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    by » 22-09-10, 02:50

    Mariah's second christmas album will be released in Nov. 2nd, but I guess we can already open a thread for it since the press release just came out with many details



    Mariah Carey Completes Merry Christmas II You - Second Holiday Album From the Greatest Singer of Our Time, Arriving November 2nd

    "ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS YOU" - ALL-TIME #1 PLATINUM STANDARD - IS RE-RECORDED IN BRAND NEW VERSION FOR NEW ALBUM

    INCLUDES FOUR NEW ORIGINAL SONGS WRITTEN BY MARIAH, INCLUDING THE FIRST SINGLE "OH SANTA"


    As autumn leaves begin to fall, international superstar Mariah Carey puts the finishing touches on MERRY CHRISTMAS II YOU, her second career album of holiday tunes, arriving November 2nd on the Island Def Jam Music Group. Highlighting the long-awaited new album is a brand new recording of Mariah's all-time standard, "All I Want For Christmas Is You."

    In addition to traditional yuletide fare - "The First Noel," "Little Drummer Boy," "O Little Town of Bethlehem," "O Come All Ye Faithful" and more - MERRY CHRISTMAS II YOU also contains four original songs composed by Mariah, including the new single, "Oh Santa," and many more surprises for the fans. Producers on the new album include American Idol's Randy Jackson, multi-platinum hit-making producer Jermaine Dupri, James Poyser (acclaimed producer for Aretha Franklin, The Roots, Lauryn Hill and more), and five-time Oscar nominee and Grammy/Tony/Emmy award winning composer Marc Shaiman.

    Since it was first released, "All I Want For Christmas Is You," written by Mariah Carey and Walter Afanasieff, has become one of the essential musical hallmarks of the holiday season, and continues to set sales records each year. The song hit #1 on Billboard's Hot 100 Singles Recurrents chart every year from 2005 to 2008. After ringtones began to be charted in 2006, "All I Want For Christmas Is You" hit #1 for the next three consecutive holiday seasons. It became the first seasonal Mastertone to be certified RIAA gold (2006) and RIAA platinum (2007), and is ranked as the top-selling seasonal ringtone of all-time. "All I Want For Christmas is You" was the featured single from MERRY CHRISTMAS, which has sold over 12 million to date.

    MERRY CHRISTMAS II YOU is Mariah Carey's 13th studio album, and follows up her worldwide multi-million-selling Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel (released September 2009), her multi-platinum E=MC˛ (2008), and worldwide 10 million selling The Emancipation Of Mimi (2005). The Emancipation Of Mimi generated three Grammy awards (including Best Contemporary R&B Album), two #1 singles, and countless more honors during its 18-month chart stay. Soundscan's biggest-selling album of 2005, Mimi featured "We Belong Together" (Grammy winner for Best Female R&B Vocal and Best R&B Song) and "Don't Forget About Us," Mariah's 16th and 17th #1 career singles, respectively. They tied one of the most enduring chart records in Billboard Hot 100 history, Elvis Presley's 17 #1's.

    Three years later, Mariah surpassed Elvis when "Touch My Body" (from E=MC˛) became her 18th #1 Hot 100 hit. "Touch My Body" spent two weeks at the top, Mariah's 78th and 79th cumulative career weeks at #1, which tied Elvis' long-standing all-time high of 79 weeks at #1, as calculated by Billboard. Mariah is now positioned as the only active recording artist in the 50 years of the Hot 100 (which began in 1958) with the potential to surpass the Beatles' all-time high of 20 #1 hits. The success of E=MC˛ brought total sales of Mariah's albums, singles and videos to more than 200 million worldwide, distancing her even further from the pack as the top-selling female recording artist in history.

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    Charts

    04 United States
    04 South Korea
    14 Canada
    14 Taiwan
    23 Israel
    24 Japan
    30 Hungary
    32 Australia
    41 Italy
    45 Austria
    51 Sweden
    52 Netherlands
    56 Spain
    57 Greece
    77 Germany
    82 France
    85 Belgium (Wallonie)
    101 United Kingdom
    130 Ireland

    Sales

    1,000,000 Worldwide Shipments (IDJ 13/12/2010)
    230,035 US (Soundscan)
    ----------- 55,447 1st Week (#4)
    ----------- 32,986 1nd Week (#12)
    ----------- 35,308 3rd Week (#22)
    ----------- 41,575 4th Week (#28)
    ----------- 64,676 5th Week (#12)
    19,024 Japan (Oricon)
    ----------- 5,772 1st Week (#24)
    ----------- 4,331 2nd Week (#31)
    ----------- 5,081 3rd Week (#32)
    ----------- 3,294 4th Week (#58)
    8,297 UK
    ----------- 2,536 1st Week (#101)
    ----------- 1,172 2nd Week (#DNC)
    ----------- 2,002 3rd Week (#157)
    ----------- 2,587 4th Week (#163)
    7,500 Malaysia (Gold)
    5,000 Brasil (Initial shipment)
    4,925 Australia
    ----------- 1,466 1st Week (#37)
    ----------- 1,425 2nd Week (#47)
    ----------- 2,034 3rd Week (#32)

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    by » 22-09-10, 02:53

    For the record, Billboard just published updated figures from her previous christmas album - "Merry Christmas" sold over 5,000,000 copies according to Soundscan and the album's first single, "All I Want For Christmas Is You" is Mariah's best-selling digital song with over 1,600,000 copies sold.

