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    by » Sat October 25th, 2008, 11:53

    thank you i think that Plies, Nas, Flo Rida, Snoop Dogg and Step Up 2 will be replaced by Jay-Z, 50 Cent, Dr.Dre, Eminem, Ludacris, Kanye West, Fabolous, Soulja Boy and others...
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    by » Sat October 25th, 2008, 18:11

    Only Eminem was a best selling rap album artist, right?

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    by » Sat October 25th, 2008, 23:26

    Quote Originally Posted by Lehmann
    thank you i think that Plies, Nas, Flo Rida, Snoop Dogg and Step Up 2 will be replaced by Jay-Z, 50 Cent, Dr.Dre, Eminem, Ludacris, Kanye West, Fabolous, Soulja Boy and others...
    yeah I forgot about Ludacris, and honestly I don't think Soulja Boy or Fabolous will even reach gold, but we'll see.

    As for Dre, since Eminem's album will be released before it (according to Eminem himself), and since Eminem's album is supposed to be released dec. 23 (as of now), I really doubt we'll see it before year's end...

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    by » Sun October 26th, 2008, 00:36

    by the way, I don't think I'll include Kanye in the list since apparently he's not a rapper anymore

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    by » Sun October 26th, 2008, 08:33

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderpig
    by the way, I don't think I'll include Kanye in the list since apparently he's not a rapper anymore
    he promised that his next album (which coming in summer 2009) will be rap album
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    by » Sun October 26th, 2008, 08:49

    Well done, Spider, I don´t know much that genre, but this is very well compiled.

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    by » Sun October 26th, 2008, 20:50

    Nice job man! Thank you so much!
    "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is easily the best mainstream hip-hop album since 2001's The Blueprint by Jay-Z."

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    by » Mon October 27th, 2008, 04:51

    thanks for the kind words

    here's some soundscan numbers :

    Eminem
    (as of 2007)

    "The Slim Shady LP" (1999): 5.1 million
    "The Marshall Mathers LP" (2000): 10.1 million
    "The Eminem Show" (2002): 9.7 million
    "8 Mile" (Various artists) (2002): 4.7 million
    "Encore" (2004): 5.1 million
    "Curtain Call: The Hits" (2005): 2.8 million
    "Eminem Presents: The Re-Up" (Various artists) (2006): 1 million

    2Pac
    (2004)

    "2Pacalypse Now" - 698,288
    "Strictly 4 My ****" - 1,365,580
    "Me Against the World" - 2,438,580
    "All Eyez On Me" - 5,145,423
    "Makaveli/Don Killuminati: 7 Day Theory" - 3,911,787
    "R U Still Down?" - 2,059,201
    "Greatest Hits" - 4,483,000
    "Still I Rise" - 1,617,000
    "Until the End of Time" - 2,083,000
    "Better Dayz" - 1,649,000
    "Resurrection" - 1,587,000
    "Loyal To The Game" - 1,081,000

    Snoop Dogg
    (2008)

    1993: Doggy Style 6,137,000
    1996: Tha Dogfather 1,984,000
    1998: Da Game is to be Sold 2,085,000
    1999: No Limit Top Dogg 1,518,000
    2000: The Last Meal 2,068,000
    2002: Paid Tha Cost To Be Da Boss 1,210,000
    2004: R&G: The Masterpiece 1,724,000
    2006: The Blue Carpet Treatment 903,000

    Jay Z
    (2004)

    Reasonable Doubt/1,262,692
    Vol 1 - In My Lifetime/1,291,495
    Vol 2 - Hard Knock Life/5,149,337
    Vol 3 - Life And Times Of S.Carter/2,975,345
    Dynasty - Roc La Familia /2,421,121
    Blueprint/2,352,850
    Unplugged/666,939
    Blueprint 2:Gift & The Curse/1,911,451
    Blueprint 2.1/254,773
    Black Album/2,938,218

    Nas
    (2004)

    Illmatic/1,086,226
    It Was Written/2,359,977
    I Am/2,017,036
    Nastradamus/1,178,712
    Stillmatic/1,867,128
    God's Son/1,236,757
    Lost Tapes/302,713
    Street's Disciple/464,522

    DMX
    (2005)

    It's Dark & Hell Is Hot - 4,510,643
    Flesh Of My Flesh-Blood Of My Blood - 3,300,978
    And Then There Was X - 4,852,329
    Great Depression - 1,835,475
    Grand Champ - 1,151,341

    Nelly
    (2005)

    Country Grammar - 8,189,000
    Nellyville - 6,285,000
    Suit - 2,905,103
    Sweat - 1,190,646

    Lil Wayne
    (2007)

