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    by Sun February 28th, 2010, 20:00

    One of my favourite British bands of all-time, and, yet again, highly underrated. They only ever seemed to have major success in the UK, elsewhere their sales appeal seemed very limited looking at the facts and stats, apart from maybe a bit of success in Ireland.

    Again, for those too young to remember, here's info. on the band courtesy of Wikipaedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranglers

    And here's their discography from Wikipaedia as well:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranglers_discography

    I have a feeling that this discography maybe somewhat incomplete, knowing Wikipaedia!

    Here's a discography showing many of the records they released around the World:

    http://www.stranglers.org.uk/

    They are just one of those countless number of bands that really should have been bigger, they should have sold more, they deserved to be bigger. Maybe their name did not help - perhaps not politically correct to call yourselves The Stranglers when there were cases like the Yorkshire Ripper murders going on here in England at the time, or the BTK killer cases in the States. Whatever the reason, they were commercial failures away from the UK in many markets, and they should not have been for, musically, they were the best of the punk bands, in fact, they were sublime, in my view. Again, as per usual with my threads, I shall use youtube links to illustrate the point. How about this for an ending to an album? It ended their Rattus Norvegicus album, their first studio album, and in my view it rivals any ending to any album in the entire history of rock music! Yes, that includes the ending tracks to Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon, or the Beatles Sgt Pepper, or any album ending you care to mention. The track was called Down In The Sewer (the sewer referring to London), and I still find it a joy to listen too:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkCho1Pzs00

    They continued to make great records right into the eighties, this next one was called Always The Sun, again, a brilliant track here, much smoother than the above track, and in my opinion great to listen to:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy9-epdDw9E

    And they are still making good records now, here's a taster of their latest single release, Retro Rockets:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn5EZtIZVLU

    So many great tracks, so many great songs, so much musical talent, so little international success outside the UK!!

    One of pop's great mysteries to me, I have heard fellow musicians say that The Stranglers should have been much, much bigger. Great band, the most talented punk band musically in my view.
    They did not sell many, but they were one of the best - God save the Kinks!

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    by Mon March 1st, 2010, 13:11

    No interest, noone like the Stanglers out there? Maybe that explains their lack of record sales, then!
    They did not sell many, but they were one of the best - God save the Kinks!

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    by Mon March 1st, 2010, 13:27

    Quote Originally Posted by borderwolf
    Thanks for this new thread!
    My pleasure, borderwolf! You wait and see, and watch this thread grow and grow! By the end of the week, there maybe at least...........4 posts on it!!


    They did not sell many, but they were one of the best - God save the Kinks!

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    by Mon March 1st, 2010, 17:59

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat
    lack of record sales
    Well, they were quite big in the UK, and they released one of the best albums in history (imho), "Rattus Norvegicus".
    They had three top10 hits from their first two albums, they sold well two "difficult" albums such as The Raven and the Aliens concpet LP, before releasing their biggest hit, Golden Brown.
    They're simply GREAT!
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    by Mon March 1st, 2010, 19:59

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowplay
    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat
    lack of record sales
    Well, they were quite big in the UK, and they released one of the best albums in history (imho), "Rattus Norvegicus".
    They had three top10 hits from their first two albums, they sold well two "difficult" albums such as The Raven and the Aliens concpet LP, before releasing their biggest hit, Golden Brown.
    They're simply GREAT!
    Thanks Shadowplay, I was beginning to think that I was the only Stranglers fan on the whole forum!

    Yes, they fared very well indeed in their home market, wish they had done better elsewhere.
    They did not sell many, but they were one of the best - God save the Kinks!

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    by Tue March 2nd, 2010, 10:38

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowplay
    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat
    lack of record sales
    Well, they were quite big...
    Thanks ...
    Yes, they fared very well indeed in their home market, wish they had done better elsewhere.
    At least Golden Brown is countinuously aired by Virgin Radio!