    As MCIIY will include a new version of AIWFCIY and the track always sells a lot every season, it will be interesting to see how much it will move this december and if Billboard will allow the track to finally re-chart and have a more significant peak on the Hot 100. Also, the album was certified 5x Platinum by RIAA in 2003 when it was around 4.2M through Soundscan so after this season it will probably be eligible for 6x Platinum!

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    by » 22-09-10, 04:34

    I have a REALLY good feeling about this! I am stoked to buy it, almost thinking its possible for a SUBO effect with Xmas on this, Guess we'll have to wait and see, deff can't wait for Oh Santa
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    by » 22-09-10, 06:15

    Honestly, considering her current state on the music scene, I guess we should be happy with Gold but I'm hoping for a Platinum certification - 2x Platinum would be a dream come true, but I really can't see her having a big hit with "Oh Santa" or anything else that would push the album sales that high, even more if she goes hard into the R&B/Hip Hop territory like she's been doing 99% of the time these days

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    by » 22-09-10, 12:35

    Hopefully she'll go on Oprah and all those other talk shows and sing her heart out. Hopefully her older fans will rush out and buy the album. I want her to have a platinum seller with this one so bad.
    Beyonce / Destiny's Child Artists of the Decade.

    115 Million Records Sold
    13 US & UK #1 Singles
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    by » 22-09-10, 14:26

    Quote Originally Posted by AutomaticBR
    Honestly, considering her current state on the music scene, I guess we should be happy with Gold but I'm hoping for a Platinum certification - 2x Platinum would be a dream come true, but I really can't see her having a big hit with "Oh Santa" or anything else that would push the album sales that high, even more if she goes hard into the R&B/Hip Hop territory like she's been doing 99% of the time these days
    Its already been stated this is not a hip hop rnb xmas album. I am excited and I really do think she may sell a ton of copies this christmas, mariah+xmas=exstacy
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    by » 22-09-10, 14:30

    I'll be more than happy if she can get gold cert!

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    by » 22-09-10, 16:50

    I made a sales expectation on the subo album thread, now i do it here too.

    sales expectation/prediction

    US:
    Soundcan: 386,000
    RIAA: Gold

    EU: 300,000
    UK: Gold

    Rest of World: 150,000
    Japan: 80,000

    I bet the BB200 chartrun will look something like this: 1-4-16-24-19-9-33-117-189
    First week sales: 113,000

    I think 50% of this will be right.

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    by » 22-09-10, 17:27

    Quote Originally Posted by stevyy
    I made a sales expectation on the subo album thread, now i do it here too.

    sales expectation/prediction

    US:
    Soundcan: 386,000
    RIAA: Gold

    EU: 300,000
    UK: Gold

    Rest of World: 150,000
    Japan: 80,000

    I bet the BB200 chartrun will look something like this: 1-4-16-24-19-9-33-117-189
    First week sales: 113,000

    I think 50% of this will be right.
    A Christmas album debuting at #1 in the US when it's being released 3 weeks before Thanksgiving? I don't think so. There won't be enough interest in holiday albums yet.

    I thought they were expecting a relatively low first sales week but then sales increasing as the holiday approaches. Then releasing the single to radio right around/after Thanksgiving. That's the usual release pattern, no?

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    by » 22-09-10, 18:11

    IDK, i believe that many fans will treat this like a new studio album and rush to the stores to buy it in the first week. I have a feeling that it will debut quite high but drop severely after that.

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    by » 22-09-10, 20:33

    Quote Originally Posted by stevyy
    I made a sales expectation on the subo album thread, now i do it here too.

    sales expectation/prediction

    US:
    Soundcan: 386,000
    RIAA: Gold

    EU: 300,000
    UK: Gold

    Rest of World: 150,000
    Japan: 80,000

    I bet the BB200 chartrun will look something like this: 1-4-16-24-19-9-33-117-189
    First week sales: 113,000

    I think 50% of this will be right.
    I disagree with this, I think this will sell at least 800k in the US. My real prediction is much higher but ill keep it to myself for now at least till I hear oh santa
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    by » 22-09-10, 20:33

    thanks to PosziMC2

    Mariah Carey’s “Merry Christmas II You ” will be released in Brazil

    Although the country does not have a strong tradition of Christmas carols, Universal Music has decided to launch the title in the country due to overwhelming demand of the singer.