    Tha Block Is Hot (1999) : 1,325,492
    Lights Out (2000) : 851,685
    500 Degreez (2002) : 536,000
    Tha Carter (2004) : 1,061,606
    Tha Carter II (2005) : 1,343,269
    Like Father Like Son (w\ Birdman, 2006) : 873,813

    Outkast
    (2007)

    SOUTHERNPLAYALISTICADILLACMUZI: 1,308,249
    ATLIENS: 1,848,096
    AQUEMINI: 2,211,652
    STANKONIA: 4,068,202
    BIG BOI & DRE PRESENT OUTKAST: 1,390,224
    SPEAKERBOXX-LOVE: 5,561,188

    Ice Cube
    (2004)

    "AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted" - 749,540
    "Kill At Will EP" - 704,296
    "Death Certificate" - 1,631,341
    "Predator" - 2,237,124
    "Lethal Injection" - 1,851,835
    "Bootlegs & B-Sides" - 818,409
    "War & Peace: Disc 1 (War)" - 1,043,268
    "War & Peace: Disc 2 (Peace)" - 986,424

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    by » Mon November 3rd, 2008, 19:36

    ^^^

    Where did u find these numbers?

    P.S: I don't think Jay-Z, Dr.Dre, Fabolous and Soulja Boy will release their albums by the end of the year...
    Just Kanye, Luda, Fiddy and maybe Slim Shady...
    "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is easily the best mainstream hip-hop album since 2001's The Blueprint by Jay-Z."

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    by » Tue November 4th, 2008, 18:06

    this is an interesting topic thanks for it
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    by » Wed November 5th, 2008, 00:25

    Quote Originally Posted by Willypedia
    Where did u find these numbers?
    on rap forums, and also on UKMIX actually ;) (MJDangerous posted a lot of them some years ago)

    some others :

    Ludacris
    (2006)

    Back For The First Time : 3,1 million
    Word Of Mouf : 3,6 million
    Chicken & Beer : 2,6 million
    Red Light District : 2 million
    Release Therapy : 1,3 million (2007)

    T.I.
    (2007)

    I'm Serious: 267,760 (2006)
    Trap Muzik : 1,074,312
    Urban Legend : 1,396,210
    King : 1,8 million
    T.I. vs T.I.P. : 1,294,342 (2008)

    Bone Thugs 'N Harmony
    (2008)

    Creepin On A Come Up 2,766,000
    E. 1999 Eternal 6,120,000
    The Art Of War 1,600,000
    The Collection V.1 1,250,000
    BTNHResurrection 1,515,000
    Thug World Order 440,000
    Greatest Hits 880,673
    Thug Stories 95,000
    Strength & Loyalty 465,123

    N.W.A.
    (2004)

    N.W.A & The Posse - 364,544
    Straight Outta Compton - 1,295,039
    100 Miles & Runnin EP - 314,766
    EFIL4ZAGGIN - 2,084,941

    Eazy-E
    (2004)

    Eazy Duz It - 1,174,104
    5150 Home 4 Tha Sick EP - 417,291
    It's On (Dr. Dre) 187um Killa - 1,964,461
    Str8 Off Tha Streetz of Muthaphuckin' Compton - 637,704

    Public Enemy
    (2004)

    Yo! Bum Rush the Show - 261,381
    It Takes A Nation of Millions - 621,361
    Fear of a Black Planet - 519,685
    Apocalypse '91 - 1,490,977
    Greatest Misses - 371,566
    Muse Sick-N-Hour Mess-Age - 265,120
    He Got Game - 278,161
    There's A Poison Goin' On - 41,367
    Revolverlution - 69,538

    The Notorious B.I.G.
    (2004)

    Ready to Die - 3,019,758
    Life After Death - 4,594,566
    Born Again - 1,823,987

    L.L. Cool J
    (2004)

    Radio - 235,928
    Bigger & Deffer - 669,909
    Walking With the Panther - 657,008
    Mama Said Knock You Out - 1,451,532
    14 Shots to the Dome - 618,208
    Mr. Smith - 1,873,391
    All World - 1,158,903
    Phenomenon - 756,306
    G.O.A.T. - 817,967
    10 - 969,591
    Definition - 735,553 (2005)

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    by » Wed November 5th, 2008, 13:22

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderpig
    OK, I know there's like 3 rap fans here, but I don't care
    These lists are based on RIAA certifications and some soundscan numbers, any correction is welcome
    I'm not one of those 3
    But this a great thread! Nice overview Spidey!

    I saw your your overall thread too (from 1967 onwards, I think). Are you planning more in the same style for other genres?

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    by » Wed November 5th, 2008, 18:53

    I'm 1 of those 3!

    What about Will Smith (also as The Fresh Prince)?
    "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is easily the best mainstream hip-hop album since 2001's The Blueprint by Jay-Z."

