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    by » Tue March 31st, 2009, 11:53

    Hi, I'm looking for information on how Diana has performed in the Charts all over the world. I have the British, USA, Irish info as well as some sites for Western Europe (although not all), Australia up to 1992, and South Africa up to 1989.

    Can anyone help?

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    by » Fri April 3rd, 2009, 14:00

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    Top Catalog Albums
    Week Ending 3/29/09 - 4/11 Billboard Catalog chart

    1 MOT 179 ROSS*DIANA & SUPREMES #1'S 1,390 1,153 21 390,093
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    by » Mon July 12th, 2010, 23:49

    Quote Originally Posted by borderwolf
    From 2m at Pulse:

    Top Catalog Albums
    Week Ending 3/29/09 - 4/11 Billboard Catalog chart

    1 MOT 179 ROSS*DIANA & SUPREMES #1'S 1,390 1,153 21 390,093
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    Does the 390,093 number represent a figure for total units verified by SoundScan through 3/29/09?
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    by » Tue July 13th, 2010, 07:48

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnamon83199
    Borderwolf,

    Does the 390,093 number represent a figure for total units verified by SoundScan through 3/29/09?
    Exactly. But I don't know if there are other different editions counted separately
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    by » Mon June 18th, 2012, 17:18

    For those unaware of the messageboard Haven, there is presently underway a very informative and well set-out run down of the best selling album acts in Britain. It has been created by a poster called Shireblogger and his Diana Ross conclusions can be found here

    http://fatherandy2.proboards.com/index. ... =8#1664061

    To save the trip, this is the gist of his findings for Diana Ross who came in at No. 76 in the Top 100, and the three biggest albums by his reckoning:

    "DIANA ROSS :: 5.6m

    1. One Woman - Ultimate Collection :: 1,175k
    2. Force Behind The Power :: 475k
    3. Greatest Hits 2 :: 400k


    OK, this could get complicated. For me, Diana Ross includes all solo albums (obviously), full sales of duet albums with Michael Jackson & Marvin Gaye, and full sales of compilations with the Supremes but only if they include Diana Ross solo material.

    If you wish to do something different, the full Diana Ross / Supremes breakdown is as follows:-
    Diana Ross solo & duets :: 5.25m
    Diana Ross & Supremes compilations with Diana Ross solo material :: 0.35m
    Diana Ross & Supremes albums where Diana was lead singer of the group, studio + compilation + "duets" with the Temptations :: 2.15m
    Supremes albums while Diana Ross was a member but got no lead singer credit :: 0.15m
    Supremes albums after Diana Ross left :: 0.05m

    This puts the Supremes (with & without Diana Ross) at #212 on 2.7m."


    What I found especially meritorious is the time spent at the outset to expand on how he has arrived at his estimates – in other words what he’s included and what, more importantly, he’s omitted from his calculations. Basically he has stuck to OCC retail information from the charts and a system of chart-based algorithms and the like for earlier years. He largely ignores any club data and most certification information except as a means to cross-check his results. Does it work well? Who knows, and what is also praiseworthy is Shireblogger himself confirms he will be ‘wrong’ despite declaring himself to have been determinedly conservative.

    So how can we decide whether or not these findings are more inclined to be ‘right’ than ‘wrong’? Well his attitude to conservatism got me to thinking about another poster who always maintained he too was inclined to be conservative in his estimations – MJDangerous. As he too has perfected a similar algorithmic system for worldwide estimating via his Fan of Music site it is perhaps unfair to consider his findings against anyone else’s which is purely UK-focussed. Moreover he has apparently been able to make allowances for club and certification awards to attempt to quantify shipments, so clearly the results will be far higher than a largely retail look at things, and in the case of La Ross his equivalent UK total on a strict comparison basis is over 10m.

    On the face of it I find the chasm between the two totals too great to be simply bridged by spurious nods towards club sales and the like. Nevertheless as I like Diana I'm prepared to take the time (a la the J5 thread) to consider the details more closely in due course as I know them, and as before by using some comparisons we can maybe decide if one method is more ‘right’ than ‘wrong’.

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    by » Thu February 7th, 2013, 17:56

    SoundScan updates 16 february
    (thanks arab)



    ROSS*DIANA & SUPREMES BEST OF DIANA ROSS & THE SUPRE 1 568 23 1 273 520 904
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    by » Sat February 9th, 2013, 05:41

    Diana trully helped paved the way for women and artist of color but does not get the regonition she deserves. Im sorry but George Harrison makes it in Hall of Fame but no Diana Ross. No disrepect to the 80s/90s divas but shen is the ultimate Diva.