    Mariah’s Merry Christmas II You is scheduled for 09 November, 2010; a week after the North American launch .

    Source: Mariah Connection Brazil

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    by » 22-09-10, 20:42

    I think the album will debut in the Top 10 then fall until it gets closer to Christmas with a peak inside the I'll be happy if this gets certified Gold.

    I want it to go Platinum though.

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    by » 22-09-10, 23:56

    I hope the quality of the album is vintage Mariah, then the sales will speak for itself. The first one is great so hopefully she made this one as fantastic.

    I hope she has Groban-ish success, with the right appearances, the right song and the right performances, this album should do very well.
    Oh I won't ask for much this Christmas, I won't even wish for snow

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    by » 23-09-10, 00:23

    Nick has announced a show in the US by November, so it will surely help MCIIY.

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    by » 23-09-10, 00:36

    This should go platinum.

    Since people will assume this is "better" and more "classic" Mariah album, this album should do well.

    It's platinum or FAIL for this era.
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    by » 23-09-10, 00:39

    Quote Originally Posted by GetBack
    This should go platinum.

    Since people will assume this is "better" and more "classic" Mariah album, this album should do well.

    It's platinum or FAIL for this era.
    you should be aware that there aren't so many artists/albums going platinum anymore. more realistic would be half of what Memoirs did.

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    by » 23-09-10, 01:33

    Quote Originally Posted by stevyy
    Quote Originally Posted by GetBack
    This should go platinum.

    Since people will assume this is "better" and more "classic" Mariah album, this album should do well.

    It's platinum or FAIL for this era.
    you should be aware that there aren't so many artists/albums going platinum anymore. more realistic would be half of what Memoirs did.
    We are all aware but this is mariah we are talking about, putting out a christmas CD during christmas with inflated x mas sales the cover it age appropriate and eye catching I see the flying off the shelves, 300k seems like to to small an estimate
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    by » 23-09-10, 02:03

    Mariah or not, this is a market in decline, even at Christmas. Stevyy has a point in here. I don't think this album will go platinum, but as long as it achieves Gold, I'll be satisfied. Don't forget this album will basically be sold for 9 weeks only. And like only 3 or 4 of those are really important for this album.

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    by » 23-09-10, 02:13

    for now, the best I can imagine for this album is something like this - but of course, everything depends on the promotion she will (or not) do:

    W/E 07/11 #8 - 40,000
    W/E 14/11 #19 - 20,000
    W/E 21/11 #18 - 30,000
    W/E 28/11 #15 - 25,000
    W/E 05/12 #13 - 40,000
    W/E 12/12 #15 - 80,000
    W/E 19/12 #10 - 100,000
    W/E 26/12 #11 - 80,000
    W/E 02/01 #50 - 10,000
    W/E 09/01 #90 - 5,000
    W/E 16/01 OUT

    Total sales ~430,000

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    by » 23-09-10, 03:13

    Quote Originally Posted by AutomaticBR
    for now, the best I can imagine for this album is something like this - but of course, everything depends on the promotion she will (or not) do:

    W/E 07/11 #8 - 40,000 (90-110,000K)
    W/E 14/11 #19 - 20,000
    W/E 21/11 #18 - 30,000 (40,000)
    W/E 28/11 #15 - 25,000 (100,000)
    W/E 05/12 #13 - 40,000 (85,000)
    W/E 12/12 #15 - 80,000 (150,000)
    W/E 19/12 #10 - 100,000 (200,000)
    W/E 26/12 #11 - 80,000 (125,000)
    W/E 02/01 #50 - 10,000
    W/E 09/01 #90 - 5,000
    W/E 16/01 OUT

    Total sales ~430,000
    (around 800k)




    I put my estimation in ( )'s But I also hope for much better I we'll see what Oh Santa is like, Who knows could be another Mariah Christmas Classic
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    by » 23-09-10, 16:59

    Does anyone know how she is revamping AIWFCIY?

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    by » 24-09-10, 00:12

    Quote Originally Posted by AutomaticBR
    MERRY CHRISTMAS II YOU is Mariah Carey's 13th studio album, and follows up her worldwide multi-million-selling Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel (released September 2009)
    wtf
    B. get off my pole!

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    by » 24-09-10, 02:52

    Quote Originally Posted by NoAngel
    Quote Originally Posted by AutomaticBR
    MERRY CHRISTMAS II YOU is Mariah Carey's 13th studio album, and follows up her worldwide multi-million-selling Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel (released September 2009)
    wtf


    Her press releases are always brilliant pieces of fiction.

    Though I can't believe they're still on this nonsense:

    Quote Originally Posted by AutomaticBR
    The success of E=MC˛ brought total sales of Mariah's albums, singles and videos to more than 200 million worldwide, distancing her even further from the pack as the top-selling female recording artist in history.
    LOLZ.

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