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    by » Thu November 6th, 2008, 09:48

    I'm not one of those 3.
    However I thank you for the information.

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    by » Fri November 7th, 2008, 19:35

    Quote Originally Posted by Willypedia
    What about Will Smith (also as The Fresh Prince)?
    I only have this :

    Will Smith - Big Willie Style - 7.322.000 (2 years ago I think)

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    by » Fri November 7th, 2008, 19:46

    Quote Originally Posted by Dane
    I'm not one of those 3
    But this a great thread! Nice overview Spidey!

    I saw your your overall thread too (from 1967 onwards, I think). Are you planning more in the same style for other genres?
    thanks

    I don't know if it'd be interesting for other genres, I mean it's already difficult to find 10 rap albums certified gold in 2008 so you can imagine for heavy metal or electro... on the other hand, "rock" and "pop" are too idle notions, I think it'd be a bit boring.
    Maybe country, could be interesting... but I'm not really a country fan

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    by » Fri November 7th, 2008, 20:29

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderpig
    Quote Originally Posted by Willypedia
    What about Will Smith (also as The Fresh Prince)?
    I only have this :

    Will Smith - Big Willie Style - 7.322.000 (2 years ago I think)
    But the album was certified 9 times platinum by the RIAA...
    "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is easily the best mainstream hip-hop album since 2001's The Blueprint by Jay-Z."

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    by » Fri November 7th, 2008, 20:50

    in the 90's, soundscan was far from comprehensive, just one example :

    Whitney Houston - "The Bodyguard"
    17x platinum (in 1999)
    soundscan : 11,790,000 (jan 2007)

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    by » Sat November 8th, 2008, 00:47

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderpig
    Quote Originally Posted by Dane
    I'm not one of those 3
    But this a great thread! Nice overview Spidey!

    I saw your your overall thread too (from 1967 onwards, I think). Are you planning more in the same style for other genres?
    thanks

    I don't know if it'd be interesting for other genres, I mean it's already difficult to find 10 rap albums certified gold in 2008 so you can imagine for heavy metal or electro... on the other hand, "rock" and "pop" are too idle notions, I think it'd be a bit boring.
    Maybe country, could be interesting... but I'm not really a country fan
    Obviously I think a Hard Rock/Heavy Metal version of your thread would be interesting. Including anything from Journey and Bon Jovi to Metallica and Slayer.
    Maybe if you're not interested I should make one myself, if I find the time...

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    by » Sat November 8th, 2008, 00:48

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderpig
    in the 90's, soundscan was far from comprehensive, just one example :

    Whitney Houston - "The Bodyguard"
    17x platinum (in 1999)
    soundscan : 11,790,000 (jan 2007)
    That one must have sold a bunch through music clubs.

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    by » Sat November 8th, 2008, 07:17

    Quote Originally Posted by Dane
    Obviously I think a Hard Rock/Heavy Metal version of your thread would be interesting. Including anything from Journey and Bon Jovi to Metallica and Slayer.
    Maybe if you're not interested I should make one myself, if I find the time...
    I think the difficulty would be to define clearly "hard rock/heavy metal", I mean, if Journey is a hard rock band, I guess the Red Hot Chili Peppers are also one while rap music is quite easy to define, that's what I meant in my previous post, but yeah it could be interesting to make the equivalent of this thread for the metalheads, I can help if you want ;)

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    by » Sat November 8th, 2008, 10:10

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderpig
    I think the difficulty would be to define clearly "hard rock/heavy metal", I mean, if Journey is a hard rock band, I guess the Red Hot Chili Peppers are also one
    True.

    Time is also a factor. The Who, Stones and Faces might have been considered Hard Rock in the early 70's, but would they still by todays standards?

    Who's Next is a Hard Rock classic imo.

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    by » Sat November 8th, 2008, 10:20

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderpig
    while rap music is quite easy to define
    Or is it?
    You didn't include Rage Against The Machine or Limb Bizkit. I'd call that Rap Metal. Run DMC started that you know, when they invited Steven Tyler and Joe Perry over for a nice cup of tea...
    I guess you could call Beastie Boys innovators too.

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    by » Mon November 10th, 2008, 05:30

    Quote Originally Posted by Dane
    Or is it?
    You didn't include Rage Against The Machine or Limb Bizkit. I'd call that Rap Metal. Run DMC started that you know, when they invited Steven Tyler and Joe Perry over for a nice cup of tea...
    I guess you could call Beastie Boys innovators too.
    yea rap-metal is a difficult case
    to me, they're basically metal bands with rap vocals, I mean their music has nothing to do with the usual hip-hop beats, besides the most prominent "musical" member of these bands is generally a guitarist (Tom Morello, Wes Borland), while rap/hip-hop music is created by producers (Dr. Dre, Kanye West...etc).

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