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Thread: Best selling rap albums in the US by release date, 1987-2014

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    by Mon November 10th, 2008, 06:11

    Wow, 1997 and 1999 were huge for Rap. Those must be really gangsta years!!

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    by Mon November 10th, 2008, 06:37

    Quote Originally Posted by skapunk
    Wow, 1997 and 1999 were huge for Rap. Those must be really gangsta years!!
    Will Smith isn't exactly a gangsta rapper
    but yeah, rap clearly became one of the dominant genres in the late 90's (before Eminem made it the dominant genre in the early 00's).
    I guess the tragic deaths of 2Pac and Biggie Smalls in 96-97 somehow popularized the genre even more, to me it's particularly impressive to see that 9 rap albums released in 1998 were eventually certified multi-platinum

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    by Mon November 10th, 2008, 10:44

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderpig
    Quote Originally Posted by Dane
    Or is it?
    You didn't include Rage Against The Machine or Limb Bizkit. I'd call that Rap Metal. Run DMC started that you know, when they invited Steven Tyler and Joe Perry over for a nice cup of tea...
    I guess you could call Beastie Boys innovators too.
    yea rap-metal is a difficult case
    to me, they're basically metal bands with rap vocals, I mean their music has nothing to do with the usual hip-hop beats, besides the most prominent "musical" member of these bands is generally a guitarist (Tom Morello, Wes Borland), while rap/hip-hop music is created by producers (Dr. Dre, Kanye West...etc).
    Rap-Metal is a bastard son
    But I agree with you, it's probably more Metal than Rap. Even if that kinda pains me to say, because as a huge Classic Rock/Metal fan I have very few good things to say about the genre
    I do like some RATM though. Killing In The Name Of is a great track! Limb Bizkit? Slipknot? No thanks

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    by Mon November 10th, 2008, 23:55

    Quote Originally Posted by Dane
    Rap-Metal is a bastard son
    But I agree with you, it's probably more Metal than Rap. Even if that kinda pains me to say, because as a huge Classic Rock/Metal fan I have very few good things to say about the genre
    I do like some RATM though. Killing In The Name Of is a great track! Limb Bizkit? Slipknot? No thanks
    yeah RATM is probably the only rap-rock band who deserves a bit of respect, as for nu-metal (=Slipknot) I like the Deftones personally (especially their White Pony album), also some Korn songs...

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    by Tue November 11th, 2008, 01:00

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderpig
    Quote Originally Posted by Dane
    Rap-Metal is a bastard son
    But I agree with you, it's probably more Metal than Rap. Even if that kinda pains me to say, because as a huge Classic Rock/Metal fan I have very few good things to say about the genre
    I do like some RATM though. Killing In The Name Of is a great track! Limb Bizkit? Slipknot? No thanks
    yeah RATM is probably the only rap-rock band who deserves a bit of respect, as for nu-metal (=Slipknot) I like the Deftones personally (especially their White Pony album), also some Korn songs...
    I like some Faith No More too, don't know if they're considered Rap-metal though. Not sure I like any Nu-Metal :-? I think I like one Korn song, I believe it's the one called Freak On A Leash. Also a couple of Linkin Park songs if that counts. In The End is great.

    The best Limb Bizkit song is a cover, and I much prefer the Who's original (Behind Blue Eyes).

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    by Thu November 13th, 2008, 17:17

    Quote Originally Posted by Dane
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderpig
    Quote Originally Posted by Dane
    Rap-Metal is a bastard son
    But I agree with you, it's probably more Metal than Rap. Even if that kinda pains me to say, because as a huge Classic Rock/Metal fan I have very few good things to say about the genre
    I do like some RATM though. Killing In The Name Of is a great track! Limb Bizkit? Slipknot? No thanks
    yeah RATM is probably the only rap-rock band who deserves a bit of respect, as for nu-metal (=Slipknot) I like the Deftones personally (especially their White Pony album), also some Korn songs...
    I like some Faith No More too, don't know if they're considered Rap-metal though. Not sure I like any Nu-Metal :-? I think I like one Korn song, I believe it's the one called Freak On A Leash. Also a couple of Linkin Park songs if that counts. In The End is great.

    The best Limb Bizkit song is a cover, and I much prefer the Who's original (Behind Blue Eyes).
    I wudn't go to the extend of calling faith No More - rap metal. Alternative metal wud be more apt; although there is no denying their influence on the likes of Korn and Linkin Park.

    Althou' Im no fan of rap metal, i like quite a few of the metalcore bands like Lamb of God, Trivium,Killswitch Engage,Shadows Fall - which have undoubtedly been influenced by the likes of RATM.

