM
    1xP

    SOUNDTRACK
    Title: BEAUTY AND THE BEAST
    Certification Date: July 15, 2019
    Label: WALT DISNEY RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    KEVIN GATES
    Title: LUCA BRASI 3
    Certification Date: July 9, 2019
    Label: BREAD WINNERS ASSOCIATION / ATLANTIC RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

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    by Wed July 31st, 2019, 15:39

    RIAA.com:

    YBN NAHMIR, YBN CORDAE & YBN ALMIGHTY JAY
    Title: YBN: THE MIXTAPE
    Certification Date: July 31, 2019
    Label: ART@WAR / ATLANTIC RECORDS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    PLAYBOI CARTI
    Title: DIE LIT
    Certification Date: July 31, 2019
    Label: INTERSCOPE
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    DANIEL CAESAR
    Title: FREUDIAN
    Certification Date: July 31, 2019
    Label: GOLDEN CHILD RECORDINGS
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

    CHRIS STAPLETON
    Title: TRAVELLER
    Certification Date: July 24, 2019
    Label: MERCURY NASHVILLE
    Format: ALBUM
    4xP

    KEITH URBAN
    Title: GRAFFITI U
    Certification Date: July 24, 2019
    Label: CAPITOL RECORDS NASHVILLE
    Format: ALBUM
    Gold

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    by Wed August 7th, 2019, 23:22

    NIALL HORAN
    Title: FLICKER
    Certification Date: August 6, 2019
    Label: CAPITOL
    Format: ALBUM
    1xP
    niall james horan

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