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    by Sat September 29th, 2007, 13:40

    I posted that paragraph about Oasis' 1995 albums sales from the 13th January 1996 issue of Music Week - the 1995 end of year sales report. & i repeat, it quite clearly isn't talking about shipments.

    Quote Originally Posted by MJDangerous
    Music Week has NEVER count club sales into their totals. They have NEVER count them in their YEC as well.
    JimmyPages59 figure for Revolver in 2000, including Music Club sales (of 6k), is exactly the same as the one Music Week give in their 2000 end of year sales report (44k).

    Quote Originally Posted by MJDangerous
    Figures from 95 and 96 were all about shipment, not about hard sales.
    This would mean Defintely Maybe (MW total to date ~2.4m, Nov '06 OCC total 1,740,386) only sold about 100k in both '95 & '96 when it was the 17th & 21st EOY best seller. That's just impossible!

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    by Sat September 29th, 2007, 14:05

    its true morning glory has been on the same amount for fackin years,summat has to be wrong..and also today mojo magazine which is usually damn accurate states that the most successful british band of the last 20 years with 60 MILLION ALBUM SALES.they are good researchers aswell.im gonna go with this one as it does sound about right,i think alot of people have morning glory and be here now sales wrong.people say mg only did 100 000 in japan,load bollox id say there massive there

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    by Sat September 29th, 2007, 14:35

    Quote Originally Posted by vespa
    its true morning glory has been on the same amount for fackin years,summat has to be wrong..and also today mojo magazine which is usually damn accurate states that the most successful british band of the last 20 years with 60 MILLION ALBUM SALES.they are good researchers aswell.im gonna go with this one as it does sound about right,i think alot of people have morning glory and be here now sales wrong.people say mg only did 100 000 in japan,load bollox id say there massive there
    Only an absolute fool who knows nothing about charts or sales would seriously believe Oasis have sold 60m albums FFS They have sold less than 50. I bet Mojo meant 'records' sold, because that is the amount of records they've sold. Over 60m. And also, it was'nt long ago, their official site said they had sold 50m+ RECORDS, also at another time about a year ago, 40M + ALBUMS was claims. Do you seriously think it is possible to go from 40m+ albums to 60M + in a matter of a year or two when they've only releasd STC which has sold only about 2m WW?

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    by Sat September 29th, 2007, 23:58

    60 million it could be possible
    take a look at http://oasisnews.com.br/
    if you read an article about be here now you could read 14 million records sold worldwide (number one in 27 countries)
    sounds weird
    but it could be

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    by Sun September 30th, 2007, 11:12

    my estimation is around 44m with STC.
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    by Sun September 30th, 2007, 12:43

    60m albums is nonsense & 14m for Be Here Now is double nonsense. As Travolta says MOJO probably mean 60m records, including 10-15m singles, 'cos that is indeed about what they have sold. As for MOJO being damn accurate with sales, well back in 2005, they were saying 15m for Morning Glory.

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    by Sun September 30th, 2007, 13:14

    Oasis Definitely Maybe S 1994 6.500.000
    Oasis (What's the Story) Morning Glory? S 1995 16.500.000
    Oasis Be Here Now S 1997 7.000.000 +
    Oasis Standing on the Shoulder of Giants S 2000 3.000.000 -
    Oasis Heathen Chemistry S 2002 3.000.000 +
    Oasis Don't Believe the Truth S 2005 3.000.000 -
    Oasis The Masterplan C 1998 1.500.000
    Oasis Familiar to Millions C 2000 1.000.000 -
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    by Sun September 30th, 2007, 19:40

    Quote Originally Posted by zago
    Oasis Definitely Maybe S 1994 6.500.000
    Oasis (What's the Story) Morning Glory? S 1995 16.500.000
    Oasis Be Here Now S 1997 7.000.000 +
    Oasis Standing on the Shoulder of Giants S 2000 3.000.000 -
    Oasis Heathen Chemistry S 2002 3.000.000 +
    Oasis Don't Believe the Truth S 2005 3.000.000 -
    Oasis The Masterplan C 1998 1.500.000
    Oasis Familiar to Millions C 2000 1.000.000 -
    Morning Glory - 19m http://brits.co.uk/press/2006-10-19/

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    by Mon October 1st, 2007, 09:29