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    by Thu November 13th, 2008, 17:21

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderpig
    Quote Originally Posted by Dane
    Obviously I think a Hard Rock/Heavy Metal version of your thread would be interesting. Including anything from Journey and Bon Jovi to Metallica and Slayer.
    Maybe if you're not interested I should make one myself, if I find the time...
    I think the difficulty would be to define clearly "hard rock/heavy metal", I mean, if Journey is a hard rock band, I guess the Red Hot Chili Peppers are also one while rap music is quite easy to define, that's what I meant in my previous post, but yeah it could be interesting to make the equivalent of this thread for the metalheads, I can help if you want ;)
    I think this is a great idea.

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    by Thu November 13th, 2008, 17:25

    i likeD rap metal

    but only the early "rap-metal" mix

    RATM, 80's Red Hot Chili Peppers,Urban Dance Squad, Faith No More, early Beastie Boys, Dog Eat Dog, BodyCount, Downset, 311, Senser, Shootyz Groove ecc..
    they were original and innovators.

    for the nu metal-era (but imho nu metal is different from rap-metal crossover) i like early korn, deftones for sura (white pony is a great album), one minute silence, S.O.A.D (nu metal? ), Snot, some of slipknot, Mudvayne...

    obviously hate pop oriented bands like Linkin park, lostprophets, taproot, papa roach (infest was good), etc..
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    by Thu November 13th, 2008, 19:09

    Quote Originally Posted by will231982
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderpig
    Quote Originally Posted by Dane
    Obviously I think a Hard Rock/Heavy Metal version of your thread would be interesting. Including anything from Journey and Bon Jovi to Metallica and Slayer.
    Maybe if you're not interested I should make one myself, if I find the time...
    I think the difficulty would be to define clearly "hard rock/heavy metal", I mean, if Journey is a hard rock band, I guess the Red Hot Chili Peppers are also one while rap music is quite easy to define, that's what I meant in my previous post, but yeah it could be interesting to make the equivalent of this thread for the metalheads, I can help if you want ;)
    I think this is a great idea.
    OK then, I'll start the thread as a work in progress...

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    by Tue December 9th, 2008, 06:33

    It seems like all of the big rap albums have been released so the 2008 chart should look like this in the end, only 9 gold albums but hey, it's still better than the Hard Rock/Heavy Metal chart

    2008



    LIL WAYNE - Tha Carter III : 2x platinum (3x platinum soon)
    T.I. - Paper Trail : platinum (2x platinum maybe)
    KANYE WEST - 808s & Heartbreak : platinum
    LUDACRIS - Theater Of The Mind : gold
    RICK ROSS - Trilla : gold
    YOUNG JEEZY - The Recession : gold
    THE GAME - LAX : gold
    PLIES - Definition Of Real : gold
    NAS - Nas : gold
    SNOOP DOGG - Ego Trippin' : 400k

    I love how Flo Rida isn't even in the top 10, despite having one of the biggest rap hits of all time

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    by Tue December 9th, 2008, 23:50

    Please can someone post Soundscan numbers for Kanye West and 50 Cent's albums if possible?

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    by Wed December 10th, 2008, 05:17

    Rememder MIMS?? He had a huge number 1, but just look at his sales. I really laugh out loud. The genre Rap is all about singles now.

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    by Wed December 10th, 2008, 08:45

    the sales have been decreasing a lot, i would say the best era for RAP albums was in 1999-2005, in 2008 the only one multiplatinum rap album, but this album is on the other hand the best-selling effort of 2008

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    by Wed December 10th, 2008, 23:15

    Quote Originally Posted by skapunk
    The genre Rap is all about singles now.


    best selling albums released in 2008 :

    LIL WAYNE - Tha Carter III : 2,7 million
    COLDPLAY - Viva La Vida or Death And All His Friends : 2 million
    AC/DC - Black Ice : 1,6 million
    JACK JOHNSON - Sleep Through The Static : 1,4 million
    METALLICA - Death Magnetic : 1,4 million
    T.I. - Paper Trail : 1,3 million
    LEONA LEWIS - Spirit : 1,3 million
    TAYLOR SWIFT - Fearless : 1,3 million
    MARIAH CAREY - E=MC2 : 1,2 million
    Various Artists - MAMMA MIA (soundtrack) : 1,2 million

    rap : 4 million (Lil Wayne, TI)
    pop-rock : 3,4 million (Coldplay, Johnson)
    hard rock/metal : 3 million (AC/DC, Metallica)
    pop/r&b : 2,5 million (Leona, Mariah)
    country : 1,3 million (TSwift)
    whatever : 1,2 million (Mamma Mia)

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    by Wed December 10th, 2008, 23:17