    -Hot 100-
    6 #1s
    12 Top 10s
    27 Top 40s
    41 Top 100s

    -Hot R&B Chart-
    5 #1s
    18 Top 10s
    51 Top 100s

    -UK-
    2 #1s
    19 Top 10s
    46 Top 40s
    69 Top 100s
    Sales= 5,700,000 singles
    Albums= 8,9 million

    MJDangerous has her album sales at 53,350,000 sold.

    I hav e Diana for 110 Million Records and that doesn't include her work with The Supremes.
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    by » Thu February 21st, 2013, 12:46

    SoundScan updates: charts of 2 march 2013


    ROSS*DIANA & SUPREMES BEST OF DIANA ROSS & THE SUPRE 1,941 11 1,743 524,588
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    by » Thu April 11th, 2013, 21:03

    US Catalog

    11 R-RR 106 139 96 ROSS*DIANA & SUPREMES BEST OF DIANA ROSS & THE SUPRE 1,987 6 1,879 537,505

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    by » Thu June 6th, 2013, 16:48

    Does anyone know how well she has done in Denmark over the years. I heard Upside Down reached number one in 1980. Any other info would be great.

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    by » Tue June 11th, 2013, 14:00

    I was wondering which of Diana's solo singles had sold over 1m worldwide.

    As with most Motown artists particularly in the early days sales info is very limited.

    Motown also didn't join the RIAA until right at the end of the 70s so no certifications were made until then..

    I don't think there are all that many - she seemed to have a lot of medium and small hits peppered with real biggies.

    Her biggest selling single of all was the 1981 duet with Lionel Richie Endless Love. This was also the biggest selling record of the year in the US, platinum certified over 2m. (Only #2 on Billboard's top 100 of 1981 because it was based on an inverted points system and not actual sales.)

    Joseph Murrells is one source who is highly regarded but his lists do have to taken with a pinch of salt as he tended to take any figures which were put out as bona fide. For example, he reported a Beatles' US EP which sold only a few thousand as a million seller. He also claimed Diana's last Supremes' single Someday We'll Be Together had sold 1m in the US by Jan 1970 with an RIAA Gold Disc award which was impossible as already mentioned Motown weren't members of this.

    Upside Down (1980) was the only solo single which actually received an RIAA award claimed in 1981.

    Of Murrell's other singles claimed as 1m+ there's no reason to disbelieve the figures for Ain't No Mountain High Enough and Touch Me In The Morning which were#1 in the US, top 10 in the UK and hits in many other countries.

    It may come as something of a surprise that it is generally accepted that Touch Me is actually Diana's biggest ever selling single in the US.

    Of her other 2 #1s Do You Know Where You're Going To is not thought to have quite sold 1m at the time but has probably added sales through the years plus it did over 160k in the UK so is surely om the list.

    Love Hangover is a mystery - it was a smash US #1 in 1976 but if Murrells had one fault it was that he tended to err on the high side and yet he doesn't include this as a million seller.

    J Randy Taraborelli whose figures are also questioned does claim this as one of Diana's instant million sellers in the US. It sold around 150kin the UK and was a #3 hit in France so it could easily be but it's one I just don't know about.

    I'm Coming Out (US #5) is another single which could possibly have done 1m worldwide. It was top 10 in France and although only #13 in the UK was in the chart during a period of high sales and is estimated at 140k or so. Although Diana is not a prolific seller on Download this is one of her biggest in the UK. By 1980 Motown was in the RIAA and if this had sold 1m in the US Motown would have claimed certification but just how close did it get. You would think it was well over 500k.

    No other solo Diana Motown record sold 1m in the US and the biggest of those wouldn't have sold enough in other territories to put them over 1m. Her biggest seller in the UK in the 70s was I'm Still Waiting but at 420k wouldn't come close to 1m worldwide.

    It is hard to see what other 70s tracks even made it over 500k.

    Remember Me is a possibility and probably the biggest seller was Last Time I Saw Him which did well in the Adult Contemporary market but not particularly overseas.

    One of the difficulties is that chart position in the US because of the inclusion of airplay doesn't really give an accurate idea of sales.

    It is quite interesting to note that in Diana's early solo career her records regularly charted higher in Cashbox and Record World which were based solely on sales at that time.

    Reach Out And Touch, Remember Me and Last Time I Saw Him all went top 10 except on Billboard.

    I suppose it is also possible that smallish sales in a large number of territories could all add up but I can't see any particular record that this might apply to.

    That accounts for Motown.