    Quote Originally Posted by oasisbobo
    Quote Originally Posted by zago
    Oasis Definitely Maybe S 1994 6.500.000
    Oasis (What's the Story) Morning Glory? S 1995 16.500.000
    Oasis Be Here Now S 1997 7.000.000 +
    Oasis Standing on the Shoulder of Giants S 2000 3.000.000 -
    Oasis Heathen Chemistry S 2002 3.000.000 +
    Oasis Don't Believe the Truth S 2005 3.000.000 -
    Oasis The Masterplan C 1998 1.500.000
    Oasis Familiar to Millions C 2000 1.000.000 -
    Morning Glory - 19m http://brits.co.uk/press/2006-10-19/
    7,6m in Europe
    4,5m in USA (don't have here the soundscan data,but was certified 4x in 1996, now should be really near 5x)
    107k+ Japan
    800k Canada
    500k oceania
    Total : 13,5m missing all south america,russia,some asia countries and yes maybe some of this data are old or undercertified or something elese,so i think we could add other 3m..to 16,5m
    but 19m is really higher than 13,5m..
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    by Mon October 1st, 2007, 09:52

    Quote Originally Posted by zago
    Oasis Definitely Maybe S 1994 6.500.000
    Oasis (What's the Story) Morning Glory? S 1995 16.500.000
    Oasis Be Here Now S 1997 7.000.000 +
    Oasis Standing on the Shoulder of Giants S 2000 3.000.000 -
    Oasis Heathen Chemistry S 2002 3.000.000 +
    Oasis Don't Believe the Truth S 2005 3.000.000 -
    Oasis The Masterplan C 1998 1.500.000
    Oasis Familiar to Millions C 2000 1.000.000 -
    I reckon this is broadly right - with the exception of Be Here Now which may be a bit high.

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    by Mon October 1st, 2007, 13:14

    well id say its about right ,theyve sold in the region of around 15 million singles ,so that means for the people that say theyve sold 50 million records that theyve only sold 35 million albums?no chance that means 6 of there albums have sold have sold absolute fuck all.the first 3 account for 35 mill alone,then youve got from the masterplan onwards for sales,

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    by Mon October 1st, 2007, 17:51

    19mil might be a bit high i thaught that but it must be 18mil for sure

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    by Mon October 1st, 2007, 20:35

    Quote Originally Posted by edge3
    I posted that paragraph about Oasis' 1995 albums sales from the 13th January 1996 issue of Music Week - the 1995 end of year sales report. & i repeat, it quite clearly isn't talking about shipments.

    Quote Originally Posted by MJDangerous
    Music Week has NEVER count club sales into their totals. They have NEVER count them in their YEC as well.
    JimmyPages59 figure for Revolver in 2000, including Music Club sales (of 6k), is exactly the same as the one Music Week give in their 2000 end of year sales report (44k).

    Quote Originally Posted by MJDangerous
    Figures from 95 and 96 were all about shipment, not about hard sales.
    This would mean Defintely Maybe (MW total to date ~2.4m, Nov '06 OCC total 1,740,386) only sold about 100k in both '95 & '96 when it was the 17th & 21st EOY best seller. That's just impossible!
    You are wrong here edge, you are mixing several different sources.

    YEC from mid90's are about shipment. Music Week alltime chart are about hard shop sales. Music Week weekly figures are about hard shop sales as well.

    Just check sales on YEC of Jagged Little Pill or Spice Girls, figures which are higher for 2 years than their total sales up to the updated total of last November... The reason is again because YEC of 95/96 are based on shipment. Morning Glory have definitely sold well under 1.8m per year in 95/96 on shops - it has sold this only adding club sales and shipment, the same goes for DM.
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    by Tue October 2nd, 2007, 11:50

    MW did not use shipments in their 95/96 YEC sales analysis & they never have. The reason why Jagged Little Pill, Spice, Carry On Up The Charts, Def Maybe, Morning Glory, had significant Music Club sales taken off their MW YEC totals, in the Nov '06 all-time chart, is because Music Club sales were at their peak in the mid-90's & these, big selling mid-90's albums, were widely available through the Music Clubs.

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    by Tue October 2nd, 2007, 13:40

    MW sales are NOT shipments and do NOT incl music club sales, you have to remember that these sales although they are actual sales they are still ESTIMATIONS by MW/OCC and are subject to change. Most sales prior to 1997 have since been revised by MW/OCC.

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    by Tue October 2nd, 2007, 16:07

    just look at the figures really an work it out

    we know that

    def maybe - 7 million

    morning glory has sold between 18 - 23 million(this figure stated by noel)

    be here now - 9 million

    at the higest sales will be 39 lowest 35 mill .id say its around 36 for these albums alone.after that youve 6 albums worth of sales to add up ,plus catalogue sales.

