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    by Wed June 20th, 2007, 15:34

    This superb BBC2 Drama about Ancient Rome returns to our screens tonight at 9.00PM.

    A strong cast,well scripted and superb setting,if you like acting,drama or history it could tickle your fancy.

    Any more fans of ROME??

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    by Wed June 20th, 2007, 15:37

    Never quite got into the first series...might try again.

    Someone I used to know...can't even remember who it was now now...was very taken by the first series. And kept going on and on about it one night in the pub.

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    by Thu June 21st, 2007, 03:07

    I LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUV DAT SHOW....

    On da last episode Atia says:

    "I know what you're thinking, that one day you will destroy me, just remember far better women than you had said that... go look for them now"

    SUPERB

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    by Sun July 1st, 2007, 14:16

    I love this show. I saw all the episodes so far. Great characters and storylines. Historically it is quite accurate, although of course a bit of artistic licence for personal relationships.

    Apparently there were soldiers called Pullo and vorenus, Julius Ceaser mention them in one of his writings. Nothing though is really known about them.

    Some people have complained about all the sex, violence and bad language...well i suppose real romans were very gentlemanly when they conquered countries 'please kind people may we run your country'!

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    by Sun July 1st, 2007, 14:26

    Cheers johnyboy yes imagine invading other countries and expanding your a empire,and not a swear word in sight.

    Yes Rome is a CLASS programme,the BBC have done the business here,big time!

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    by Mon July 2nd, 2007, 16:35

    HBO. It's not television. It's porn...with Emmies...

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    by Tue July 3rd, 2007, 12:31

    Pullo and Vorenus
    Associated to Place: articles -- by * Tanaquil Sergius (85 Articles), Historical Article
    by Tanaquil Sergius

    PVLLO ET VORENVS

    by C.Iulius Caesar

    translated by Tanaquil Sergius






    Introduction

    In the HBO series "Rome", in the military around Caesar, we encounter two centuriones, Pullo and Vorenus, who play a lower plebeian role in this series, next to leading Romans, like Caesar, Pompeius and others. These two men are followed along the row of episodes in the series and viewers have already asked (e.g. on the boards discussing HBO-Rome in AncientWorlds) who these two men are and whether they have a historical background. Yes, they do, but not to the extent presented in the series. Pullo and Vorenus occur only once in Caesar's "Commentarii de Bello Gallico" as two centuriones of the 11th legion, whose story Caesar tells in book V, caput 44, to bring some variation into the usual story line of strategies and war actions, as he like to do now and then, telling a story about some brave men in his army, mostly centuriones, or among the enemy. To get an insight into the "real" Pullo and Vorenus, i.e. the original men in Caesar's work, I have quoted and translated the passage which tells their story:



    Caesar, Bell. Gall. V, 44:

    Erant in ea (1) legione fortissimi viri centuriones qui iam primis ordinibus adpropinquarent, Titus Pullo et Lucius Vorenus. Hi perpetuas inter se controversias habebant, uter alteri anteferretur, omnibusque annis de loco summis simultatibus contendebant. Ex his Pullo, cum acerrime ad munitionibus pugnaretur, 'quid dubitas' inquit, 'Vorene?' Aut quem locum probandae virtutis tuae expectas? Hic dies de nostris controversiis iudicabit.' Haec cum dixisset, procedit extra munitiones, quaeque hostium pars confertissima est visa, inrumpit. Ne Vorenus quidem sese tum vallo continet, sed omnium veritus existimationem subsequitur. Mediocri spatio relicto Pullo pilum in hostes immittit atque unum ex multitudine procurrentem traicit. Quo percusso exanimatoque hunc scutis protegunt hostes, in illum universi tela coniciunt neque dant progrediendi facultatem. Transfigitur scutum Pulloni et verutum in balteo defigitur. Avertit hic casus vaginam et gladium educere conanti dextram moratur manum, impeditumque hostes circumsistunt. Succurrit inimicus illi Vorenus et laboranti subvenit. Ad hunc se confestim a Pullone omnis multitudo convertit; illum veruto transfixum arbitrantur. Vorenus gladio rem comminus gerit atque uno interfecto reliquos paulum propellit; dum cupidius instat, in locum inferiorem deiectus concidit. Huic rursus circumvento subsidium fert Pullo, atque ambo incolumes compluribus interfectis summa cum laude intra munitiones se recipiunt. Sic fortuna in contentione et certamine utrumque versavit, ut alter alteri inimicus auxilio salutique esset neque diiudicari posset, uter utri virtute anteferendus videretur.

    (1) ea legione: i.e. undecima legione (B.A. van Groningen: tertia legione; commentarium in facsimile scriptum)







    Translation:

    In that [i.e. the eleventh] legion were [two] very brave men, centuriones, who were very nearly to be promoted to the highest level of their rank, Titus Pullo and Lucius Vorenus. These two men had continuous controversies among eachother, who would be promoted before the other, and all these years they were keeping up their rivalry about the matter with the utmost enmity. So, when the fight at the entrenchments grew extremely heavy, Pullo said: 'What are you waiting for, Vorenus? For which possibility to prove your bravery are you waiting? This day will bring the judgement on our controversies.'

    After having said this, he marched out of the entrenchments and rushed into the part of the enemy lines that seemed to be the most dense. Vorenus didn't stay behind the wall either, but followed him, fearing the contempt of all. When only little space between them was left, Pullo hurled his spear to the enemies and impaled one of them who was running ahead of the masses. When this man was impaled and killed, the enemies covered him with their shields; they all hurled their projectiles to Pullo and made it impossible for him to proceed any further. Pullo's shield was pierced and the spear stuck in his belt. This incident pushed away his sheath and kept his right hand from drawing his sword, when he tried to do that, and the enemies stood around him, hindered as he was. Vorenus came to the rescue of his adversary and stood by him in his emergency. The whole mass of enemies turned immediately from Pullo towards him; they thought that he [Pullo] had been killed by the spear. Vorenus fought with his sword in a man to man fight and after killing one the made the others back off a bit; while he was all too eager to go after them, he stumbled into a somewhat lower bit of ground and fell down. Now that he again was surrounded [by enenmies] Pullo came to help him, and after having killed several enemies they both made it back into the entrenchments, unhurt and as the heroes of the day. Thus fortune dealt with each one of them in their controversy and competition, that each adversary would help and save the other and that it could not be decided, which one of them seemed to outdo the other in bravery.

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    by Tue July 3rd, 2007, 12:31

    Quote Originally Posted by irishguy28
    HBO. It's not television. It's porn...with Emmies...
    Really? BTW, you look more than 28!!!!

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    by Wed July 4th, 2007, 22:08

    Its the Big Battle next week,i cannot wait!!

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    by Mon July 16th, 2007, 14:17

    Last episode was brilliant,there are now just 2 left of this classy BBC2 drama.

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    by Mon July 23rd, 2007, 13:09

    Great last episode,a great TV Prog that will be sadly missed!

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