    There's a plethora of punk/new wave British groups unfortunately forgotten or too niche to be fully rediscovered.
    Gang Of Four, The Fall, Television, or the Bow Wow Wow and Adam & The Ants themselves (although they were poppy and bashed at the time, their music is really powerful after 30 years).
    Sometimes I think a good compilation could revitalize the sales of those artists, but it seems only a few soundtracks did this job:
    - Marie Antoinette (Gang Of Four, Bow Wow Wow)
    - Donnie Darko (Echo & The Bunnymen)
    - Lost In Translation (Jesus & Mary Chain).
    It could be interesting to know how much these soundtracks sold, in the UK and abroad.
    "Despair, regret, and tenderness is what I feel for you"

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    by Wed March 3rd, 2010, 10:59

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowplay
    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowplay
    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat
    lack of record sales
    Well, they were quite big...
    Thanks ...
    Yes, they fared very well indeed in their home market, wish they had done better elsewhere.
    At least Golden Brown is countinuously aired by Virgin Radio!

    There's a plethora of punk/new wave British groups unfortunately forgotten or too niche to be fully rediscovered.
    Gang Of Four, The Fall, Television, or the Bow Wow Wow and Adam & The Ants themselves (although they were poppy and bashed at the time, their music is really powerful after 30 years).
    Sometimes I think a good compilation could revitalize the sales of those artists, but it seems only a few soundtracks did this job:
    - Marie Antoinette (Gang Of Four, Bow Wow Wow)
    - Donnie Darko (Echo & The Bunnymen)
    - Lost In Translation (Jesus & Mary Chain).
    It could be interesting to know how much these soundtracks sold, in the UK and abroad.
    Thanks again, shadowplay, yes, Golden Brown is also played a great deal on my local oldies station. It must be cheap to play! I wonder how many of these dj's who play it on daytime shows realise what it is about, though..................
    They did not sell many, but they were one of the best - God save the Kinks!

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    by Thu March 4th, 2010, 11:42

    And,why not, here is that song Golden Brown:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7R7q1lSZfs

    Excellent stuff!

    I am determined to keep this thread going until such time as I get some decent replies!! :evil:

    They did not sell many, but they were one of the best - God save the Kinks!

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    by Thu March 4th, 2010, 12:46

    Hi Blackcat, while I enjoy bits and pieces from the Stranglers catalogue, tracks such as Something Better Change, Duchess, No More Heroes, Skin Deep, they will never be my favourite band.

    Just a thought, why don't you post some chart analysis or sales figures, most of these posts you post, seem (to me) designed to stimulate discussion about an act, which is not really the nature of this specific forum, would this not be better (and the others you post) in the rock forum, The Retro or Mad about Music, they might get a better response?

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    by Thu March 4th, 2010, 14:04

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmypages59
    Hi Blackcat, while I enjoy bits and pieces from the Stranglers catalogue, tracks such as Something Better Change, Duchess, No More Heroes, Skin Deep, they will never be my favourite band.

    Just a thought, why don't you post some chart analysis or sales figures, most of these posts you post, seem (to me) designed to stimulate discussion about an act, which is not really the nature of this specific forum, would this not be better (and the others you post) in the rock forum, The Retro or Mad about Music, they might get a better response?
    Yes, you might have a point, Jimmy. But in the Stranglers case, are there many non-UK sales figures to analyse.............

    Actually the posts in the other forums, in my experience, don't seem to attract as many responses as one would want in an ideal World. It seems to be this forum that has the really long running threads.

    Still, point taken!
    They did not sell many, but they were one of the best - God save the Kinks!

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    by Thu March 4th, 2010, 23:13

    Here's what I have concerning charts:

    AUSTRALIA [Kent Music Report]
    singles:
    Peaches: 09/01/1978 - #54 - 12 wks
    Golden Brown: 29/03/1982 - #10 - 15 wks
    Skin Deep: 24/12/1984 - #11 - 19 wks
    No Mercy: 29/04/1985 - #90 - 4 wks
    Always the Sun: 22/12/1986 - #21 - 17 wks
    albums:
    No More Heroes: 16/01/1978 - #79 - 3 wks
    Stranglers IV: Rattus Norvegicus: 06/03/1978 - #82 - 4 wks
    Black and White: 10/07/1978 - #81 - 7 wks
    Live (X Cert): 12/03/1979 - #76 - 3 wks
    The Raven: 19/11/1979 - #71 - 3 wks
    La Folie: 05/04/1982 - #29 - 12 wks
    The Collection 1977-1982: 15/11/1982 - #92 - 1 wk
    Aurul Sculpture: 21/01/1985 - #38 - 21 wks
    Dreamtime: 02/02/1987 - #64 - 9 wks