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    by Tue October 2nd, 2007, 17:21

    Quote Originally Posted by RollingBob
    MW did not use shipments in their 95/96 YEC sales analysis & they never have. The reason why Jagged Little Pill, Spice, Carry On Up The Charts, Def Maybe, Morning Glory, had significant Music Club sales taken off their MW YEC totals, in the Nov '06 all-time chart, is because Music Club sales were at their peak in the mid-90's & these, big selling mid-90's albums, were widely available through the Music Clubs.
    Again I will repeat it... Sales from YEC of 95/96 are NOT about sales, they are NOT from Music Week, Music Week do NOT include figures from MC in their totals.
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    by Thu October 4th, 2007, 16:22

    They are from Music Week! Again from the 13th January 1996 issue :

    "...Oasis had the consolation of being the year's biggest selling albums act, selling 2.36m albums - 1.84m of Morning Glory? and 520,000 of their debut album Definitely Maybe to add to the 400,000 it sold in 1994..."

    That's straight from Alan Jones' 1995 YEC sales analysis, same as he's been doing each year since at least the early 90's. I repeat, it is not based on shipments.

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    by Thu October 4th, 2007, 17:00

    Quote Originally Posted by fiesta
    you have to remember that these sales although they are actual sales they are still ESTIMATIONS by MW/OCC and are subject to change. Most sales prior to 1997 have since been revised by MW/OCC.
    Yeah i know, but i cannot believe they messed up their chart so badly just 10-13 years ago, for like 3 years in a row. Def Maybe would've had to have had like around 400k missing from these years for this to have been the case...

    '94 : 21st with 400k (3xP)
    '95 : 17th with 570k
    '96 : 21st with 470k (5xP)

    As the 21st best seller in '94 it just seems impossible it only sold like ~270k, likewise ~430k as the 17th best seller in '95 & ~340k as the 21st best seller in '96.

    Most of the big selling albums from the '80's - eg Tracy Chapman's self-titled debut, U2's 'Joshua Tree', Phill Collins' 'But Seriously' & Kylie Minogues' 'Kylie' etc - didn't seem to have any sales taken off it's MW year end totals in the Nov '06 all-time chart. I believe this is because music Club sales didn't exist back then. Indeed i heard Jimmypages59 say they didn't start until '93. His figures show they were at their peak from '93-'99 & becoming minimal by the '00's onwards.

    Finally Jimmypages59 figures show, like MW, total sales to date of Morning Glory of ~4.7m incl. Music club sales of ~400k. It's Nov '06 OCC all-time total was 4.315m.

    Likewise Def Maybe with over 2m & Music club sales of ~400k. It's Nov '06 OCC all-time total was 1.740m.

    Surely they subtracted the Music club sales from the MW/Hitmusic EOY totals for the Nov '06 OCC all-time chart.

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    by Thu October 4th, 2007, 17:12

    All their UK totals to date (except singles) are given in this weeks Music Week (issue dated 6th Oct '07). The figures are again from the OCC & they follow on from the totals they gave out back on 5th August 2006. Why they're still giving under 3.9m for Morning Glory, after giving 4.315m in the November '06 all-time chart, i just don't know. Although i would think it's something to do with excluding some other format again (as well as Music Club sales). Anyway here are the totals they give :

    '94 : Def Maybe - 1.78m *(1.733m)
    '95 : Morning Glory - 3.87m *(3.828m)
    '97 : Be Here Now - 1.81m *(1.798m)
    '98 : The Masterplan - 755k
    '00 : Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants - 685k *(677k)
    '00 : Familiar To Millions - 320k
    '02 : Heathen Chemsitry - 1.05m *(1.037m)
    '05 : Don't Bleieve The Truth - 943k *(914k)
    '06 : Stop The Clocks - 1.1m

    *Aug 5th '06 totals

    Cumulative UK album sales to date : 12.31m (minus ~1.5m in Music club sales & maybe something else for Morning Glory, is my belief)

    & Video/DVD's :

    '95 : Live By The Sea - 184k
    '96 : There & Then - 365k
    '00 : Familiar To Millions - 110k
    '04 : Def Maybe : Anniversary Edition - 133k

    Cumulative UK Video/DVD sales to date : 792k

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    by Fri October 5th, 2007, 13:29

    i dont understand these sales:
    be here now sold, as far as i know, far more than 2 million, same with def.maybe..didnt it dold 2.7 million?
    and dont blieve the truth, last sales which i read were der. more than 1 million........
    why are there so many different sales in circulation?