    Quote Originally Posted by RyanP
    Please can someone post Soundscan numbers for Kanye West and 50 Cent's albums if possible?
    I don't have the exact numbers but it's something like this :

    50 :

    Get Rich - 7,8m
    The Massacre - 5,1m
    Curtis : 1,3m

    Kanye :

    College Dropout - 3,2m
    Late Registration : 2,9m
    Graduation : 2,2m

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    by Thu December 11th, 2008, 06:05

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderpig
    Quote Originally Posted by skapunk
    The genre Rap is all about singles now.


    best selling albums released in 2008 :

    LIL WAYNE - Tha Carter III : 2,7 million
    COLDPLAY - Viva La Vida or Death And All His Friends : 2 million
    AC/DC - Black Ice : 1,6 million
    JACK JOHNSON - Sleep Through The Static : 1,4 million
    METALLICA - Death Magnetic : 1,4 million
    T.I. - Paper Trail : 1,3 million
    LEONA LEWIS - Spirit : 1,3 million
    TAYLOR SWIFT - Fearless : 1,3 million
    MARIAH CAREY - E=MC2 : 1,2 million
    Various Artists - MAMMA MIA (soundtrack) : 1,2 million

    rap : 4 million (Lil Wayne, TI)
    pop-rock : 3,4 million (Coldplay, Johnson)
    hard rock/metal : 3 million (AC/DC, Metallica)
    pop/r&b : 2,5 million (Leona, Mariah)
    country : 1,3 million (TSwift)
    whatever : 1,2 million (Mamma Mia)
    Two top selling people of a particular genre doesnt represent the whole genre. Your choice of artists is weird too! Just ONE little example, you have excluded Rihanna and Madonna (they both have sold more than Mariah, whom you have chosen) and many other selling artists just to prove your point. You have manipulated with the choice of artists just to prove your point. I would suggest, we must take all the artists..yes, i mean ALL, of the particular genre, add their sales and find the average. Then we'll get the actual result.

    This whole thing is inappropriate.

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    by Thu December 11th, 2008, 19:17

    Yes, thank you. You rule.

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    by Thu December 11th, 2008, 19:17

    Quote Originally Posted by skapunk
    Your choice of artists is weird too! Just ONE little example, you have excluded Rihanna and Madonna (they both have sold more than Mariah, whom you have chosen) and many other selling artists just to prove your point. You have manipulated with the choice of artists just to prove your point.
    Huh? How on earth Madonna outsold Mariah in the US?

    He hasn't "manipulated" choices, he just added sales of all albums in the top 10/12 of the year.
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    by Sat December 13th, 2008, 15:04

    Young Jeezy's "The Recession" was finally certified Gold by the RIAA.
    "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is easily the best mainstream hip-hop album since 2001's The Blueprint by Jay-Z."

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    by Sun February 22nd, 2009, 16:05

    2008
    LIL WAYNE - Tha Carter III: 3x platinum
    T.I. - Paper Trail: platinum (2x platinum soon)
    KANYE WEST - 808s & Heartbreaks: platinum
    YOUNG JEEZY - The Recession : gold (platinum maybe)
    RICK ROSS - Trilla : gold
    LUDACRIS - Theater Of The Mind : gold
    THE GAME - LAX : gold
    PLIES - Definition Of Real : gold
    NAS - Nas : gold
    SNOOP DOGG - Ego Trippin' : 400k
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    by Sun February 22nd, 2009, 20:19

    Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III 3,012,110
    T.I. - Paper Trail 1,694,521
    Kanye West - 808s & Heartbreak 1,327,998
    Young Jeezy - The Recession 775,473
    Rick Ross - Trilla 750,000**
    The Game - LAX 675,969
    Plies - Definition Of Real 570,000**
    Ludacris - Theater Of The Mind 554,739
    T-Pain Th33 Ringz 488,261
    Nas - Untitled 480,000**

    ** These are estimations...the albums aren't in charts anymore.

    So Flo Rida, Nelly, G-Unit & Snoop Dogg are out from the top 10! They all sold less than 400k!
    "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is easily the best mainstream hip-hop album since 2001's The Blueprint by Jay-Z."

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    by Mon February 23rd, 2009, 01:46

    thanks guys, the top 4 is almost certain now (Weezy-TI-Kanye-Jeezy) but for the rest I'm really not sure...
    Ludacris is still selling and could end up #5 (a little more than 700k could be enough, I don't think Rick Ross sold more than 720k actually), Plies' third album is also doing ok and could sell 400k (enough to be top 10, sadly), and btw I wouldn't consider T-Pain as a rapper, I mean right now he's certainly more a rapper than Kanye but still

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    by Mon February 23rd, 2009, 01:47

    Well done, the best topic, the best user. The best.

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