    AUSTRIA
    singles [Oe3 Hitparade - radio]:
    Golden Brown: 07/03/1982 - #24 - 1 wk
    Strange Little Girl: 19/09/1982 - #17 - 3 wks

    BELGIUM
    singles [BRT Top 30]:
    Golden Brown: 27/02/1982 - #8 - 7 wks
    Skindeep: 29/12/1984 - #15 - 5 wks
    No Mercy: 02/02/1985 - #8 - 6 wks
    Big In America: 31/01/1987 - #30 - 1 wk

    CANADA [RPM]
    singles:
    No Mercy: 13/07/1985 - #88 - 7 wks
    albums:
    Feline: 19/03/1983 - #84 - 9 wks
    Aural Sculpture: 23/02/1985 - #35 - 23 wks
    Dreamtime: 22/11/1986 - #83 - 8 wks

    FRANCE
    singles [IFOP Top 50 - official]:
    Always The Sun: 17/01/1987 - #15 - 13 wks
    singles [InfoDisc]:
    Golden Brown: 05/03/1982 - #73 - 4 wks
    Always The Sun: 08/11/1986 - #16 - 26 wks
    albums:
    Norfolk Coast: 15/02/2004 - #142 - 2 wks

    WEST GERMANY [Media Control]
    singles:
    Golden Brown: 05/04/1982 - #63 - 3 wks
    No Mercy: 11/02/1985 - #28 - 13 wks
    Big In America: 23/02/1987 - #50 - 6 wks

    IRELAND [IRMA]
    singles:
    Walk on by: 07/08/1978 - #11 - 1 wk
    Duccess: 02/09/1979 - #27 - 2 wks
    Golden Brown: 24/01/1982 - #3 - 8 wks
    Strange Little Girl: 01/08/1982 - #7 - 5 wks
    European Female: 09/01/1983 - #9 - 4 wks
    Midnight Summer Dream: 06/03/1983 - #24 - 1 wk
    Skin Deep: 07/10/1984 - #11 - 4 wks
    Nice in Nice: 24/08/1986 - #19 - 3 wks
    Always The Sun: 26/10/1986 - #16 - 3 wks
    Big In America: 21/12/1986 - #28 - 2 wks
    All Day and All of the Night: 07/01/1988 - #3 - 4 wks
    96 Tears: 15/02/1990 - #9 - 3 wks
    Golden Brown: 28/03/1991 - #25 - 1 wk

    THE NETHERLANDS
    singles [Dutch Top 50/100]:
    Something Better Change: 22/10/1977 - #29 - 2 wks
    No More Heroes: 21/01/1978 - #25 - 5 wks
    Golden Brown: 13/02/1982 - #10 - 8 wks
    Skin Deep: 24/11/1984 - #21 - 6 wks
    No Mercy: 26/01/1985 - #32 - 7 wks
    Always The Sun: 15/11/1986 - #42 - 4 wks
    Heaven Or Hell: 19/09/1992 - #77 - 3 wks
    singles [Nederlandse Top 40]:
    No More Heroes: 14/01/1978 - #29 - 5 wks
    Golden Brown: 13/02/1982 - #8 - 8 wks
    Skin Deep: 24/11/1984 - #27 - 5 wks
    No Mercy: 02/02/1985 - #27 - 6 wks
    Always The Sun: 06/12/1986 - #35 - 3 wks
    albums:
    La folie: 20/02/1982 - #6 - 12 wks
    Aural Sculpture: 24/11/1984 - #23 - 21 wks
    Dreamtime: 15/11/1986 - #37 - 7 wks

    NEW ZEALAND [RIANZ]
    singles:
    (Get A) Grip (On Yourself): 11/09/1977 - #35 - 2 wks
    Skin Deep: 03/03/1985 - #19 - 14 wks
    All Day And All Of The Night: 27/03/1988 - #38 - 4 wks
    albums:
    X Cert (Live 77/78): 27/05/1979 - #49 - 2 wks
    The Meninblack: 12/04/1981 - #40 - 2 wks
    The Collection 1977-1982: 17/10/1982 - #16 - 9 wks
    Feline: 17/04/1983 - #18 - 8 wks
    Aural Sculpture: 10/02/1985 - #13 - 22 wks
    Dreamtime: 15/02/1987 - #45 - 1 wk