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    by Fri October 5th, 2007, 19:15

    '94 : Def Maybe - 1.78m (seems a little to low)
    '95 : Morning Glory - 3.87m (to low)
    '97 : Be Here Now - 1.81m (seems fine)
    '98 : The Masterplan - 755k (great sales)
    '00 : Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants - 685k (seems a little to low)
    '00 : Familiar To Millions - 320k (seems fine)
    '02 : Heathen Chemsitry - 1.05m (seems fine)
    '05 : Don't Bleieve The Truth - 943k (seems fine)
    '06 : Stop The Clocks - 1.1m (great sales)

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    by Fri October 5th, 2007, 19:44

    Quote Originally Posted by RollingBob
    All their UK totals to date (except singles) are given in this weeks Music Week (issue dated 6th Oct '07). The figures as always are from the OCC & they follow on from the totals they gave out back on 5th August 2006. Why they're still giving under 3.9m for Morning Glory, after giving 4.315m in the November '06 all-time chart, i have no idea. But anyway here goes :

    '94 : Def Maybe - 1.78m *(1.733m)
    '95 : Morning Glory - 3.87m *(3.828m)
    '97 : Be Here Now - 1.81m *(1.798m)
    '98 : The Masterplan - 755k
    '00 : Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants - 685k *(677k)
    '00 : Familiar To Millions - 320k
    '02 : Heathen Chemsitry - 1.05m *(1.037m)
    '05 : Don't Bleieve The Truth - 943k *(914k)
    '06 : Stop The Clocks - 1.1m

    *Aug 5th '06 totals

    Cumulative UK album sales to date : 12.31m (minus ~1.5m in Music club sales & maybe something else for Morning Glory, is my belief)

    & Video/DVD's :

    '95 : Live By The Sea - 184k
    '96 : There & Then - 365k
    '00 : Familiar To Millions - 110k
    '04 : Def Maybe : Anniversary Edition - 133k

    Cumulative UK Video/DVD sales to date : 792k
    really interesting to read this, specially the DVD figures... thanks!

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    by Fri April 11th, 2008, 13:38

    stop the clocks and dbtt went gold in canada

    cert. date artist name title label name cdn cont. cert. type award units link
    1995-12-21 OASIS "(WHAT'S THE STORY) MORNING GLORY" Epic
    CD Gold 50,000
    1996-02-29 OASIS "(WHAT'S THE STORY) MORNING GLORY" Epic
    CD Platinum 100,000
    1996-02-29 OASIS "(WHAT'S THE STORY) MORNING GLORY" Epic
    CD 2 X Platinum 200,000
    1996-04-04 OASIS "(WHAT'S THE STORY) MORNING GLORY" Epic
    CD 3 X Platinum 300,000
    1996-06-12 OASIS "DEFINITELY MAYBE" Epic
    CD Gold 50,000
    1996-06-12 OASIS "(WHAT'S THE STORY) MORNING GLORY" Epic
    CD 4 X Platinum 400,000
    1996-09-27 OASIS "(WHAT'S THE STORY) MORNING GLORY" Epic
    CD 5 X Platinum 500,000
    1996-09-27 OASIS "(WHAT'S THE STORY) MORNING GLORY" Epic
    CD 6 X Platinum 600,000
    1997-01-09 OASIS "(WHAT'S THE STORY) MORNING GLORY" Epic
    CD 7 X Platinum 700,000
    1997-05-23 OASIS "(WHAT'S THE STORY) MORNING GLORY" Epic
    CD 8 X Platinum 800,000
    1997-05-29 OASIS "DEFINITELY MAYBE" Epic
    CD Platinum 100,000
    1997-08-29 OASIS "BE HERE NOW" Epic
    CD Gold 50,000
    1997-08-29 OASIS "BE HERE NOW" Epic
    CD Platinum 100,000
    1997-08-29 OASIS "BE HERE NOW" Epic
    CD 2 X Platinum 200,000
    1998-11-30 OASIS "THE MASTERPLAN" Epic
    CD Gold 50,000
    2002-08-13 OASIS "HEATHEN CHEMISTRY" COLUMBIA
    CD Gold 50,000 view
    2005-06-07 OASIS "DON'T BELIEVE THE TRUTH" EPIC
    CD Gold 50,000 view
    28 AUGUST 2009
    THE DAY MUSIC DIED
    OASIS 1994 - 2009
    LIVE FOREVER

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