    It's just a pity that the lowest certification for singles at this time was gold for 1m, When Diana moved on to RCA there's no question that they would have put in for any certifications so if the figure had been 500k it would have given some indication of sales levels there.

    We can assume that none of her singles there sold 1m in the US and based on chart performance that's not a surprise but there are a few records there which sold extremely well in other parts of the world.

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    by » Sat July 6th, 2013, 17:50

    7/13 Catalog

    112 ROSS*DIANA & SUPREMES BEST OF DIANA ROSS & THE SUPRE 1,598 +17% 1,363 552,660 not certified

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    by » Sat July 6th, 2013, 21:17

    I have a good inclination of Diana's Motown album sales.

    Her 1970 solo debut sold half a million units when it was out.

    Her 1972 soundtrack to "Lady Sings the Blues" was said to have sold one million units and since it was a double album, that means 500,000. Again half a million copies.

    Her other albums like "Surrender" did probably 300,000. "Everything is Everything" a quarter million (250,000).

    "Diana & Marvin" - 500,000 copies (which was way lower than Marvin's 1970s album sales at the time but around the corner of Diana's).

    "Last Time I Saw Him" possibly 100,000.

    "Diana Ross 1976" half a million (mainly due to the success of "Love Hangover").

    "Baby It's Me" 100,000, "Ross 1978" even smaller than that (probably 80,000).

    "The Boss", 500,000 copies.

    "diana 1980", the first Diana Ross album to sell a million copies. Possibly 2.5 million copies worldwide.

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    That's just the studio albums, not sure about compilations. But compared to Marvin and Stevie, her album sales left a lot to be desired.
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    by » Thu August 1st, 2013, 18:06

    Billboard All-time Hot 100 (1958-2013)

    15 "Endless Love" - Diana Ross & Lionel Richie (#1 9 weeks) 1981
    72 "Upside Down" - Diana Ross (#1 4 weeks) 1980

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    by » Fri August 16th, 2013, 15:57

    8/24 BB200:

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    Chart Moves: Lorde's 'Love' Rises, Cody Simpson Surges, the Supremes Return to Billboard 200

    -- Diana Ross & the Supremes, "20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection" (No. 200): The album was released on Oct. 19, 1999, but finally makes its belated debut nearly 14 years later. It's the 38th chart entry for the Supremes and comes just before the 49th anniversary of the act's debut on the Billboard 200 (Sept. 19, 1964).

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    by » Fri August 16th, 2013, 21:58

    8/24 BB200:

    200 ROSS*DIANA&SUPREMES BESTOFDIANA ROSS&THE SUPRE 2,150 +18% 1,825 563,317 not certified

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    by » Sun August 18th, 2013, 10:13

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    DIANA ROSS - VOICE OF LOVE
    Silver Certification (Album) 22 July 2013
    WARNER MUSIC (PARLOPHONE)
    Released

    DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES - 40 GOLDEN MOTOWN GREATS
    Gold Certification (Album) 22 July 2013
    UNIVERSAL MUSIC ()
    Released


    DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES - YOU KEEP ME HANGIN' ON
    Silver Certification (Album) 22 July 2013
    UNIVERSAL MUSIC ()
    Released

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    by » Fri August 23rd, 2013, 11:14

    If as I believe You Keep Me Hangin' On was a budget album release it would have to have sold 120k for a silver award!

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    by » Wed December 11th, 2013, 18:32

    12/21 BB200:

    music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/chart-watch-britney-slow-start-164249866.html

    A Mary Christmas is Blige's 12th top 10 album, which is the most of any African American female solo artist in chart history.

    If you combine group and solo albums, Diana Ross is tied with Blige. Ross had eight top 10 albums fronting the Supremes and four more on her own. Blige's top 10 albums span more than 21 years (from What's The 411? in September 1992 to this week). Ross' top 10 albums spanned a little less than 16 years (from the Supremes' Where Did Our Love Go in December 1964 to Diana in November 1980).

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    by » Sat April 12th, 2014, 03:41

    4/12/14 Catalog 200

    101 ROSS*DIANA & SUPREMES BEST OF DIANA ROSS & THE SUPRE 1,572 3 1,533 615,949 not certified

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    by » Sat April 12th, 2014, 05:05

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Um Mariah Carey has had 16 top ten albums.
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    by » Sat April 12th, 2014, 18:21

    Quote Originally Posted by TIfan
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Um Mariah Carey has had 16 top ten albums.
    They weren't mentioned who had the most top ten albums.
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    by » Sat April 12th, 2014, 18:33

    Quote Originally Posted by TIfan
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Um Mariah Carey has had 16 top ten albums.
    They were talking about african american artists.

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