    NORWAY [VG-Lista]
    albums:
    Feline: 05/1983 - #16 - 4 wks

    POLAND [Trzecie Polskie Radio]
    songs:
    Golden Brown: 01/05/1982 - #13 - 6 wks
    Strange Little Girl: 02/10/1982 - #8 - 7 wks
    European Female: 27/11/1982 - #19 - 6 wks
    Midnight Summer Dream: 26/02/1983 - #1 - 11 wks
    Paradise: 13/08/1983 - #19 - 4 wks
    Skin Deep: 13/10/1984 - #9 - 7 wks
    Ice Queen: 09/02/1985 - #6 - 8 wks
    Always the Sun: 20/12/1986 - #7 - 13 wks

    PORTUGAL
    albums:
    12/4/1982 3(3) - The Stranglers "La folie"

    SPAIN
    singles:
    Always the Sun: 28/03/1986 - #25 - 2 wks
    singles [Los 40 Principales - radio]:
    Golden Brown: 17/07/1982 - #36 - 2 wks
    European Female: 07/05/1983 - #38 - 1 wk
    Skin Deep: 23/03/1985 - #38 - 1 wk
    Spain: 22/06/1985 - #33 - 1 wk
    Always the Sun: 21/03/1987 - #37 - 1 wk
    All Day and All of the Night: 12/03/1988 - #32 - 1 wk

    SWEDEN [swedishcharts.com]
    albums:
    Black And White: 19/05/1978 - #35 - 2 wks
    Aural Sculpture: 21/12/1984 - #37 - 3 wks

    UK [Music Week]

    http://www.chartstats.com/artistinfo.php?id=978

    USA [Billboard]
    singles:
    Skin Deep: 1985 - #49 in Club Play chart
    Sweet Smell of Success: 1990-06-16 - #5 in Modern Rock Tracks chart - 10 wks
    albums:
    Dreamtime: 05/02/1987 - #172 - 4 wks

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    by Thu March 4th, 2010, 23:16

    As for the band itself, I find their early records rather heavy listening and actually think they're pretty inconsistent - they have some real gems like "Golden Brown", "North Winds Blowing", "Always the Sun" etc., but albums contain lots of filler (or, better say, tracks that I don't like). Still, it's one of the better New Wave bands and, I think, are underappreciated somewhat.

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    by Fri March 5th, 2010, 12:09

    Thanks passing/strang, what can I say? You helped me with the Cars, and you helped again here! Good man!

    I think that they were a good band, musically better than most other punk bands, maybe not as much charisma as The Sex Pistols, for example.

    Thanks again for your input!
    They did not sell many, but they were one of the best - God save the Kinks!

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    by Fri March 5th, 2010, 21:37

    Glad to be of help And besides, I'm glad to share the info I've got.

    Will add some missing info later, when I get one.

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    by Fri March 19th, 2010, 18:14

    Stranglers est. UK sales from Haven:

    STRANGLERS :: 2,750k

    1 -- Golden Brown :: 660k .. {1982} #11 Year End
    2 -- Peaches / Go Buddy Go :: 285k .. {1977} #58 y.e.
    3 -- No More Heroes :: 220k .. {1977} #76
    4 -- Strange Little Girl :: 180k .. {1982}
    5 -- Duchess :: 150k .. {1979}
    6 -- Something Better Change / Straighten Out :: 140k .. {1977}
    7 -- Five Minutes :: 130k .. {1978}
    8 -- Nice'N'Sleazy :: 120k .. {1978}
    9 -- Skin Deep :: 100k .. {1984}
    10 -- All Day And All Of The Night :: 100k .. {1988}
    11 -- European Female :: 90k .. {1983}
    12 -- Walk On By :: 85k .. {1978}
    13 -- Always The Sun :: 60k .. {1986}
    14 -- No Mercy :: 50k .. {1984}
    15 -- 96 Tears :: 50k .. {1990}
    16 -- Nuclear Device :: 35k .. {1979}
    17 -- Bear Cage :: 30k .. {1980}
    18 -- Nice In Nice :: 30k .. {1986}
    19 -- Don't Bring Harry EP :: 25k .. {1979}
    20 -- Midnight Summer Dream :: 25k .. {1983}
    21 -- Big In America :: 25k .. {1986}
    22 -- Who Wants The World :: 20k .. {1980}
    23 -- (Get A) Grip (On Yourself) :: 15k .. {1977}
    24 -- Thrown Away :: 15k .. {1981}
    25 -- Let Me Introduce You To The Family :: 15k .. {1981}
    26 -- La Folie :: 15k .. {1982}
    27 -- Paradise :: 15k .. {1983}
    28 -- Let Me Down Easy :: 15k .. {1985}
    29 -- Grip 89 (Get A) Grip (On Yourself) :: 15k .. {1989}
    30 -- Shakin' Like A Leaf :: 10k .. {1987}
    31 -- Sweet Smell Of Success :: 5k .. {1990}
    32 -- Heaven Or Hell :: 5k .. {1992}
    33 -- Big Thing Coming :: 5k .. {2004}
    34 -- Long Black Veil :: 5k .. {2004}
    35 -- Spectre Of Love :: 5k .. {2006}
    "Despair, regret, and tenderness is what I feel for you"

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    by Fri March 19th, 2010, 18:55

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowplay
    Stranglers est. UK sales from Haven:

    STRANGLERS :: 2,750k

    1 -- Golden Brown :: 660k .. {1982} #11 Year End
    2 -- Peaches / Go Buddy Go :: 285k .. {1977} #58 y.e.
    3 -- No More Heroes :: 220k .. {1977} #76
    4 -- Strange Little Girl :: 180k .. {1982}
    5 -- Duchess :: 150k .. {1979}
    6 -- Something Better Change / Straighten Out :: 140k .. {1977}
    7 -- Five Minutes :: 130k .. {1978}
    8 -- Nice'N'Sleazy :: 120k .. {1978}
    9 -- Skin Deep :: 100k .. {1984}
    10 -- All Day And All Of The Night :: 100k .. {1988}
    11 -- European Female :: 90k .. {1983}
    12 -- Walk On By :: 85k .. {1978}
    13 -- Always The Sun :: 60k .. {1986}
    14 -- No Mercy :: 50k .. {1984}
    15 -- 96 Tears :: 50k .. {1990}
    16 -- Nuclear Device :: 35k .. {1979}
    17 -- Bear Cage :: 30k .. {1980}
    18 -- Nice In Nice :: 30k .. {1986}
    19 -- Don't Bring Harry EP :: 25k .. {1979}
    20 -- Midnight Summer Dream :: 25k .. {1983}
    21 -- Big In America :: 25k .. {1986}
    22 -- Who Wants The World :: 20k .. {1980}
    23 -- (Get A) Grip (On Yourself) :: 15k .. {1977}
    24 -- Thrown Away :: 15k .. {1981}
    25 -- Let Me Introduce You To The Family :: 15k .. {1981}
    26 -- La Folie :: 15k .. {1982}
    27 -- Paradise :: 15k .. {1983}
    28 -- Let Me Down Easy :: 15k .. {1985}
    29 -- Grip 89 (Get A) Grip (On Yourself) :: 15k .. {1989}
    30 -- Shakin' Like A Leaf :: 10k .. {1987}
    31 -- Sweet Smell Of Success :: 5k .. {1990}
    32 -- Heaven Or Hell :: 5k .. {1992}
    33 -- Big Thing Coming :: 5k .. {2004}
    34 -- Long Black Veil :: 5k .. {2004}
    35 -- Spectre Of Love :: 5k .. {2006}
    Thanks shadowplay, much appreciated!
    They did not sell many, but they were one of the best - God save the Kinks!

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    by Mon December 8th, 2014, 11:21

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    by Fri February 23rd, 2018, 17:44

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    Stranglers
    Rattus Norvegicus
    Parlophone Silver Album
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    by Sun May 12th, 2019, 15:09

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